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Just wanted to give a heads up. Booting up skin tracks is the most irresponsible, thing you could do in the backcountry. We all bust our ass to put good skin tracks in all over the Wasatch for others to enjoy. I see too many people booting all over them and wrecking them. Use the pole marks to create a boot pack. Not trying to be a dick, just trying to educate and communicate. Hope the season's going well for all and hope everyone is sending it.
settle down gotoma and listen to someone who has been skiing and mountaineering for a LONG time.
Setting your own bootpack is just fine, go for it! It is tough and a wate of energy but it gets the job done in certain conditions, mainly late spring frozen snow. I would never consider bootpcking in deep powder, your the man if you do...
If someone on skins follows your track, they would not do any damage to your foot holes, in fact they would further compress the snow and make it better, wider and easier to hike again. Their skins would span the boot holes leaving your steps in the snow...for the skinner it would be easier to make their own path, as a bootpack usually follows the fallline more directly than any skinner could.
Conversly, when you bootpack on a previously skinned track only, you are ruining their work and likely using the same effort it would take to make your own path.
no no no we aren't. ski touring/mountenering/rondonee (sp?) whatever you call it is big in europe. difference is most people do it kind of seperate. ie we go of on 4 days tours around the mountains. more people in the us use it to ski lines around the hills near to resort areas. this is a pretty big generalisation though. everyones different.
guys that wanna hit big jumps in the bc or drop massive cliffs are always gonna walk it so they can use alpine bindings/boots.
oh yeah and you need special bindings or an alpine bindings plate (v.heavy) touring boots help and also for ultra light weirght there are a range of skis. atherwise any old lightish freeride ski is good.
I'm trying to be patient with you, but I don't know if I can keep it together after this post. OK, if your sessioning a booter then of course you would boot. Chads and Pyramid are right behind my house. There is a groomer that goes pretty much right to it that Alta uses for Cat skiing. Or you have the option to walk up the Grizzly Gulch. I film quite a bit in Jackson and yes, if your skiing Granite, No Name, Cody (Skied Central the other day), and 4 Pines then it's just as easy to boot cause most of the approach is taken care of by the tram. But...if your skiing in Teton Park, Teton Pass, Snake River Canyon, and the Wind River range then you skin or snowmobile in. If not, good fuckin luck buddy hitting anything that doesn't get skied a million times a year.
And as for the gear...I use Salomon Falcon boots, Vist bindings, and Alpine Trekkers. You don't have to go out and buy new boots and new bindings. Pick up a set of trekkers for $75.00 and some skins for $100-$150. I do have Fritchie Freerides for the big 5 hour tours we do once a week, and I drop 70+ on them with total confidence.
I'm over arguing with you about this subject. Notice pretty much everyone is agreeing with me. We're not telling you to stay home or at the hill. All we're asking is use the pole marks instead of the proper skin for your bootpack. It's the same thing and people won't get on your shit so much. Can you respect my request or do still want me to go to hell, cause my buddy called me from there and he said it's snowing there I'm gonna ski that shit switch.
you fools would hate mammoth, we have no respect, i skin and if the boot pack is bothering me i move over a foot, "fuck that was a hard horizontal step"
i don'tthin your like a total asshole dude, I am just saying, that it goes both ways.and I like hjow I do things, its hard but I honestly don't mind it. And Teton Pass like Glory Bowl is like 95% bootpack.I have never seen another skinner. But yeah 70 footers is big, I just know I keep breaking my alpine bindings on stuff and mebbe I just suck I dunno.
Well u mean people who skin for fun and stay in trakcs and dont go in the backcountry u mean? I've never seen freestyle skiers with skins climbing a mountain... But if I want to skin with my normal ski's would that be possible with only that nylon shit under it?