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Mosley vs Dumont

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Ice-Is-Scary
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Ok so Mosley is a big sellout but Dumont is a fucking hero for "bringing freeskiing to the mainstream". You guys are such hipocrits.
Jan 27 2006 2:19AM
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ginNjuice
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very true
Jan 27 2006 2:32AM
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pbandj
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Jan 27 2006 2:55AM
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TheStamos
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i thnk mosely is a baller.. he gets so much poon, unless i remember him beeing married.... anyone? You bring a gold medal into a bar and you never have to pay for a drink again, plus bitches dig skiers.. its wired into there DNA thats a fucking fact.
Jan 27 2006 2:57AM
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KeegLove
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dumont's just the man so like ya go dumont. but johnny did do alot for the sport so u have to show the guy some respect.
Jan 27 2006 3:05AM
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Ice-Is-Scary
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I thought mosley took silver
Jan 27 2006 3:15AM
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Tze.C
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dumont's awesome, but i don't think it was him who brought freestyle to mainstream
Jan 27 2006 6:21AM
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Jerome812
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i dont think freestyle is MAINstream
Jan 27 2006 6:22AM
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KZA
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honestly if any of us were in the same situation wed do the same shit, skiing is essentially their job and they wanna make as much money as possible. i think the difference is that mosely was a fag and was gay as shit on mtv, thats why i dont like him.
Jan 27 2006 6:42AM
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vv1zard
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isn't selling out the whole point... i always wondered why people got so frustrated when someone sells out, that is why they put in all the hard work in the first place...so the could sell out
Jan 27 2006 9:07AM
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sg
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this is the only post i will write on this site. i am happy for dumont, who is a pretty good friend of mine. i think its a pretty impressive thing where a kid who loves to ski can make a living doing what he loves, not to mention help skiing reach a level in recognition that it has never seen. recognition creates more intrest, more products, more variety in the sport. look at skateboarding. there is no one way to skate, no set group of pros, no company domination. just people out skating and expressing their selves in their skating. ski cause you love to ski and you have fun, not cause its cool and you want to be the best...there is no best on the hill. at the end of the day the kid that had the most fun wins...peace-sg
Jan 27 2006 9:52AM
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potatofarmer
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damn, I get made fun of... mostly by chicks for skiing.
Jan 27 2006 9:54AM
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skier27
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they both brought more money into the sport and thats a good thing
Jan 27 2006 9:59AM
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Lax_Bro40
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jonny isnt a sell out.. he kept TJ schiller in the sport
Jan 27 2006 10:10AM
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dan4060
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Jonny did alot for the sport. He should have won gold in 2002 as well, but he changed the way mogul competitions are. Everyone does off-axis spins in the bumps now, and the contests have gotten sick. Also, watch the realm and see Moseley destroy big mountain lines. I have not seen any current jibbers put together a film segment that is definitely better than what Moseley did back then. On his first trip to Alaska he was laying down first descents. How many other people can say that?
Jan 27 2006 1:16PM
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Ice-Is-Scary
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wooord
Jan 27 2006 6:13PM
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midwest_rep
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He did a switch rodeo 7 at the 99 USOpen Slopestyle. What?? 2 years before Tanner used that trick to win all the comps. Plus he was throwing Rodeo 9s in 1998. That's when 720 tail grabs and 360 mute grabs were considered tech. So take that bitches. Mosely is the man and used to be at the top of the game.
Jan 27 2006 6:54PM
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Dan-Man
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I'll give you that but I haven't seen him anywhere in like 2 years , and can he ride a pipe or slide a rail?
Jan 27 2006 6:56PM
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$$RivalD$$
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Dumont is a fucking badass!! it's like an underground band getting a record contract who ever bitches about selling out is a fucking faggot hypocrite and would do the exact same thing if they were in his place.. so fuck all the haters the guy is living the dream! who gives a fuck if it's mainstream it's gonna be some day he might as well cash his check while he can. the guy is good and deserves to get paid bank for it.
