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Bush Lies Again (about Katrina)
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it is inevitable that Bush will fuck up
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Has that been publicized in the States the same way as it has here in England?
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wow. fuck up #969897889786t9854934 and counting
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that was on the daily show
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A large portion of the population is extremely critical of the government now, so yes. There is a lot of talk of New Orleans being no different today than it was the day after the storm and it is the governments fault for sure.
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I want to see some NS conservatives defend him about this.
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i want to see this slew of retarded political threads stop. it was so nice and quiet for so long... all of a suddent its inescapable... yikes.
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so some fatass spooks had to sit on the roof for a few days, black in you America do not know how good they have it, sirs
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Melvs you are a leftwing nutjob, for the last 5 years on NS every little mistake bush does you make a thread about it. Give it a break, we know you hate Bush
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a lot of the recent coverage has been on the glorious spirit of the New Orleans culture in continuing mardi gras, you do have to usually dig a bit deeper to find stuff like that, but it is easily accessable to anyone who forms their opinions on more then a 3 minute blurb on the evening local news.
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EVERYONE knew the levees werent big enough. EVERYONE in polictics surrounding that event lied.
Why dont you make a thread about how their democractic run govt in NO fucked up. The blame is equal on EVERYONE involved.
Funny enough the only people that did a good job at preparing are the people at WalMart- once again proving that private enterprise is much better at being efficient and well run that govt. It would have been much worse if Wal Mart had not given so many people supplies.
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1. I didn't even read the article link he posted.
2. Every President has had plenty of so-called 'fuck-ups'
3. There are more than enough other people who deserve blame for the Katrina issues other than the Pres, but left-wing special people seem to like linking everything they can to him.
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Oh so it's the goverment's fault that there was one of the biggest hurricanes in history and it hit a city lying below sealevel and a quarter of the population in that city decided to say fuck off to the government and not evacuate. New Orleans was a ticking time bomb that would inevitably would one day be flooded by a massive hurricane. It just happened to be while Bush was president.
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it's not his fault that the hurricane hit, it's his fault the government didn't respond anywhere close to adequately. he's saying the condition hasn't changed, about six months later. that's the government's fault, no matter what anyone says.
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they don't let the media here talk like that, and it's a load of bullshit. This disaster was just allowed to happen to make bush look like he cared afterwards. the news here won't play any of this out as for real at all. The "free media" is just a lie. They talked about it on a latenight show because that stuff isn't taken as seriousley
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Bush came out publicly and said everything was his fault, so whats the point of blaming him if he already took the fall? Did you just forget or do you have so much fun blasting someone that arguably has one of the hardest jobs in the US.
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The people of New Orleans chose to ignore the obvious risk that living their posed but when things went to shit they were all looking to the goverment to bail them out.
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You are a FUCKING retard.
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Perhaps the governor of LA could have done something?? Perhaps the lazy fucks who sat there waiting for the gov't to bail them out should have left on time??
So many posts here are so FUCKING stupid it makes me sick.
How can you possibly pin all the blame of a NATURAL disaster on one person?!
Not to mention, he's the leader of the free world, so it's not like he didn't have other pressing matters happening at the same time. That's why there are thousands of government officials...to ASSIST in matters such as these.
Fucking ignorant kids.
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haha so true. Give it a rest. Sure more could have been done on his part but placing the blame solely on one person is a bad idea
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did you not here him say in the video conference to tell all officials that they are adequatley prepared just after they said that nobody thought the dykes would hold? The person who could have evac'd that city was G.W. And all the poor people without cars? not everybody drives in the city man, how were they supposed to bail, out run 100 plus mile and hour winds, carrying all their stuff? Ok yeah sure. I'm not one to just jump out on politics but bush's quote was about helping the people during and after the storm, not before. If he moved everybody out before, it wouldn't have been as big of a story.
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Ok, moron, first of all, there were evacuation measures being taken long before the storm came. Many people just sat on the dumb asses and then blamed Bush when they got stranded...it's their own fault. People without cars? Well, they could have jumped on with some of the evac crews.
Second, I didn't even watch the video conference as I mentioned above.
"The person who could have evac'd that city was G.W." This statement is plain stupid. Of course he could have, but so could have many other people if they used their fucking brains and worked together. You think GW could have just snapped his fingers and made the whole situation run smoothly? Get real dude.
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You should join them.
