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Are Aerials and Moguls Freestyle Skiing?
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When people ask my if I watched the freestyle skiing in the olympics, I really wonder if these disiplines are freestyle anymore. Both are extremely difficult to master and I give them props for what they are doing, but they don't have what I would call style. If someone were to start doing things a little differently, and adding their own style to it, I would call it freestyle, but right now it seems like what-everyone-else-is-doing-style.
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David you're just mad you can't do moguls and are too embarressed to compete.
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don't worry about it...just tell people you ski, but that you jump, spin, grab, jump onto rails, do flips off of cliffs and wear clothes that don't fit normally. let them compare and contrast the two. are there any skiers left, that just ski to have fun? or is NS ruining us all.
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If mogul skiers dont have style, then I don't know what style is.
I dont think you have to be completely unique to have style.
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i think its cool. i think its much eaiser to judge the technical difficulty of the airs than it is to judge the 'style' of turns.
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of course they have style. but to recieve points they perfect the style the judges want to see. the argument is that the style has ceased to become 'free' and so contradicts the name of the event.
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I think the "free" part of the event is expressed in the individuals choice of trick. I don't think you could really judge people skiing the moguls however they want.
Like other comps there are things that you just can't do and expect to win. No one will go in a comp that NS'er have became a custom to and huck cossaks or backscratchers or twister spreads because they are lame now. The judges at the olympics think that skiing the moguls like a slob is lame. Thats m'word.
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whatever you call it its tight and i believe we should be glad its even in the olympics!!!
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the arials are definitly loseing the free in frestyle, they are not supposed to grab or do any thing other then a off axis flips with spins, all as stiff as possible points are taken away for bent knees or wast. I think it would be great if some guy got to the olympic finals and then was just like fuck this, and did a cork 9 true tail or a zero, mind you takeing off switch in one of thoes jumps would be near impossible they are about 15 feet high and near 70 degrese at the lip.
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heres another question, is a big air competition that comes down to who can throw the best switch 10 freestyle skiing?
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I was just thinking that same shit dude. Whats a freestyle cometition when everyone does the exact same trick?
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^^i dont think olympic arialists really care that a few newschool kids dont think what they do is cool. i'm pretty sure they would be stoked to throw their best trick that would score highest, as they have trained years to get where they got.
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yes enough said
-thank you next question
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.......................yes
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I don't care if they dig what I think either. Its not like were going to send them a link to this forum. These forums were set up to share opinions not.
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yeah i really dont like mogul style tricks at all.
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yeah taking off switch would be hard, but if they just did like a 5 i bet if they really got it down they could 180 right after they landed and keep going, and that would be the coolest thing to ever happen in moguls.
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Mogul skiing is tight shit guys. If you think about it, Its where freeskiing was born. All the daffys and spreads and quad twisters of the oldschool hotdoggers. That was the shit.
All it took was some mind power, Combine the sick shit we see in mogul skiing, and combine it with the sick shit that snowboarding has brought to us, and create twin tip skis and freeskiing and all that tight shit! yeah. Without Johnny Moseley's Mute 3 in '98 and the "dinner roll" in '02 who knows if freeskiing would be as huge as it is today.
I give anyone in that sport props. Especially that Canadian dude, fucking corked 10, stuck it, and then finished off with a mogul line. Those things are 4 feet tall and ice hard, thats fucking gnar dude. Mad skills.
The only gripes about it I see are that the difficulty of trick isnt compensated with a bad landing or anything. I say that if you bust out a corked 10 and dont fall on the landing but come off a bit sketch, you did way better than say some guy who did a simple 360 and stuck the landing.
Aerials on the other hand, Im sorry, but its just become old. I mean, those guys have to work hella hard for what they do Ill give them that, its not an easy thing to do that at all, but there isnt much to it. Its like curling. Same thing. Every time. The guy who does the Quad twister(or whatever the biggest trick is) and sticks it the best wins. You cannot change up your style. You have to keep the body completely erect and all that. I mean, its cool and all in its own respect, I give those guys the upmost props for what they do, but its almost like winter olympics take on Diving. Same crap, same results. You cant really progress further than a certain level.
If Halfpipe skiing or Skiercross were to enter the winter games, I would think aerials would get the boot first, but who knows. Maybe they can just add our sports to the mix. Maybe by 2010 or 2014 we will be in there. We will just have to wait and see...
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they're both progressing at different rates than actual freestyle skiing. freestyle will likely always be more progressive than moguls and aerials because its so much more focused on inventing newer and sicker tricks than moguls or aerials which have different elements to focus on. Things will continue to change as time passes.
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off course moguls are freestyle skiing. dont they do the same trix on the jumps that you dont do on the big jump?
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Moguls is pretty darn progressive. You dont even see Twisters or Daffys anymore. You instead see D-Spins and Corked 7's. Maybe even a 10 here and there.
Its progressed a lot since its conception, thats for sure.
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someone tried to do nosegrab 360 in the moguls. that was funny shit.
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big air and areials are two different parts of skiing. how can you compare a cork 9 to full double full or something?
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^toguy you quoted. Ariels are a different discipline, ifyou dont think it takes skill your wrong. ariels is NOT what we do,and it should not be what we do. yes it is similar to a sport such as diving, but is there anything wrong with that? i dont think so. it is still hard as hell.
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Dude its where we came from you tards, the park came from moguls. Everyone has style, some of it is just not liked by some. Freeskiing? I would say a triplet backflip 720 would be somewhat FREE, get over the STYLIE 3's are better then super tech tricks. You need a combination. Its all freestyle, and no one judges thats why its dope.
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the free in freestyle still revolves around choice... which then involves chance... I think the tricks they are throwing in bumps are sick. Who here has attempted to ski an olympic caliber bump field such as the one on wilderness at whiteface? If you can rip through that shit and not look like the bumps are about to kill you then I give you mad props. I try but if its the least bit icy I have some trouble haha
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Moguls have come so far...last Olympics they were still doing twisters and spreads and the like, maybe a 360 here and there. Since then the FIS allowed inverted spins, and last night I didn't see one twister, daffy, or spread. They are doing corked 7s, D-spins, rodeos, and 1080s. Toby Dawson even threw a mute into his 7.
I think moguls are going to continue to progress in the jump area, and next time there will be almost no people throwing pencil steeze. Also I think it would be sick if someone did a 5 or a 9 on the last jump because there's only a few small moguls at the bottom. If people start doing that in next years World Cup the judges might get used to it and we could see it next Olympics.
By the way, did anyone else notice the guy with Joystick poles at the beginning of the finals? I think he was a Canadian.
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good to see that in our creative sport (where everyone has his own expression, if the creator of this thread meant that) everybody was throwing switch 10s at the Xs.
just call what you do or what you want to do newschool, so you arent colliding with the freestyle term.
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Mogul skiing is sick. Plain out sick. Sure, there are still oldschool elements to the sport, but thats understandable since it started back in the 70's and all that, and wasnt an olympic sport untill 12 years ago.
Either way, It would be freakin sick if they started throwing switch tricks into mogul skiing...
Imagine throwing a switch nine, punching through a field of 4 foot moguls, punching off a 900 Dspin switch landing and butter back to revert in order to finish the course..
Damn that would be sick, sure you would get shitty speed time, but FUCK that would be sick.
I say they make the tricks 50% of the score instead of the whole keeping your skis together, because that one canadian guy throwing 10's got like 6th or 7th place, when he was the only one going that huge. If he only added some steezy grabs into those 10's though, that would be sick shit.
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