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Fear and progression

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triebby
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i was just wondering what everyone does to overcome their fear of trying new stuff. im a good skier but i ski at a crappy mountain and its hard to get better cus of poor features, setups, etc. lately ive been having a lot of trouble with pushing myself and improving and im just wondering how everyone goes about getting in the mindset to try new stuff, mainly off axis and inverted tricks.
Feb 24 2006 9:56AM
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AndrewZ
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i usually listen to music and the when it feels good just go for it, i used to be way more up for trying things then i am now but i just try to calm down, pump up, and go
Feb 24 2006 9:58AM
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oakjewlery
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don't even think about it
like at alll
shut everything down and just do it
Feb 24 2006 10:00AM
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SnowMedic
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music, get pumped, or go to summer camp in whistler, you will learn how to progress quick( go to momentum)
Feb 24 2006 10:02AM
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theBOSS.
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Just be confident in everything. Have no doubt. Assure yourself that you are going to stomp whatever you do. Once you are comfortable with yourself and your abilities you will be fine.

Take this attitude to everything you do. Afraid to jump that 50 foot cliff into water? Force yourself to. Scared of throwing that backflip off the trampoline? Don't even think about it. You would be suprised what you are capable of doing successfully if you just eliminate any fear and go with it.

Usually people get hurt because they have some doubt in themselves and pussy out at the last second or don't fully commit to something. It's ironic that when you are afraid of getting hurt you actually end up hurting yourself a lot worse.
Feb 24 2006 10:35AM
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*rkp*
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just say fuck it
Feb 24 2006 10:39AM
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AKoblitz
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its all about riding with other ppl that are good, and are pushing themselves, then you all feed of one another
Feb 24 2006 11:16AM
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watchmefall15
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all the fear is prior, like when u are dropping in. once ur in the air its no big deal.
Feb 24 2006 11:24AM
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=nick=
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u just gotta think about how good you will feel once u nail it, and think that the only way to nail it is to try
Feb 24 2006 11:47AM
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Holte
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Seriously. Don't think about it. The more you think about it, the worse of an idea it will seem and the more freaked out you'll get.
Feb 24 2006 11:51AM
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Liam.
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thats what i said when i tried my first ever c box and i landed face first with my skis still tangled on the box...now im so cautious it sucks. but tonight im going all out cuz i aint affraid anymore cuz i survived...thats progression in itself right there i think...
Feb 24 2006 11:52AM
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triebby
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thanks for the help
Feb 24 2006 1:24PM
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JockinJLoads
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yeah dude, you are capable of more than you think
Feb 24 2006 2:06PM
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stylishskier
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lots of the time when people go and say "oh screw it" and try something, they usually just randomly throw their bodies at the feature or air... sounds like you went at it but didnt actually committ. this reckless abandon will get you hurt just as often as not committing. visualize and then attack, I am not a fan of just hucking and hoping for the best
Feb 24 2006 2:10PM
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SaraJ
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You have to stay way relaxed about stuff when you are hitting bigger jumps or trying inverted stuff. Most people will see themselves about to either overrotate or underrotate and they get all tense which actually makes you more likely to get hurt and less likely to ride it out.

As far as just going for it, for the most part it's right. You definitely want to visulaize what you are about to do, especially on jumps but if you think about it too much you are just going to psyche yourself out and probably screw up. On rails, if you think you are going to fall, then you'll probably fall. Go for it. If you do fall, figure out what you did wrong and do it right.
Feb 24 2006 2:36PM
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Anathema
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gotta do builders. don't go out and just huck yourself around (that's how i fractured my neck). throw 1s til you're confident, then 3s, the try corking it out a bit, then go for 5s, etc etc. it just takes practice.
Feb 24 2006 2:43PM
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lukew06
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just chil. clip your skis of and visulize what your doing. and have someone that can do the trick with you. so when your visulizing and practising it on the floor they can reasure you and tell you wots right and whats wrong. better to learn on the floor and get it right in the air. than lern in the air and end up on the floor. but be sure your commited. You could have it perfect on the floor but if your not commited it will fall to pices and you will get hurt.
Feb 24 2006 2:50PM
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Liam.
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aight...thanks for the advice
Feb 24 2006 2:51PM
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Eazy_Eags
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listen to slayer, that will get you over your fear. but seriously, be like "im gonna fuckin slay this rail" or like "im not gonna let this piece of metal fucking intimidate me" you have to be confident
Feb 24 2006 2:54PM
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lineskier582
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yeah you cant be scared but you still have to be catious, i tried throwin dspins earlier this year and didnt really know what i was doing, landed on my head basically
Feb 24 2006 2:55PM
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Daver_BC
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this guy is right. small progression steps. less scary and more productive in the end.

