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Line vs. Rossi vs. Salomon
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Alrite i ride hard pack snow, ice, and some pow. I usually ski downhill, moguls, bumps and jumps here and there, some drops, but i want something with park ability it just doesnt have to be the best park ski, preferably twin tip or close to it. Now i was either thinking of the 1080's, the pocket rockets, the 1260's, the mike nicks, the skogens, the mavericks the scratch FS, or the scratch bc. Yeah i know alot of choices but if you ride pretty much what i ride or you know of a good all-mountain ski let me know which one i should pick, or if u just have an opion. I also need to decide petween 1080 boots and Line Transfer boots, and im not sure about the bindings either the scratch, the line reactor 12, or the look pivot. thanx
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From what you mentioned, go with the the FS, The 1080 Boot and Look Pivot Bindings. That is a sick (but expensive) setup!
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look at the skogens with the pivogy(if you can get it), but stay away from the boot, go with the teneighty boot, the line boot is way too soft for all mountain
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What you want is a Volkl G3 Vertigo. It performs superbly in the conditions you mentioned, and it's got about as much twin as the old-model K2 Enemy. It'd be on the upper end of what you want for stiffness in the park, but I skiied it at Winter Park and it ripped the shit out of the pow, bumps, groomers, and pipe.
As far as boots, if you're going to be mostly all-mountain and less park, definitely stay away from the Transfer; it is a freestyle-only boot. The 1080 boot is nice, but for you (more all-mountain) I'd look at the W8 from Nordica. It's the same shape inside as the Beast, which has won countless 'best-fit' awards, but it's about half as stiff. Plus it's got a bitchin translucent metalflake red shell. Here's a pic: http://www.northernski.com/products/nordica/boots/nord_w8red.jpg
I'm a Line whore through and through (own 2 pairs of 'em, soon to be 3), but for skiing all over the mountain first and freestyling last, they really can't touch that G3. One of my favorite skis.
As another option, look at the Dynastar Concept/Candide models. Last year's Candide is the best 'Own one pair of skis and want to freestyle a lot but still ski the rest of the mountain' ski I've ever skiied. The G3 beats it on the groomed and beats it badly in pow, but the Candide freestyles much much better.
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I agree with ski_bum. I use that exact setup and i love it. It kicks ass all over the mountain despite what some people will tell you.
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1080's are very nice all mountain, maybe a bit tricky in the bumps though. The G3 is a rediculous ski in my opinion. Not a big fan of Rossignal. 1080 boot would be a good boot. You might find that as you become more aggressive you might want something a little stiffer like the xwave 9 or something....
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I'd say Salomon on this one... most Lines wouldn't go well for the all-mountain stuff you want, and the rossis are too soft for hard snow. Teneighties.
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is the 1080 or the scratch fs lighter? what are they made of, i know 1080 is foam core, whats FS?
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fs is has a hybrid core, foam and wood.
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1080s are the best for all mt
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I'd go with the 1080's maybe the mavericks their pretty good all mtn too
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I guess the question to ask is what your priority in skis are. My understanding is that you really don't spend THAT much time on freestyle terrain, perhaps a ratio of 85% all-mountain, 15% freestyle. A freestyle ski WILL NOT perform as well all-mountain as an all-mountain ski will. Both categories are made for different purposes. Do you want the best performing all-mountain ski that can still freestyle or do you want the best freestyle ski for all-mountain skiing? If the former, the G3 is the way to go. If the latter, look at the Line Maverick.
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EM- you have to admit that the 1080 is a pretty damn good all mountain ski. I do agree though, the g3 is the master blaster of all disasters.
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Im about a 70% all mountain but i love air so i need something that can handle jumps and drops, the other 30% is park so i atleast need something that can ride fakie, im almost positive im goin with the 1080 boots i tried them on they are perfect and i dont need tons of stiffness. If i go with line ill get the line binding if i get anything else prolly the look pivot, i just need to know bout the ski ill chech out the ones u sugested. What bout either skogens, mike nicks, or either rossi i dont think im gonna get the pocket rockets maybe the 1080's
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If you do any mogul skiing DO NOT get the PR's. I have a pair and I love to mogul ski, when it's a good mogul day I go put on my old skis. The g3 (to my knowledge) should have plenty of tail lift to allow you to ride fakey. BUT, the 1080 is a true twin. I loved it when I rode it and would consider a pair down the road. Keep in mind they are not very stiff so you might consider going a little longer if you are looking for flotation.
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Get the Line Mavericks they're an all Mtn. ski with park ability. They can do it all. Theyre great mogul skis too. Mavericks can handle anything on the Mtn.
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hmmm...i'm sensing that this guy has some sort of connection to these so called 'mavericks' or 'mavs'. That's okay, they are good skis. My suggestion, try before you buy. Find some dude who looks like he's cool, ask him if you can take a couple of runs on his skis if you have to. There is a distinct advantage to trying before buying. Have fun with it and good luck.
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The 1080's are great all mountain skis, even compared to other big mountain ski's and there great for the park, and the new spacefram tech makes them nice and light, and most twins now a days are rougly the same weight. Im not sure abou the bindings though. And if you have narrow feet, the 1080 boots might not be the best bet.
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i have the entire 1080 set-up and it kicks ass, aside from the bindings, great in pow, park, trees, whatever...but for bindings i would get anything besides line or salomon, the salomon bindings this year don't seem to be up to par with the way they were in previous years, i know numerous people that have complained about it, i would go with either the rossi scratch/look p12's, basically the same binding, or some marker 1200 titaniums, something along that line,
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70-30, my recommendation remains the same. The 1080 is good all-mountain and spectacular park. G3 is unfreakinbelievable spectacular all-mountain and good enough park. My only beef with chosing the 1080 for primarily all-mountain is its softness. It gets beaten around in crud at speed.
The Maverick is (supposedly) a great ski, supposed to handle bumps and groomed while still performing like a Line in the park. I haven't skied it, as it wasn't in my line guy's demo fleet.
As far as bindings, my always-answer to that is Salomon. 5 year warranty seals the deal every time (every other company is 1-3) I am quickly becoming a Marker believer as well, the Ti1200 bindings are light and bombproof. As far as Look/Rossi, I personally am not a fan. They perform very well, but we've had repeated cases of the screws ripping out of many different brands of skis (including Rossi, strangely). The first time I saw them, I pretty much predicted it, they use a very short screw and a very narrow mounting pattern, having a bunch of holes close together makes it more prone to failure of that nature. Take a look at a Rossi/Look toepiece next to a Salomon or a Marker. It's about half as wide. Anyway, those are my recommendations, since you already found a great-fitting boot. With the boot, buy a size that's super-tight now because it will gain a good bit of space when it breaks in and you don't want it to get sloppy.
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Is there anything that rides like the 1080, has a true twin, but carries a little more stiffness and flotation in around a 170cm length....skogens? If not its teneightys, would get the G3's but i want a true twin...
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yo man i ride the 03 skogens with the reactor bindings there mad nice but the bindings add some weight i just got back from skiing up at stratton for the weekend and the skogens did great in the woods even in those rare powder spots if i were u i wood check out getboards.com there a special deal on last years 1260s for mad cheap.
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get the new K2 Public Enemy! Really nice edges, good core and sidewalls, the tightest graphics ever on a ski, k2factoryteam.com! Plus, they're only $350.
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