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BERN HELMETS = should be your next helmet.

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CBROOKS
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Bern helmets are designed unlike all the rest. while other helmets (pro tech, R.E.D., Giro) are designed to keep your had from being split open,cracked or penetrated. Bern does this as well as ads a nother layer of softer padding that greatly reduces cuncussions. I just learned this from a coach of mine, who knows this stuff about helmets, he was an arialist and they made there own custom helmets so they would help prevent cuncussions more. they put extra padding in, softer padding. well now bern helmets are designed this way. PLUS THEY LOOK DOPE. buy bern.
Feb 20 2006 10:08PM
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Flo_Rida_2016
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First of all, Bern is too underground. I don't judge their R&D. I mean look at R.E.D. and Giro. Both are huge incorporated companies which pour millions into their R&D department. Giro, the leading manufacturing helmet company in the world, almost definately has already tested this "softer padding" theory and has probably ruled it out. R.E.D. Giro and even Protec have million dollar laboratories that test head trauma and hiar the leading scientists and doctors in that field. That said, youre telling me that this underground company called Bern has surpassed all of the engineering and R&D that huge corporations with actual research and development teams, with actual PhD and MD scientists?
Bern helmets cannot be more safe than R.E.D.'s or Giro's. They simply cannot afford the R&D required to test their concussion saving theories. Furthermore, their helmets are designed for all sports. How could a "everysport" helmet which requires an extra liner for winter games be more safe than a specialized winter games helemt developed by scientists? Bern is just an underground company producing a helmet that looks cool but maynot be safer. I mean, their website doesnt even come up on the first page of Google.
Im not here to diss Bern. Im just saying its impossible for Bern to be more safe than a RED Giro or Protec. I would like to say though that that visor coupled with the roundness of the helmet makes it look goofy.
Feb 20 2006 10:16PM
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Flo_Rida_2016
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wow iwrote a lot
Feb 20 2006 10:17PM
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k2yeags
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yep
Feb 20 2006 10:23PM
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Flo_Rida_2016
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2nd sentence: I dont *trust* their r&d
Feb 20 2006 10:25PM
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potatofarmer
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I just ordered the baker today. I said Id like to order an Itemthe guy on the phone said:
-Is it a helmet
I said yes
-is it a bern
yes
-is it the baker
wow, youre good
he said that they are the hottest thing right now, and some of the nicest helmets on the market according to the guys in his shop who have them
Feb 20 2006 10:36PM
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CBROOKS
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i can tell you right now, from expeirience. pro tech helmets dont do jack shit for cuncussions. and from people who have had R.E.D. and giro helmets that have switched to bern they tell me that hitting there head hurts half as much, they can feel the difference.i know it doesnt sound super legit. but it is.
Feb 20 2006 11:02PM
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Flynn
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Red and giro arent putting millions into their R&D, they are big but nowhere near that big. The ski/board market is very very small compared to others that would allow for a R&D budget that big.

Id trust bern as much as id trust giro,leedom, red, any of those.
Feb 20 2006 11:09PM
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CBROOKS
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yeah i wasnt gona say you were wrong about that dude but it sounded sketch, thank you for confirming this.
Feb 20 2006 11:18PM
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Edward.
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youre just saying that because youre sponsored by them
Feb 20 2006 11:19PM
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Riley.
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Hes right though.
www.fireonthemtn.com
Feb 20 2006 11:44PM
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Flo_Rida_2016
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who the bern dude?
Feb 20 2006 11:51PM
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Flo_Rida_2016
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Uh yes millions. Althoug hthe market sec is small, the prices for products in this industry are huge. That said, the revenue gained by these companies is considerable and therefore, millions are spent. Think about burton. They pay shaun white millions to wear the trace. They pay millions to have their equip be in the olympics. They make millions. If theyre makin millions, they invest millions. Also, You do realize that this giro is the same giro that makes lance armstrong's $300 bike helmet (different divisions, same company) and i think they have a little more reasearch and knowledge than bern does. I would defiantely trust a more legit company such as red or giro.
Feb 20 2006 11:55PM
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Kendo
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wait till next year for the giro helmets, sick new omen and colors for the others and now they are introducing bluetooth technology into the heaphones (which makes everything wireless) and they come out and double as regular wireless headphones, nasty lineup...trust me
Feb 21 2006 12:55AM
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$tezzyStu
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iwas checkin them out the other day
they're dope
Feb 21 2006 1:32AM
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bass_munkie
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they don't look like ski helmets... the pictures show them with totally open ears... how can't a helmet really be that great if you have to wear a hat or something under it?
Feb 21 2006 8:29AM
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R.Fahey
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Well, i disagree, because BERN is a division or is owned by the same guy that owned LEEDOM, who put tons of money into R&D. They're legit, and i would trust them.
Feb 21 2006 9:23AM
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acc
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^yeah what he said. Bern is a new company but it's president was a partner in creating leedom.
Feb 21 2006 10:17AM
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LDN-Ski
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that bern baker helmet looks pretty slick
Feb 21 2006 11:03AM
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Krish
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quicksilver... --- better
Feb 21 2006 11:08AM
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Flo_Rida_2016
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just because its owned by the same dude doesnt mean it has the same R&D you dipshit. The ownership of a company has almost little or nothing to do with the products a company develops. There are people who are venture capalists and such who found companies with a general idea but do little in the production process. If the owner of the company was that involved in the production process, id be even less trustworthy cuz that just shows a lack of deparmentalization. If Bern doesnt have a R&D department (which it doesnt; it doesnt even have departments first of all) then it doenst have good R&D.
Feb 21 2006 11:11AM
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Jernt
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they do look somewhat tempting
Feb 21 2006 11:21AM
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anon.ymous
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simple fact is this...

