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Major PS3 delay

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t-man152
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next-generation PlayStation 3 video game console might not appear in key markets this year and could cost the electronics giant $900 per unit to produce initially, according to Merrill Lynch analysts.

Sony has indicated a Spring launch for its console in Japan and the industry is not expecting a North American launch until November. But Hitoshi Kuriyama of Merrill Lynch in Japan says there are reports that the PS3 could be delayed by between six and 12 months, meaning an autumn launch in Japan and a late 2006 or early 2007 launch in the US.

Also, Merrill Lynch analysts in San Francisco have estimated that the initial bill of materials for PS3 could approach $900, falling to $320 by three years after launch.
Feb 21 2006 5:17PM
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FUUUCK
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your source is wrong

it costs $900 to produce a ps3 console, with is extremely cheap. usually consoles are soft for much less than they cost, but the platforms make money off the software which is marked up 10 times
Feb 21 2006 5:25PM
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PacificRimJob
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Nah... they just have to put a factory in China, where they can pay 2 bucks an hour and all that shit.

Your right though, they wont make much profit off the consoles themselves, but with Games costing less than a buck to produce, selling them all for 50-60 bucks a pop is a huge profit, especially being more games are sold than consoles, obviously.
Feb 21 2006 5:29PM
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spyder1
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$900 is too fucking much for a system, i would rather go witht he xbox 360
Feb 21 2006 5:35PM
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jimmychung
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yeah if they're going to sell them for $900 a pop, they can kiss any chance of competing with microsoft goodbye. no one in their right mind would pay more than $500 for a console unless they had money coming out of their nose.
Feb 21 2006 5:37PM
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scarroll
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It said it costs 900 to make it but they will sell it for much cheaper.
Feb 21 2006 5:40PM
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spyder1
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how will they make money from that?
Feb 21 2006 5:41PM
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twix_182
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people have been explaining throughout this thread
Feb 21 2006 5:54PM
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Mattman
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I am happy with my xbox360


yea the ps3 will suck, 2007
Feb 21 2006 6:11PM
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eheath
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I completly agree, xbox 360 rules, fuck yeah bill gates.
Feb 21 2006 6:13PM
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soulskier
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overpricing games
Feb 21 2006 6:15PM
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hurrisun
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whoa its gonna cost over 900 to buy?
Feb 21 2006 7:44PM
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t-man152
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NO NO NO. it cost THEM 900 bucks to make

itl probably be sold for 450 or so. console companies have sometimes made the console for more than the amount it sells for. and picked up the money in game sales.

this is the first time that consoles have cost this much to make though.

but the original Xbox worked the same way.they lost something like 100 bucks for every console they sold in the first 2 years.
Feb 21 2006 8:29PM
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Kornn101
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it will probably sell for 500-700 bucks, but hey, think about this...

its gonna be able to play and read blu-ray discs, and initial estimates for JUST a blu-ray player are at about 1000, so add that plus the functionality of a playstation (all the games and networking and shit) and its a DOPE fuckin deal microsoft cant compete with
Feb 21 2006 8:32PM
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t-man152
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first of all blueray is being postponed right now and it might turn into another format that blueray side and HD-DVD side agree upon.

second. 700 for a console is just silly. a 700 dollar PC right now could do more shit and play better looking games than the PS3

and DVD didnt get big and kill VHS until DVD players wstarted selling for 100 bucks

same thing will happen for blueray so DVD movies are still going to sell.

