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ducttapeflamingo
Posts: 24 - Karma: 10
Im 6"3 inches, 140 lbs. Does it matter whether or not I get a 169cm ski, or a 179 cm ski?
Mar 14 2006 8:35AM
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Matty_C
Posts: 2598 - Karma: 236
what type of ski are you looking to buy?
if its a park ski, 169 is far too short unless you are a total beginner. go for 179 for park.

for all mountain your gonna be best on about 180-185 if your competent

for big mountain you'll need something longer, like i said depending on yr level
Mar 14 2006 8:52AM
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feB
Posts: 42 - Karma: 10
yes, there is personal respect... 169 is shorter than my skis and i am a 5'7" chick....

okey half true, its whatever u r comfortable on, but usually bigger is better... it will look better, and it will work for you. i wouldn't go any smaller than 175 for you personally.
Mar 14 2006 8:55AM
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III
Posts: 2041 - Karma: 22
its not how big it is, its how you use it.
Mar 14 2006 8:59AM
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Davevinc1080
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if your riding park, the bigger the better
Mar 14 2006 9:29AM
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Triple_Strum
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this is a notice to everyone: Do not post or give advice if you don't know what you are talking about! This means you, boloney. I know you are trying to help, but you are incorrect.

First off, holy cow you are a stick - I am jealous :) Anyway, what size you get should depend on your weight. I don't think you need a 179 at your weight, but if you are a good skier you could easily handle it. However, for all mountain purposes you definitely don't need anything close to a 185. The mid 170s would be a perfect range for you. Good luck.
Mar 14 2006 9:41AM
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n-o
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my friend is 63 and 200 pounds and he has 179 fujis and they work great for him dont go short
Mar 14 2006 9:42AM
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Aenigma
Posts: 11256 - Karma: 424
I'm actually going to agree with boloney on this one, it's kind of weird. Unless you're a slutty little whore of a skier, you should not even be considering anything under 180 for any purposes unless you ride pure park(then MAYBE you could get away with 175).
Mar 14 2006 10:33AM
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johanblaze
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holy shit! someone lankier than i!
Mar 14 2006 11:37AM
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ski_cartel
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k at your weight you should look at something like mid 170's but unless your skiing hudge lines going like mach 5 you dont nee anything over 185
Mar 14 2006 11:46AM
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MrPantyDropper
Posts: 5016 - Karma: 65
Personally I'll never go below 180 again (5"7 135lbs), but I really dont do a lot of park either. I think I'd still go 175+ for park though.
Mar 14 2006 11:57AM
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J.D.
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179s are fine.
Mar 14 2006 12:16PM
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B-DOG45
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^werd
Mar 14 2006 12:34PM
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skifiend
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I agree...it's all personnal on which size you want. But if you are an aggressive skier, you may want to go with the 179, but I think the 69 would be good for you too. But since I don't know you, have never seen you ski, and really have nothing to base my conclusions on, I'm going to say demo them.
Mar 14 2006 12:51PM
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Bepo
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dam dude, you sure your 6'3"? lol. im the same hight with 85 extra pounds and ride 182 foils. you might want something smaller than normal cause you dont want a stiff ski
Mar 14 2006 1:08PM
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Matty_C
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firstly, i don't know how much lbs are, we use different measurements, so i didn't know how light 140 is.

secondly i did specifically say DEPENDING ON YOUR ABILITY- how can you possibly know the perfect range for him if you've never seen him ski??

and 6'3 aggressive all mtn skier would do nicely on say and arv 185.
shhhh....
Mar 14 2006 1:18PM
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1990
Posts: 1787 - Karma: 52
size doesnt matter.its all about the technique!













oh we are talking about ski size sorry..
Mar 14 2006 2:55PM
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Triple_Strum
Posts: 6384 - Karma: 953
I think you are missing the point on the big mountain bit. If you have a wider platform, you don't need a super long ski. And 140 lbs is about 64 kg (off the top of my head). I weigh 200 lbs and ski a 185 ARV. If he weighs so little he has no need for anything longer than a 175. Now, if you said it was a matter of style I would have let you slide, but you are arguing on need and performace.