A helmet CANNOT be sold without first meeting an ANSI (i believe those are the correct initials) minimum certification for the sports they are intended for. This means that any helmet meets a minimum requirement for safety, and that minimum requirement is enough to reduce most concussions, and in most cases will save lives.

Ive seen these Bern helmets tested first hand. Forrest Frizzle took a fall off some urban in VT, and put his head directly into cheese grater stairs (hitting his head first, and hard) and popped back up with not even a headache. If the helmet can take that fall, I would have no issue wearing one myself
Feb 21 2006 1:43PM
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Flo_Rida_2016
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Thanks for proving my point. Bern's Baker doesnt meet the ANSI requirements for snowsports (correct me if im wrong), just for watersports and streetsports. Furthermore, i never said they wouldnt stop concussions, i jsut said there is no possible way that they would stop concussions better than a giro or red.
Feb 21 2006 2:30PM
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skimasterflex
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^Bro maybe you should give up the hating. Leedom has always been known for selling ski helmets which pass the requirements of the motorcycle helmet test, an obviously much harder test. If the Leedom guy is making this new brand I bet they're damn good helmets.
Feb 21 2006 2:52PM
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Flo_Rida_2016
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you dont really get it do you? the leedom guy owns the company. the guy who owns leedom never developed any helmets, his r&d team did not him. so just cuz he might own this comapny, doesnt mean he brought his r&d team over. And its not the leedom guy who owns bern. its like some cofounder or something.

anyway, im not hating, im just saying they arent as good as giros or reds so dont say they are.

Feb 21 2006 3:18PM
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anon.ymous
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its not legal to sell a helmet, or any protective device, for a peticular sport if it DOES NOT meet ANSI requirements for protection. If you market a helmet for snow sports, it must be certified. Thats why the certification system is in place to start with.

All I know is ive seen first hand the abuse that the brimmed Bern helmet stood up to, and I was extremely impressed. Metal and helmets dont go together, and if someone can walk away without even a headache after putting their skull directly into metal stairs, then the product did its job and more
Feb 21 2006 4:31PM
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acc
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thanks for the lesson in vc's buddy. the two creators of leedom had a little more time, effort, and input into leedom than just the $$.

bern helmets are legit and SAFE
Feb 21 2006 4:36PM
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skimasterflex
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Listen to you you're an effing newb you have under 100 posts and half of them are in this thread. If you havn't used the product then you can't talk shit about it thats that. Welcome to NS you little bitch.
Feb 21 2006 5:04PM
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CBROOKS
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haha, i fucking wish.
Feb 21 2006 5:36PM
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steezin3s
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those are the only helmets out there that are actually weareable. all other helmets are gay as fuck.
Feb 21 2006 8:20PM
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Flo_Rida_2016
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wow yea you sound like youre a pretty sick skier. O wait nope, you use words like newb and base a person's ski ability on their post count. Sounds more like an internet nerd or gamer who browses forums all day rather than actually skiing. Look at your 1,300+ post count. who has that kind of time? Why dont you hit puberty, grow some balls, learn how to do a 180, then come back and tell me to shut up.

for the rest of you, im not saying either way. I mean im not saying Bern is a bad helmet, im just saying they cant be more concussion-preventive as a giro. You have to understand that giros are hands down the best there is (no, i dont own a giro) protection wise. They spend millions (yes i just realized i could use the italics html tag) on their stuff. They do wind tunnel tests on their bike helmets and use those special machines to see net forces on their helmets, specific break points, specific human skull pressure points, etc. Bern doesnt. Im not saying bern cant prevent a concussion, im saying Giro must do it equally or better. Im just goin against wat the first guy said about it being better. thats all. And the fact that the visor is a little iffy.

Feb 21 2006 8:47PM
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Flynn
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Ok, you need to learn the difference between millions, and thousands (or even hundred thousdands. Usualy people have a problem seperating millions, billions, and trillions simply because they sound so similar. However saying shaun white is paid millions by RED is flatout wrong. Saying they (RED) pay millions to have their equipment in the olympics is flatout wrong.