plus if you dont have an HD TV dont even think about getting the PS# cause the games will just look like PS2 games
Feb 21 2006 8:45PM
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nickmcnutt
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i think apple needs to come out with a console. name it "apple iPlay" or something with i in it
Feb 21 2006 8:53PM
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soulskier
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wats a blue ray disk?
Feb 21 2006 8:54PM
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t-man152
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the next digital media. its like DVD but holds alot more so videos and sounds would be able to be less compressed thus having better quality. this is to complement an HD TV
Feb 21 2006 9:09PM
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donots06
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You're stupid. A guarentee you a $700 pc wouldn't be able to play better looking games than a PS3, not even close. I dont know why you're concerned with movie sales, the fact is that Blueray is going to be able to hold wayyyyyy more then DVD's, which allow for more vast and epic games. And thirdly, saying that if you don't have a HDTV the games will look like PS2 games is ridiculous, Of course its not going to look as good, but it is still going to be much better then PS2.
Feb 21 2006 9:09PM
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donots06
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You're stupid. A guarentee you a $700 pc wouldn't be able to play better looking games than a PS3, not even close. I dont know why you're concerned with movie sales, the fact is that Blueray is going to be able to hold wayyyyyy more then DVD's, which allow for more vast and epic games. And thirdly, saying that if you don't have a HDTV the games will look like PS2 games is ridiculous, Of course its not going to look as good, but it is still going to be much better then PS2.
Feb 21 2006 9:09PM
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t-man152
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if you want to challenge me to build a 700 PC with better gaming capability than the PS3 go ahead but i dont apreciate to be called stupid.

heres a PC thatl kick the PS3's ass

-EPoX EP-9NPA7I Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 4X ATX AMD Motherboard :$71.50
-AMD ATHLON 64 3200+:$169
-1 Gb of DDR 400:$70
-LITE-ON Black 16X DVD+R/DVD-R dvd burner:$57
-Western Digital Caviar 320 GB hard drive:$133
-Leadtek WinFast PX6800 GS TDH EXTREME Geforce 6800GS 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card :$199
Computer case and power supply:$30
OS you can either install Linux or put a version of windows which costs like 100 bucks

grand total:$729.5.

this computer i just made right now so the prices are as of right now. non of them are on sale and they all come from the same site. if you really want it to be under 700 bucks just put in a 120 gig hd. you can also put in the ATI all-in-wonder card instead of the geforce. you would lose some gaming peformance (it would still beat the PS3) and you would gain a TV tuner
Feb 21 2006 9:40PM
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9o2mdkNamzz1_1
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Pwned! had to say it.
Feb 21 2006 9:46PM
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t-man152
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ohh and the computer i mentioned above will play Half life 2 with all setting maxed, Doom 3 with all settings maxed,F.E.A.R with all settings maxed, Far Cry with all settings maxed.

and it should be able to play Unreal tournament 2007 when it comes out
and i can assure you that those games will be what the best looking games on PS3 will look like

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Feb 21 2006 9:46PM
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Localboyz
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good they are delaying it... they need to fix that fucking controller
Feb 21 2006 11:16PM
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donots06
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These prices mean nothing without a website to confirm it. I'm not doubting you, just wondering where I can find things that cheap.

Those games you listed are definitely impressive, but I don't believe they're going to be able to compete with PS3.

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Feb 22 2006 12:01AM
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t-man152
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those were pre rendered. they werent actual gameplay. I went to E3 last year and that Killzone video blew me away. and I got super excited. I couldnt beleive a game could look that good. even for a hardware demo (hardware demos look better than normal games because they use a very small level andonly have the gmae engine render what will be seen by the camera)
when I found out that it wasnt actually using the game engine I was kind of heart broken.

and those prices arnt cheap. those are normal retail prices. I used newegg.com to get theses prices but you can get the same prices at monarchcomputers.com or any other online computer parts vender

and a Power computer. a serious gaming computer (the type that will set you back $3000 would have about 6-7 times the graphics capabilities of the PS3.

you would put 2 geforce 7800s in SLI at about 400 bucks per card that will set you back 800 bucks in video cards alone.
or if you really want to go crazy. dell just unveiled the first quad SLI computer. thats 4 videocards in one machine if you put gforce 7800s thats 12-14 times the graphics power of the PS3
Feb 22 2006 12:22AM
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Mattman
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lol, we were both creating threads like crazy about the 360 and ps3


he's right though, by the way do you have a 360 like me?
Feb 22 2006 1:12AM
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t-man152
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nope. no 360. I just have a Ps2 for SSX: on tour and Gran Turismo 4 and a PC. now that I think of it I might make that PC I just configured. its about time I get a new PC
Feb 22 2006 3:22AM
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