My point is, you guys are basically saying the Pres is the ONLY person who has the power to provide any assistance to the situation. He's not.
There are thousands of others who could have stepped in made something happen, but did they do anything...NO.
To blame loss of life and everything on one person, namely the President, is outright silly.
People like you just want someone to blame and he's the obvious target.
Get a clue.
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you know, when he is in complete control of the country he can totally organize a mass evac much faster, since he is in charge of the entire country. second of all calling me a moron is a fallacy, when arguing you're never suppose to just flat out call the other person dumb, but you might not be that well educated. And tell me that you would just let 30 homeless people jump in your car with you. you wouldn't. And the fact that you didn't even watch the vid just shows you are shooting from the hip. nice try man.
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Of course he can start the ball rolling, but what you fail to understand is that there are thousands of people involved.
I'm not saying that Bush shouldn't shoulder a portion/fraction of the blame, but certainly not ALL of it.
Not well educated? Well, think what you want.
What do 30 homeless people in my car have anything to do with this?? If you want to give them rides around town, have at it brother.
And the reason I didn't watch the vid is because I can tell what you are going to say without even watching it...it's just another silly clip attempting to trash GW.
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Why do you think the president is dumb as a bag of hammers?
So interal people can do there thing and all the blame goes on bus for being and idiot.
I am not a fan of that dumbass
But it is the US Government, not Bush, that matters
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everyone knew about new orleans being in danger, for fucks sake it was built below sea level! don't act so suprised... that's like, getting upset because bush knows that some people are allergic to bee stings, but he doesn't demand all bees be shot.
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and why are you so afraid to see something that bashes on bush? are you afraid of having questions? I mean, is it unpatriotic to wonder what the whole story is? I dunno, I thought that was my job, the whole asking questions bit.
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Hahaha
Asking questions is normal. I don't think it really has shit to do with being patriotic.
I'm not 'afraid' to see anything bash Bush. I simply feel the need to stand up for situations in which the blame is unfairly distributed.
You aren't asking the right questions. All you are doing is looking for ways to place blame and make him look bad.
The questions you should be asking are:
Who else didn't do their jobs?
How could we better distribute authority next time so that the sole responsibility of saving lives doesn't fall on one indivudual?
Why didn't all the people take it upon themselves to get out of town when instructed?
etc
The questions you are asking do nothing but create more drama and distrust.
We need to ask questions that will help build our country and make it stronger, not more angry and separated.
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you know, I haven't been all that clear, it wasn't just bush's fault, it was all those people telling him that it would fail, and not really standing up for it, but according to history, George doesn't want to hear negative news. All those people should have been on his ass about it, but they weren't.i dunno, all in all it is the gov't that is lazy, and it's georges fault for not caring, but the point is, it's just wrong that nobody did everything they could have.
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i agree bush fucked up and is a bad president. i just wanted to point out that you contradicted yourself in what you said.
"second of all calling me a moron is a fallacy, when arguing you're never suppose to just flat out call the other person dumb, but you might not be that well educated."
i thought it was funny that you called him dumb right after you said you're not supposed to
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haha you caught that, thank you. that was kinda the point there, I was wondering if he would catch that.
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Haha yes. You are so right on. Everyone had known for years that New Orleans would fall victim to this type of disaster everntually. The levees couldn't have been made stronger or better enough to prevent the water from getting into the city, as many people are suggesting, especially at a few days notice. The NATURAL disaster couldn't have been prevented.
Also people are saying that all of these people died as a direct result of the government's shortcomings. This obviously doesn't stand up. Thousands of people refused to leave the city. So how is the goverment then responsible for these people's choice not ot leave the city, ultimately causing their death.
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so what, its over now. the only thing we can do is help those we can, and help make sure it doesnt happen again.
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Which one is it exactly? Can't seem to find it (title).
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This I pretty much agree with.
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cool, yeah, the animosity wasn't much needed, but it's def. fun to get a hair riled up here and there.
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I did catch that, but it was beside the point and wasn't worth mentioning.
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Some interesting point raised there.
However, I disagree with his statement that the GW government will be summed up by the goings-on in New Orleans.
He could also lay off the metaphors and semantics discussions.
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^he's just pretending that he caught it
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I retract any personal comments toward you.
I think we've both made our points and found a middle ground, which I appreciate as it is rare around here.
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yeah, for sure, ns is def. a hard place to push a point, but it's stuff like this thread that make it worth-while
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