However, I do agree that ability offsets weight. However, we are talking about the ideal ski for him
Mar 14 2006 3:06PM
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campbell12
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i'd say go long. i weigh 150 and i ski 179 PE's. they're awesome all mountain. also what/where are you skiing? and how aggressive are you? i ski pretty aggressively and at times my 179s can feel short. but then again, i'm on the ice coast. whatever you feel you can handle.
Mar 14 2006 3:09PM
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e.will
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yea i rock the 169, and you have a foot on me.....
Mar 14 2006 3:12PM
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Aseets
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No it's not they size of the wave, it's the motion in the ocean.
Mar 14 2006 3:20PM
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Aenigma
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HAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh, I had to let that one out. You haven't skied big mountain before, have you?
Mar 14 2006 5:32PM
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bp.lando
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i have 180 park skis and im shorther than you bro
Mar 14 2006 5:55PM
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snocompton
Posts: 2014 - Karma: 268
Ive always wondered why this was true. I thought that the smaller the ski, the more mobilatly your gonna have on it.
Mar 14 2006 6:01PM
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Anathema
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when in doubt, go longer
Mar 14 2006 6:03PM
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Triple_Strum
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Actually I have. The question is: you haven't thought about the reasons why skis are made certain ways, have you? You think Pollard could go from a 186 to a 172 ski if they weren't fatter. You sir, have been tricked just like a lot of skiers into thinking you need a longer ski. It is surface area, not length. If they are beefier, you don't need length. Where is someone else who works in a shop to verify. Sheesh...
Mar 14 2006 6:12PM
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Aenigma
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I was just thinking of the reason you buy a big mountain ski(stability). You want a wider waist so they aren't squirrely, and you want them longer to reduce chatter. If you buy a shorter ski because you think "Oh, it has more surface area, I don't need a longer ski" then you're kind of screwing yourself over. To actually ski big terrain you need a wider, longer, stiffer ski.
Mar 14 2006 6:14PM
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Triple_Strum
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lots of big mountain skis are pretty soft. You want float in a big mountain ski. Longer isn't always better is all I am saying. Generally, yes a longer ski will provide more float, however, this kid doesn't need something bigger than a 179 SV or 175 ARV because he is so light. I was mostly referencing the guy who previously said he needed something 185 or bigger.
Mar 14 2006 6:19PM
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Aenigma
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Yeah, he really doesn't need anything bigger than 185 unless he's going REALLY big.
Mar 14 2006 6:21PM
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BigJew
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Definately get the 179. I'm only 5'11 but weigh the same as you and I ride a 179 fuja and a 175 Crichton and I find the 175's are as short as I'd go.
Mar 14 2006 7:25PM
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ducttapeflamingo
Posts: 24 - Karma: 10
sorry, im just retarted, i wrote this thing at like 730 this morning after getting up really early im only 6" 1 inch. I dont know what I was thinking.
Mar 14 2006 8:35PM
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awsomecoolguy
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holy shit your skinny eat a sandwitch
Mar 14 2006 9:07PM
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jdel11
Posts: 91 - Karma: 10
Ok This is problem a really dumb question but why would you want bigger skis for park?
I thought that for rails and medium to large kickers you would want smaller skis for easier spins and getting on rails easier. Could some one kind of explain? I am new to skiing and working on 3s and crap like that lol anyways thanks for the help.
Mar 14 2006 10:32PM
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jdel11
Posts: 91 - Karma: 10
^ Sorry for the double question but no one really answered it from earlier posts on this thread.
Mar 14 2006 10:34PM
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hemlockjibber8
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big mountain ski soft?? only if you are skiing super light untouched pow.