Jan 27 2006 6:56PM
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*DrewT*
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how is it that dumont made skiing mainstream? As for mosley he helped the sport a lot but he's just way past his time and he knows it himself that's why he doesnt go to many comps or anything
Jan 27 2006 7:02PM
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ThisAngelicRage
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i don't really care, nor do i have much of a strong opinion on either instances. but i think a lot of what makes a difference to people is, dumonts still skiing and ripping, mosely... isn't.
Jan 27 2006 7:11PM
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dandoy
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They're both awesome...
Well Johnny Moseley was awesome. I don't think he's a sellout though, everyone's gotta pay the bills.
Jan 27 2006 7:38PM
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Aenigma
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It doesn't look like everybody realizes this but.....Mosely's time was a ways before Dumont's, that's why he isn't on top of things anymore. You could say the same thing about Dumont not being pro when Mosely got gold at the olympics, they're from different times so you really can't make a good comparison between the two.
Jan 27 2006 7:50PM
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ThisAngelicRage
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^ but you see mosely didn't 'sell out' per se until he was on his way out... dumont's still relatively new, so no one really has the place to make the claim that he's riding his wave as far as it can take him...
Jan 27 2006 7:59PM
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pwallstreet
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hey fuck that dumont just signed with target
how much more of a sell out can you be
get the fuck out of here with that weak ass shit
Jan 27 2006 11:32PM
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nickmcnutt
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mosely was cool, but now he just kinda is never seen, and dumont rips it. i cant take mosely seriously, because in the intro to mad trix, he said "late" and that was so fucking hilarious i laughed for like 3 days
Jan 27 2006 11:35PM
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xcjumpx
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j mose did so much for this sport. he brought attention to the sport. hell, i quit snowboarding because i wanted to be like mosley when i was younger. i know that dumont is doing a lot for this sport as well. i think he will have a similar impact on skiing as shawn white has thrown onto snowboarding.
Jan 28 2006 12:00AM
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Nivrittam
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moseley did progress teh sport lots but i cant respect him because he is to much bs and everyone talks about how he is going to save freeskiing all over again but it will now never die, so i dont see what the fuck people see in him
Jan 28 2006 12:04AM
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illwillcox
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isn't johnny a mormon and he has a bunch of wives?
Jan 28 2006 12:04AM
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dan4060
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I have not seen him in a while either. I have seen him slide rails. But when you can spin off-axis in bumps AND step up and DESTROY Alaskan lines it really does not matter whether or not he slides rails. Check out the first descent he lays down in "The Realm," one of the sickest lines you will ever see and he arcs through it like Nobis or Hugo or Seth or McConkey. When you can do that it really does not matter how well you slide rails.
Feb 16 2006 12:13PM
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Melvs
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Jonny has done what any of you fucking whiney kids would've done, taken a huge sum of cash and try to promote skiing while on TV. Moseley is STILL trying to popularize the sport and help us grow as a sport, and anyone who says anything bad about Jonny can eat a dick. He is the reason I am into newschool skiing, he has done more for this sport any any of you young kids fucking realize, and although he acts a little toolish at times, he is doing EXACTLY what any of you would do.
Feb 16 2006 12:17PM
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KRASHED
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Moseley isnt eh? Where'd you pull that fact out of? Moseley has done more for the sport than any other skier, and hes still ripping today
Feb 16 2006 12:19PM
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dan4060
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I have lots of respect for Dumont. However I will not put him on Moseley's level until I see him ski Alaskan lines the way Jonny can. I know Jonny does not ski anymore, but back around 2000 there was a very good argument that he was the best skier on the planet. Can you name anyone else who has Alaskan first descents, x-games gold, AND olympic gold? Plus, he is responsible for changing olympic judging. Give the man his due.
Feb 16 2006 12:19PM
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Public_Maverick
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haha yea me too, but then they actually see me on the features, and they say "damn, i thought you said you skied"
and i'm like "fuck you bitch, you had your chance"
Feb 16 2006 12:27PM
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tride
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Why is that, because his one jump was better than everyone elses?

