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The dreadful topic.. backflips
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aight ... i can do a backlfip without skies on the street and that lil matrix thing too. But I am still worried about trying this shit on a park jump. Is there any sortta rule of thumb besides just huckin it and balls. Cuz I haven been downloading and comparing pretty much eveyr video i can find (since try and error is like 6 hours removed from santa barbara im focused on the theory right now so dont tell me i should just go do it cuz i would love to believe me) and think i got the hang of it now . I have kinda stood one this winter in germany but the jump was everything but a kicker and I had to fucking huck so hard it was nar... well just looking for some imput
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toss that in the search engine I've responded to about 5 of these this week.
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i have read soma those threads but i wanted a little conversation u know so i can kinda figure out more specific details.
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Backflips are simple once you get the feel for them, they are just really scary at first. Now that you got your first few out of the way you need to stop and completely relax before you toss one. When you are scared you just sling em and you cant spot shit.
1.Come up to the jump with enough speed to hit transition (that way if you totally spooch it you might not get hurt)
2. Have your arms down by your side you'll be needing them in a minute. Try to get "stacked as possible" arms out in front, legs slightly bent, head looking striaght ahead.
3. Now your riding up the lip, pop very lightly and lean back, as you are doing this raise your arms up it really helps not to stall the rotation when you are first learning them.
When you are airborne start looking back as far as you can, hopefully at this point you can see where you are in the air. If you arn't coming around fast enough grab your ankles and pull them around or just tuck up your knees you'll start rotating a lot faster. If you think you are going to overrotate, frog your legs (point your knees at each other and flex your abs, it slows it down a lot but don't stop spotting)
Once you stomp a couple they will start feeling a lot smoother and more natural, I remeber when I first started tossing em I couldn't spot anything or know what was going on in the air so I just tried to time everything (that sucks). Now that I'm completely comfortable in the air I can see the ground the whole time and everything is slowed down (maybe the whole going bigger thing is helping with that)
Thats about it, you can't teach someone how to do them, you can give pointers but ultimately they need to be relaxed and willing to take a few hits in the process.
I dug that up from the last one I responded to. Don't throw them unless you are confident you can get it around. It's important to toss it lightly off the jump and use your body to set the rotation, most people who first start tossing them whip it really hard and try to slow it down and overrotate, you'd be suprised how little you have to pop off a steep lip on a big jump for it to come around.
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yeah i did my first back of a jump that had as much lip as a grandma witout denture if you know what i mean. It was like a flat "kicker we built" I fucking threw all my weight back and just made it however do you knwo how most people on their first try to this thing where there legs come up and there body kinda folds like a V and then the uppertorso extends afterwards. So its kinda like a two grad motion first legs come up and fold to the torso ... motion stalls and then continues to fold out the upper torso. And reaslistically how painful is an overrotation and really narly one ?
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woah that just reinforced how much i WONT be attempting a backflip.
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Well it depends on the steepness and softness of your landing, whenever I overrotate into pow it feels like it's gonna rip my shoulders out of socket and overotating in the park would be really bad news. I just started tossing them in the park this year and I've only crashed one. The snow was heating up and the inrun got slower so I timed it perfectly but my tips grabbed the knuckle on my way past it and it wasn't very pretty. It's not a trick you throw unless you are 100% confident you will come relatively close to landing it, it's just not worth it. I remeber my first attempt was in a park a few springs back, I tossed it off a hipjump underotated and landed on my face, it hurt/scared me so much I didn't have the confidence to try them again untill last spring(I still sucked at em).
But this summer I started tossing them off the highdive and I've been landing them ever since. It's a cool trick to learn, no other trick feels as weird/fun/smooth on a huge jump as backies.
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Backflips are the coolest trick in skiing. They are a classic, and a must in everybody's bag of tricks. If there is one trick that SCREAMS SKIING, it is the backflip.
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Just pull a Rory Bushfield and go double
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^ and this guy is a man who knows his backflips!
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ive only attempted and completed one and im satisfied.
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watch the top rated video!!!!!!! all backies
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E-a-S-y
you can take my advice because I'm not exactly pro, but can land backflips in the backcountry every time :)
find a small windlip or natural steep bump (a bump will do) when its a pow day. Ski up to it smooth (do some stretching beforehand, doing backflip motions, visualising it first, so you actually do it) (preferably a flat landing) as you tak off streatch back, leave your skis, you can bring them round later. dont huck it, take off slow then, half way around you should see the landing, and can pull your skis round depending on how fast you over- or under- rotated the jump.
land it, and do it again. If you do the first half slow, then you can control when you come round, seth morrison does it all the time hucking cliffs, so he lands right.
good luck.
ps i cant do them in the park. cant be fucked really, my nerves dont need it.
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they are easier in the park (as is every trick) it's the same jump over and over, do it once and you got it dialed. It's a mental thing for most people since the park is icy but it's easier. Nice groomed inrun, nice manicured lip, nice smooth landing, you'll never find that in the BC. you are usually dodging shit on the inrun jumping over trees and rocks and dodging shit on the landing
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of course your nervous...youll be going pretty fast and its gonna throw u up there quite a ways...good luck
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throw em in the pipe first and move from there
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