i think you are getting big mountain and all mountain confused. a longer ski will cruise over top of any crud bums or inconsistencies in the snow. it does not matter how wide your ski is (to an extent), you need length to stop you from front flipping when you straightline a chute and hit a death cookie.

or when you hit a cliff and dont land perfectly centered. if you are forward at all a short ski will give out in front of you. a long nose will stop you from going over forwards and pull you ass out of any circumstances.

what skis have you skied on? where have you skied?

i understand what you are saying with surface area and i believe it will make you float on untouched perfect pow but you need length.

and with weight and lenght i get you as well, however that doesnt help you with sketch snow, drops, skier ability or pretty much anyhting. i know you are jsut going from a more scientific lab type experiment but when your actually skiing, there are way to many factors to consider and risk your life on with a short wide ski.

big mountain skiers ski 195 2x4s for a reason, no matter what size they are
Mar 15 2006 12:51AM
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EClay46
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think of walking a tight rope. if u have ur arms on ur sides it is harder to balance, with your arms out they help u balance better. think of the longer skis like that more balance on rails but, the main reason is longer skis look better, a longer ski is not the best idea for a beginner who is working on spins, if a long ski is mounted true center it wont mess up spinning as much but still will be harder than a shorter center mount ski, a longer ski will also be more stable when u are trying to get ur speed to hit a jump
Mar 15 2006 1:45AM
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Mex_LineJib^a
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WORD, mostly surface area is the key and stiffness could be a factor too.
Mar 15 2006 2:04AM
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ducttapeflamingo
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haha, crud bums.
Mar 15 2006 5:08PM
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grambo
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Wrong, weight isn't the only factor. Especially when you are 6'3, imagine the fore/aft on a 169 at that height, it would be useless all mountain. Generally you want a ski coming up to the top of your head unless you you are buying a slalom race ski or some lame all mountain carver thing to do SL turns on.

For all mountain don't even think under 179 at your size. Centre mounting a park ski? Going to want 182-185 range (e.g. 181 AR5, 185 Karma).
Mar 15 2006 5:27PM
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NFE
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I'm 6'3 and 150lbs i ride 182 tm. I'd never go bigger then 185(unless you charge huge lines) and id never go any smaller then 175.
Hope thats some help
Mar 15 2006 6:38PM
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MrPantyDropper
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Yeah dude..not to attack you or anything,but what Big Mountain skis have you been on?Or what Big Mountain terrain have you skied on?Please inform me on these soft "Big Mountain" skis that work so well on "Big Mountain" terrain. And if he was charging big mountain lines 185 or bigger would be ideal.
Mar 15 2006 7:22PM
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hemlockjibber8
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the only soft big mountain ski i know is the pistol/vicious. and seth rides that with the salomon plate on it to make it stffer. he told me he likes it soft because it floats and he thinks its stupid that people try to charge when its not buttery soft powpow. i love seth but im sorry, we all dont get to heli ski in alaska all the time.
Mar 17 2006 11:41PM
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mad_540_trix
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i'm 6'1" and about 155lbs, and i love my 175 ARVs. in fact, i was quite happy with the length of my skis until i tried 185 centermounted guns. now i find myself wishing that i had 185 ARVs mounted close to center (but not quite center because of those powpow days). my best advice is to go for 185 guns or ARVs, or 179 SVs (this is my #1 recommendation for you because you're pretty light) and get them mounted pretty close to center. remember, centermounted skis feel much shorter, but the good news is you'll have a lot more tail, so if you land further back than you should then the extra tail will save you, and you'll still have plenty of ski in front of you because you bought a longer ski.
Mar 17 2006 11:53PM
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Aclique_Clothing
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ya i am 6 foot and i have line invaders 178 and the longer ur ski the more stable u feel.
Mar 18 2006 11:42AM
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lyndon
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its all preference,a dn where u mount them. i am 5 foot 1, and i ride a 160
Mar 18 2006 4:49PM
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Alex.e
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I'm 5'9and 152lbs.. how long skis should I get???
Mar 18 2006 5:40PM
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