Yes he won the Olympic mogul bottom air contest, but that is only 12.5% of the total score (both airs constitute 25%).

In the other 87.5 % of the run, he was nowhere near the level of the 3 guys that beat him. He was 3 seconds slower, his turns were not as good, and his top air (triple twister) was not as good as the other skiers.

Mosely kicked a lot of ass out there and did great things, but he did NOT deserve to win in 2002.

Mogul skiing includes jumps, but should not be decided by only one of the jumps.
Feb 16 2006 12:33PM
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t3shellvenom
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definately true, why would they all be trying to make so much dough if in the end they arent going to expand and work even harder at it?
Feb 16 2006 12:35PM
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stylishskier
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dumont is... 20? Moseley is...30? There are older rippers out there like seth and mike d but it takes a toll on the body. Im sure Moseley hasn't quit skiing, he just isn't mainstream anymore... I think a better comparo to johnny would be JP or JF cusson, where is JF these days??
Feb 16 2006 12:57PM
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Hctiws_iks
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by current judging of a cork7 in the moguls, he would have won. When he threw it, he threw it knowing that it wasnt neccesarily going to win it, but he threw it anyways. johnny mosely single-handedly changed mogul skiing with 2 tricks a360 mute and a cork 7. On another note, he alsoused to kill it at freeskiing as well.
Far too many rip on moguls skiers sayingthey are not stylish ect. Mogul skiing is a different discipline altogether. It should not be judged the same way.
Feb 16 2006 1:09PM
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SHastatahoe
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Mosley is respectable, and he has defiently done a lot for the sport, I mean most skiers credit him with the begining of "freestyle" with the 3 mute, I am even tempted to say that was the moment, it was truly epic and you have to give it up to him, but he does seem kinda like a deuchbag, and his company was pretty lame. I dont have any problem with him selling out, and his part in skimovie 1 was classic. "That idiot cant drive a snow machine"
Feb 16 2006 1:12PM
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SkierJulie
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when ripping on moseley, just remember, he has an olympic gold medal.and stop calling someone who wants to make some dough a sell out. it's just plain stupid. you're not calling dumont a sell out because he's still competing. but as much as i respect dumont because he is an amazing skier, he will never have the impact on skiing that moseley did.
Feb 16 2006 1:20PM
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lowtech
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mosley kinda sold out, but i'd prob do the same thing
Feb 16 2006 1:26PM
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shootr
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hahahahhahahah

This thread is classic. The whole idea of skiers "selling out" is absolutely ludicrous.
Skiers aren't inner city youths who have a talent and then exploit it to get out of the slums and forget their roots...

SKIERS ARE USUALLY AFFLUENT WHITE KIDS.

There is no "selling out" and "forgetting your roots" when your roots are in upper middle class suburbia.
Feb 16 2006 1:31PM
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snowbird4life
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you are an idiot


why do all the "cool" "superior" people on ns.com always say the cliche thing about skiers been rich and white

you arent cool for bringing that to our attension

we already know this, and who said anything about forgetting roots besides you?


just face it.... dropping the line about white rich kids is played

plus is had nothing to do with this thread.
Feb 16 2006 1:58PM
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shootr
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Snowbird,
Look around you at the resort, if you are not an affluent upper middle class WASP, you are a minority.
I did not say that ALL skiers were fitting of that description.

You may think I am an idiot, you are entitled to that opinion, however in the context of this discussion my statements are fitting.
Do you think that Simon Dumont will forget about his "peeps" in the upper-crust historic village of Bethel Maine?
I am sure that he will remain loyale to it's Mercedes and BMW driving denziens.
The same goes for Jonny M.. Tiburon California is far from an inner city. It is nestled nicely on a peninsula off San Fran Bay.

So please.. tell me how either of these two individuals are "selling out"?
Skiing in North America (snowbird included) does not have a legacy steming from the lower class. If we were in Scandanavia or Europe you might make that argument, but not over here.
Here skiing is big business, it has always been and will always be.
Feb 16 2006 3:02PM
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snowbird4life
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i dont think you are an idiot man.

all im saying is that this discussion was about him making decisions based on money instead of love for our sport.

do i think that is even a valid arguement???

