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High end bindings, an explanation and review.
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Although the average skier doesn't really need these I think the information should be a little more available. All companies make a "race stock" or high end binding. They are typically made with more metal than consumer bindings, therefore they are heavier but more durable. They come with a higher din range going up to 15-20. They're usually designed to be mounted onto race plates so they don't come with lifters (good for jibbing). The main reason you will see pros and other rippers on them is the durability issue. I've destroyed every normal binding I've skied the park on. Marker frees, look/rossi pivots and new px/axial2, and salomon s914's, they crumbled before my sickness. Had to step up to the race stocks.
Here's a quick review on the race stocks that i've used:
Look P15/P18 rossi fks155/185.
Pros: stong and durable, pivot heel
cons: no multi directional toe release like on their consumer bindings. inconsistent heel release value, difficult forward pressure adjustment, brakes can't be swapped.
I skied these bindings on a lot of different skis and had some scary moments when I really wished I had that upward toe release. The screw pattern in the heel is very narrow so they can't be ripped out pretty easily if you crank your heel din up high (which I don't reccomend). The brakes can catch and get bent down on a switch landing and you just have to bend em back which isn't a super big deal until you do it a bunch of times and the brake just snaps off.
rossi fks120
A junior race binding, it has the same heel as the other fks's but has the multi direcional releasing toe. A great binding for the lighter guys that still go huge.
Tyrolia mojo20 freeflex+17
The mojo20 is like a freeride race stock, the heel has more metal than the 15 and is therefore stronger and heavier but you can't ride your din low enough for the binding to really be useful for jibbing. The freeflex+17 is a really sweetass binding but the freeflex system gives it a lot of extra weight. So if you're going to go with tyrolia, I recomend just using the Mojo15.
Salomon S916
My favorite so far. Five screws attach the all metal heel to your skis, which means no rip outs. The toe piece is all metal as well and is still adjustable to your boot toe like the consumer versions. I haven't ridden this binding for long enough to see if the adjustments will come loose overtime. Lighter riders beware, the din only goes down to 9.
4frnt deadbolt816
I have yet to ski these but they seem to be super burly.
Marker has some offerings, but I hate marker and don't know crap about their race stocks. I don't really know crap about atomic either so I won't list them. Fischer bindings are made by tyrolia, I haven't played with them myself but I think they make a 17 din version of the mojo 15, It's probably a solid binding.
Most shops don't carry these bindings in stock but they can be special ordered. Just be prepared to pay around $300. Seems like a lot, but for a binding that will outlast your skis it's not bad.
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you are outside your god damn mind, I'm also 180 pounds and I go huge, but I recognize that blowing my knee would pretty much ruin my world. I also usually stomp my shit so It's not a big deal
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I got the p18's on my Laroses (Which I am Selling $$) and I have the FKS 185s on my STLs... i have to say, they are secure as fuck. If you pop out alot on ur sw landings and the dins on ur skis dont match ur size, go with em. As for the toe piece... kind of a pain in the leg... literally. If you over shoot something u have a better chance of getting back up if you land backwards, cuz then you'll click out. i overshot a 45 and slapped back, nnot clicking out, and my legs were fucked for about 3 days. Still feeling it when i buttered the following weekend. The other draw back is hicking. When you click out to hick the heel piece usually pops back up, and you have to click it down, tehn when u drop ur skis, they click up again. About the brakes, they are easy as fuck to bend. Go to the teton gravity forums. Basic tutorial somewhere, that even a burnout liek me can follow.
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^^i could be nuts. however, last weekend, i double ejected forwards overshooting a 50 foot gap. took it all the way to the knuckle at the bottom, (the speed of the snow had changed during my lift ride from the last hit, ended up being like 65/70. snapped my ski, double ejected. as long as i can come out of them im fine with it
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I wish my skis ejected... prolly cuz i ride STLs and the flex plus the toe piece equate disaster on the legs.
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just bringin this back cause somebody asked
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This is my favorite thing about Look and Rossi Race stock bindings. I've broken more brakes than I can remember on Scratch bindings, and at $10 a pop (thats the shop cost... cheap as they get), that gets expensive to replace every week or so. I just recently switched to some really old school look race stock heel peices along with my old scratch 100 toe-peices(totally ghetto set up, but works great), and Ive taken some prety brutal falls on some big jumps (Brecks big line) and have bent the shit out of my brakes a few times. I just bend my brake right back to its normal position right there on the run and ski away. I have yet to break, or even see anyone else break the brake while bnding it back. Just my two cents, I LOVE the bombproof brake on rossi race stocks.
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^ Sorry, I was trying to quote TEEFA's original post about his major CON of the look/rossi race stocks. He says he doesnt like how the brake is integrated into the heelpiece.
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Marker is gay, and I have been anti for years. However this season i got two free pairs of comp free 14, they actually are pretty sweet, great hold for park and bc while being light as hell. Otherwise s916 or s920 from solly is best. Anyone wanna tell me what may happen to these markers soon, cause so far so good.
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anyone lookin for a pair of brand new rossi fks185s they are the all black ones and are sick I just dont need such a baller binding... I though I would post it here since you are all the people that ride them
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did you just bring this thread back for that?
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Never had problems with 912 od PX12s, though I weigh 120
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It is the 05/06 P18 - Rossi185 binding they introduced it as the standard when they changed from the ZR18.
I've skied the ZR18 for a few years, the P18's predecessor cause it is light as anything! Also it means I'm not wracking my dins to the max on a binding so i know the spring isn't goin g to lock and the binding is going to stay on whatever - that was annoying.
I want a combination of ZR18 heal piece and the P18 toe piece.
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JJ
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so does the 06/07 p18/fks185 and p15/fks155 have a multiderctional releasing toepiece?
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no they don't, they strictly go side to side
I don't know where that guy is getting his info from
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