Saying Burton puts millions into the olympics would be true, however they also get hundreds of thousands from companies like Apple for having their athletes constantly using and having their pictures taking with ipods.

If they are making millions, they do invest millions. RED however is not putting millions into their R&D because that would be way to large of a percent of its entire budget.

Giro however is a different story. They have a much much much larger market than RED as an entire company, therefor much more money to put into the company. Because they can share technology from division to division it gives them an advangtage in the R&D catergory simply because they have more money as a whole to focus on it. You do know giro is also the company that produces those amazing bell helmets at kmart too right? does that make you want to buy them?

In the end the high end helmets from company to company are pretty much the same thing and it doesnt matter which one you buy. I just wanted the point out the fact that you are incredibly wrong, and have no understanding of the business world.
Feb 21 2006 9:17PM
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oakjewlery
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not to get off topic but what is berns webpage?
Feb 21 2006 9:26PM
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dbag37
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www.bernunlimited.com
Feb 21 2006 9:27PM
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skir216
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... and thats why those helemets are recalled. i had them in my store and they were defective so there you go. not so great, but if u say so
Feb 21 2006 10:59PM
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acc
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the only r&d red has is throwing different audio set-ups & bluetooth into their helmets...
Feb 22 2006 9:55AM
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Anarchyrides
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Let's end this debate right now beatches..Leedom Helmets are the best, better than giro/red/protec. See real world test of strength link below. It is not r&d that sells lids, it is sales and marketing budgets and word of mouth...the giro shattered.

http://www.backcountry.com/store/newsletter/s52/a228/Goat-Test-2-Helmets.html

Feb 22 2006 5:28PM
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Flynn
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haha, so true
Feb 22 2006 8:32PM
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coolhomie9
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just don't fall and its all good
Mar 6 2006 5:17PM
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line-cronic
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hahah more like your some 40 year old guy who doesnt know shit about skiing and is just trying to sell a fucking helmt. gte a life fag...... and a really job
Mar 6 2006 6:57PM
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Literature
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As a skiier and bmxer with 9 concussions, I can speak from experience. I have had 4 concussions from Giros "safer" helmets. The foam in the giros or reds for that matter needs a lot of energy to crush, so no matter what you will get a concussion. The hard foam is designed to save you if you hit your head on a tree at 30 miles per hour, not if you backslap on a park landing.

I currently use a protec Classic skate with soft padding. All of my concussions have resulted from head on snow contact, and preventing more is very important to me. The soft foam has saved me twice this year, and once last summer when I knocked two teeth out of my head and severly blurred my vision briefly when I put my face into the coping at our local skatepark. I trust the soft foam way more than that styrofoam crap that is the best that they can do with all their millions in R & D.

Look at aerialists. They are routinely going 5 stories in the air and backslapping or landing on their heads, and they wear soft padded skate helmets. They are not wearing giro or red.

If Bern is supporting the soft foam concept, more power to them. It is nice to see a snowsports helmet maker stepping up with cool design (the Baker looks sick) and good padding (the most important part) in a helmet.
Mar 6 2006 7:00PM
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420_Fujative_420
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i saw a girl rocking a bern helmet this weekend and that shit was hott.
Mar 6 2006 7:21PM
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Fairview
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So now that your ex-boyfriend or whatever he is gets fired, you're suddenly against the company? He didn't get fired because the company sucks, it's because he sucks, and is a dishonest piece of shit. No reason to badmouth brands that are leading the industry.
Mar 6 2006 7:46PM
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420_Fujative_420
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^ nicely said
Mar 7 2006 7:47PM
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huck1
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just so everyone knows. the sticker on the Bern Baker helmet clearly states that it does not meet the guidelines for snowboarding and skiing. However, it does comply with canoeing and various other water sports.

how do i know? I just ordered one last week and used it for the first time Friday and Saturday. i didn't take any hard falls. But, its SUPER cool and fits better than any other helmet I've tried on.

and by the way, you might want to ski with skimasterflex before you start talking trash.
Mar 7 2006 9:05PM
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bpalmer
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Bro, do your homework. Taylor throws down, is sponsored by LINE and Helly, skis with Eric Pollard. You don't know who you are talking to, keep your mouth shut.

All I know is that I've gotten 2 concussions with Giro, and currently zero with my Pro Tec, but I don't trust either company. If this helmet helps concussions, I'm in 110%.
Mar 7 2006 9:20PM
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ajskixscream
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ya all i wanna know is if it protects my head as much as any helmet, then i'm down for wearin it. Also, it looks like helmets like the brentwood from Bern protect your head more than the Baker because it has passed more safety requirements or something.
Mar 21 2006 1:16AM
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