Hamas.....wow.....

haha..democracy isn't working as well as they thought.

just nuke the fuckers.

I seriously dont really care about israel and am sick of hearing about it

yea the worlds pretty much coming to an end. looks like the miyans were right about apocalypse in 2012

didn't palestine always want to destroy israel?

a lot of them do, but they have to pretend like they dont or noone in the international community will help them.

"Recognising Israel is not on the agenda either now."
haha as if Israel is longing to be recognised by the great nonexistant nation of palestine.

This is a very personal issue to me as I have family in Israel many of whom are in or have served in the military and whose lives have been directly effected by palestinian terrorism. I am sympathetic to the palestinians who want a peaceful solution and think they should have their own state but I agree that dealing with Hamas is completely unnacceptable. They are terrorists who want only to destroy israel and any political activities they engage in are purely strategic.

Im sick of hearing how much they like to blow innocent civilians up. I'd be more concerned about Iran and their crazy ass dictator right about now.

seriously, denying the occurence of the holocaust is just...i don't even know.

its not exactly a holocaust, and im not denying anything....what?

er, i was talking about that iranian nutjob you referred to. apparently, he and his government deny that the holocaust ever happened. in fact, they formed a committee to investigate whether or not it happened.

Yeah and jewish people invented tornados

http://www.cnn.com/video/player/player.html?url=/video/politics/2006/01/26/sot.bush.hamas.cnn



isn't the guy behind the microphone supose to have a clue?

the iranian pres is just spouting that stuff to try and get the hard line islamists up in arms in support of him. prior to his election, there was/still is to a degree a trend of liberlization. this comes into direct conflict with his vision for iran as an islamic republic. hes just tying to counteract the student/liberlization/secular movement that was gaining a foothold in the country. i mean, hes pretty wack, im not denying that, but i think most of his rediculous statments are for show more than anything

as for hamas, theyre the only ones in palestine that have the means to provide social services for the people there. its unfortunate that theyve got this militant wing that has on occaision enjoyed blowing up israelis. but really, it should come as no supprise that since the demise of arafat, hamas has become the more legitimate political body in the eyes of the palestinian people.

i dont know that the idea of non negotiation is the best, but after blowing up their leader with a missle a few years ago, theyre probably not thrilled on the US either. if theyre the ruling majority though, somethings going to have to change. maybe this chance at legitimacy for hamas will inspire them to move away from their illigitimate terror activities, and focus on more state based solutions to the problems amongst their people. lets hope thats the case anyways.

the us is put in a pretty bad situation because of this. either we intervene and go against everything we say we are fighting for in the middle east by not accepting the outcome of democracy, or we can stay true to our beliefs and let a terrorist organization do what it likes, which will most likely mean the dissolving of the israeli state.

either way, something bad will come out of this. imagine the uproar in iraq if we intervene when the hamas won a democratic election legitimately. We would look like we only support democracy if our side wins, which i refuse to believe is the case.

^^ dude this is how it really works...just as US support dictators that are on your side (arabia) but Hamas did won cause they are the only one who are doing things for the palestinian they are creating jobs and everything that's why they won, not because they want to destroy Isreaeli. Palestinian wants to live in peace now and that's a majority but they don't want to die while doing it.