if you french fry when your supposed to pizza, your going to have a bad time.
Feb 23 2009 1:00AM
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Alex_G
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if you know how to do the trick and know that fear is the only thing holding you back then go for it but if you don't know how to do the trick yet then dont give er.
Feb 23 2009 1:07AM
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thejackal1177
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Just know you are doing the trick because you want to conquer your own fears and not because someone is going "do it.' Then you need to go into the kicker with the attitude "im giving this my 100% effort but taking every precaution i know to not get hurt so i can try it again if i fail."
Feb 23 2009 1:29AM
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SEABURN
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and you develop a better style when you learn this way. huckngo tends to make you look all goofy
Feb 23 2009 1:42AM
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mackinnon
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convince yourself/come to the realization that there's nothing to be afraid of, or that you're not even actually afraid....or make my friends do it first hahah
Feb 23 2009 1:44AM
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katrina
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oh sick your bennetts friend! no bitchassness! haha im so bitchass
Feb 23 2009 1:51AM
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Balto
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if the conditions are right, and the music is good, and im in my groove, im down for anything. if any of those are missing, ill always think about it to much
Feb 23 2009 2:18AM
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Archbold
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I get a song with a kinda fast beat, turn it up, tell myself that I only have one life to live and this is what I love doing, and that what I'm about to do wont kill me so what do I have to lose, then drop.
Also, I try not to over-think what I'm about to do as I drop in, and as I approach the lip I countdown from 3, 2, 1 so that my mind is on something else. Hope that helps, sorry that was kinda a shit first post.
Feb 23 2009 4:02AM
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RudyGarmisch
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Why did you raise this from the dead?
Feb 23 2009 4:04AM
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casual
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  Not necessarily a bad bump....at least he/she used the searchbar. 

  I think a lot of people would have good insight on this topic.  I, however, am a huge poon.  As such, I will offer zero advice.
Feb 23 2009 9:30AM
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ryan13
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This definitely helps. If you ride with someone who is a bit better than you, he will push you that extra bit to make you sack up. Also, try not to stand above something and think about it for too long, you'll just end up thinking about all the ways it can go wrong. Visualize how it will go and slay that bitch!
Feb 23 2009 6:49PM
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sklermang
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to use a funny south park line
Feb 23 2009 6:58PM
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hellomynameisjef
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ski with people who are better than you
Feb 23 2009 6:59PM
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Crack.
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smoke before...I find myself trying a lot more things when i'm blazed
Feb 23 2009 7:04PM
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ilikeplants
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Go go for it and don't think about what could happen. Don't even visualize yourself doing it, just go and do it.

What I find is that if I stand at the top of gnarly line for a long time then I get nervous and start to think about it. Also I don't talk to my friends about the line because I'll end up bringing different things up about what could go wrong and stuff. Have confidence in yourself and know that you can do it.

Other than that just say fuck it and go.

Feb 23 2009 7:08PM
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TheQuailman
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pretty much you gotta be careful with inverts and big jumps, but you can minimize the risk by being smart about it

sure, there are times when you need to just sack up and do it, but then theres also times when you need to back off

if your not feeling it, don't go for it

if your feeling it, go for it

trust your judgement

and work your way up.  Like if you can do 5s, then go for the 7 but don't try a cork 10 if you only land 5s because thats how you can get hurt

visualize all the time, watch videos, talk to those who can do the trick, feel the jump, go for it on a nice soft day

and once you land a trick, keep doing it, don't stop.  It takes a gazillion times to get the muscle memory for a trick correct.  You will forget how to do it the next day.  Like lets say you land a 7.  Keep doing the 7 every run.  Don't go back to 360s or straight airs or work on something else.  Keep doing the trick to remember it

and good luck, don't push yourself past your boundaries too much

Feb 23 2009 7:42PM
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TylerS
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alright heres what i do:

1. Put the music on my ears, full blast.
2. Stare down the feature and get myself lined up to it perfect.
3. Visualize, Visualize, Visualize.
4. Go for it with full confidence.


