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you guys are right horshoe is my home mountain and i use to think it was good when i was a newb first year until i went anywhere else. However horshoe for the size is decent and all i got and the same for other skiers. the advanced park starts with a strait rail into a c-box then choice between a down 3 bared rail or down flat down then 2 jumps a 30 and 45 but mostley borders at horshoe and not a good skier atmosphere