FUCK NO i think the thread is pointless

but what i am saying is, im sick of people trying to remind us that we are all white and all doing pretty well in the pocket book, especially when him leaving his peeps and roots behind had NOTHING to do with the thread.

and come to alta and snowbird, check out the 20-30 demographic who skis a shitload..

i will ensure you they are NOT rich.
Feb 16 2006 3:33PM
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SHastatahoe
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IF MOSLEY DIDNT LOVE SKIING HE WOULDNT HAVE GOTTEN WHERE HE DID, AND DONE WHAT HE DID, MY GUESS IS THAT HE MADE IT BIG(GOLD MEDAL BIG) AND MADE A LOT OF MONEY OFF OF IT, BUT WHO WOULDNT WANT TO? NOW HE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO JUST RELAX ON A FAT PILE OF CASH AND SKI WHEN HE WANTS HOW HE WANTS, IF ANYTHING IT IS A TRUE SOLE SKIERS DREAM. I HAVE SEEN HIM SHRED BIG MOUNTAIN, PARK, AND MOGULS, HE KILLS IT, EVEN IF HE IS A DEUCHEBAG. I MEAN ITS LIKE ELTON JOHN, HE'S A FLAMING FAGGOT BUT HE MAKES SOME OF THE BEST MUSIC AROUND.
Feb 16 2006 3:51PM
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shootr
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Snowbird, rich they may not be the 20-30 demographic at Alta, but I rest assured that they are hardly poor. But I am sure you will try to convince me otherwise while you type away at your pentium 4 based PC with an LCD monitor while listening to music on your Bose surround sound system that your demographic is monetarily challenged. Selling out is about comprimising ones integrity for financial gain. How does that work when people like Jonny M and Simon both could have made more money following the career paths of most of their peers? Instead they chose to ski, which was their passion and have turned that passion into a career, now when they are trying to maximize their earning potential at said career they suddenly have questionable morality??
Thus right from the beginning they have shown that their decisions are mostly based on their "love of the sport" rather than financial gain.
What I would like to know is why it pains you so greatly to acknowledge that skiing as a whole is an activity catered to the wealthy?

I embrace the fortune that I have to be able to ski, even though it means that I must have at least a moderate amount of affluence. What I do about this though is to donate my gear almost every year to individuals who don't have the ability to buy new gear.
Every spring I will see someone skiing on straight skis or old beat up rentals that they have bought second hand and I will offer them my gear.

Oh and please don't lecture me about how poor the 20-30 somethings are in your area as EVERY major resort has its own collection of seasonal transients who work minimum wage jobs to be on the hill.
Most of them are slumming it from their suburbanite upbringings.
Feb 16 2006 4:36PM
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rodenski5
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Neither Moseley nor Dumont sold out. There is a different between "selling out" and "making some money." Selling out is when you change what you are doing to make more money. When an artist or group changes their music because their label tells them they have to or because it will make them more popular, that is selling out.

If you put a Target sticker on your skis, and then continue to act the same and ski the same as you always have, how the fuck is that selling out? That's called "being the man" because you are making a lot more cash and you did almost nothing.

Johnny Moseley pretty much single-handedly revolutionized mogul skiing with his 360 and corked 7. So what if, after his career is over, he does some stuff for MTV and whatnot. He was a major factor in getting the Icer Air together, a big news item that brought a lot of exposure to our kind of skiing.
Feb 16 2006 5:06PM
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snowbird4life
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dont be a douche, i never said i didnt have money.

i never had an outcry that our sport wasnt rich. i simply stated that i am fucking tired of being told this. are you cool are you hardcore for telling us were stuck up rich kids. i was just stating that kids at alta are not all elitest. just kids scrapping by so they can ski and do what they love


my arguement really wasnt even about selling out, it was about how its IN OUR FACE that we are rich. and you are no cooler because you tell us this.

im sick of people stating the obvious

and well you seem to be getting all angry and putting words in my mouth so im done trying to get my point across.
Feb 16 2006 6:37PM
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