Feb 23 2009 7:49PM
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joeydude
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The right music can help alot, whatever works for you, i landed my first 3 this year with help from "hanger 18" by megadeth . Alot of people are saying dont think about it, this dosnt work for me though, i like to take a moment to get "in the zone" before trying anything.
Feb 23 2009 8:07PM
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unidude55
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Haha I'm the dame way I tried a c-box and fell and some snowboarders said some nice stuff so my friends same some nice stuff back
Feb 23 2009 9:03PM
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PhilboydStudge
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exactly, it helps so much
Feb 23 2009 9:24PM
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Peter.
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once you try it, and fall, you realize that it doesn't hurt that bad, the pain goes away

Feb 23 2009 9:31PM
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jtskier
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i just say fuck it and go for it
Feb 23 2009 9:32PM
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jmcgeady
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This is the answer to most questions about progression in skiing, especially rails.

1. Down 2 1/2 red bulls
2. Don't ever spot the landing or check the feature before hitting it. You learn all you need to know from the top. Besides knowing the rest is just too dang scary.
3. Throw multiple high fives to your crew ( if crew isn't present, park rats love high fives)
4. Skate approximately 3 times
5. Throw down the fiercest "texas tuck" possible.
6. Whilst gaining speed remember the youtube video you watched where that 14 yr old nailed this trick.
7. Pop as hard and high as you can, throw chosen maneuver as hard as possible "go big or go home".
8. Stomp the shizz out of it.
9. "Afterbang" for 100 yrds and then proceed to "aftertang" for the last 200 yrds.
10. High five the rest of your crew awaiting with footage of your unbelievable balls. (this is especially effective if your balls are actually out, using 2 or 3 bandanas instead of pants works best.)

Now you know the method go perfect it.

Jimmy

Feb 23 2009 10:53PM
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smooticus
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Try constantly calling out the crew you ride with or other peeps in the park.  If you tell your buddy to do something crazy and he stomps it, well then you have no choice, even more so if its some chump you just called out at the top of the lift lol.

But really if your not scared doing something then your prolly not progressing.  The best thing you can do really is to just cowboy up.
Feb 23 2009 11:01PM
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ChadThundercock
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ALWAYS visualize, every good athlete visualizes themselves doing what they trained to do perfectly, and then when you execute the trick, i guarantee it will come out better than just hucking something.
Feb 23 2009 11:14PM
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Daver_BC
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shit man, we should ride some time haha
Mar 1 2009 4:03PM
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Chrris
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I just think,
Comitment is the key to learning.
And learning it the key to progression.
And i want to progress because what's so fun if you don't?


Learning stuff on a tramphelps to because then you know how to throw it.
Mar 1 2009 5:18PM
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MACAQUE
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You just have to go for it. If you second guess yourself at any point, then you crash and burn.
Mar 1 2009 6:06PM
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DJTwiztid
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Dude just find a 100 foot cliff and huck yourself off it. Youll get used to shittin your pants in the air, and you'll also not want to feel that pain ever again in your life, when you eat shit and go tumbling down your landing. Or you can listen to the other posters. They had pretty good comments too.
Mar 1 2009 6:34PM
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klingisking
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i progress when i;m near other guys who are way better than me. i love the feeling of landing new things. so i want to do it more often. thinking it over in your head a million times, going slow mo in you head and picturing what the trick is suposed too look like and then ask some one what is the most suprising part about it and prepare yourself for it. think about what its feels like after wards. dont think about the worst, thinnk about ur future and what it will bring to you. practice on tramp, B.C. ramp camp, or just on curbs for rails.

every day, i thnk about what tricks i want to learn. i write them down adn bring the list with me on the hill. on the lift i take it out and look at it and pick a rail or jmp to do it on...for me, i drank red bull and then i just got a feeling to front flip one day. then i was debating, then i just planned it and prevued it, then i got it the 2nd time. the first i got the rotation but my ski fell off then the sec i got it and that was this year on christmas break. Now, i cna frontflip a 60 ft. at Big Boulder.

its all in your head...just think before you do.

Mar 31 2009 6:00PM
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Peter.
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this helps a ton
Mar 31 2009 6:05PM
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