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Keep us out of the Olympics
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I was thinking, perhaps we shouldn't try to get into the Olympics.
I think this would ruin it for us. Its going to take this sport from being people liking to screw around on snow to some anal retentive regulated "sport." We would have to impose the very regulations that disgust us (racing and bumps). We hate regulation, and this would require us imposing it on ourselves,
Can you imagine the day you need FIS approved twins? Do you really want to see Tanner Hall's face on your Wheaties? Do you really want newschool skiing marketed by anything other then ski companies?
Fuck No!
We got something good going, don't fuck it up.
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yea it would be a lot less steezier, though i could never see freestylers wearing a speed suit and in a goofy ass colored spyder team jacket with sponsors all over it. it would be nice to have something else to be in that is televised. your right though, it would take a lot out of the sport.
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Don't you get all the shit that getting into the Olympics would entail, we hate?
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yes! and continue to keep our athletes poor and don't expose skiing to anyone!!!woo! all in the name of being core!!!
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did snowboarding in the olympics ruin it?
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As far as keeping our athletes poor, sorry I disagree.
If your a sponsored athlete, you can't really complain when your getting paid to ski. We a sickened by some Yankee's 8 million dollar contract, why shouldn't we have been sickened when Bode Miller took a million to ride Rossi for one year. If your sponsor is paying you enough to live off of, you should be happy. You don't need a million dollars to do what you love.
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its kinda like this
when your a 13 year old who plays guitar, you want to be in a "punk rock band" that is completly underground, and you wanna live a really x-core punk rock life with sex drugs and rock and roll, but then you get older and your living the life you dreamed of and you relise its not that great and it really sucks, and suddenly, it hits you, and you think "maybe it would be nice to go mainstream so that I can make some money doing what I love" SO then you turn into fallout boy, or good charolet, and are rich.
so skiing is just like that....ITs cool to have it underground and stuff, but your only a 15 year old so no matter how big/small freeskiing is, it wont effect you even tho you think it does. But when your Tanner Hall trying to earn money, it would be really, really nice to be able to go to olympics and get sponsors and make a little bit more money so you dont have to eat out of trash cans. And in case you didnt know, most freestlye skiers who are pro dont make any money really.
Im pretty sure nobody follows that.
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Nope, snowboarding was already ruined.
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i agree, i dont want too much of a regulated sport to participate in. i dont want it exposed to too many people either, because as it is, there is a lot of noobs around anyway
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I sort of get your point, but it comes down to morals. Do you we want our skiers pursuing it for money?
I hate to use Bode again, but when we thought he was skiing for the fun of it, most everyone liked him. When we learned he is doing it for the dollars, we lost respect for him.
Glen Plake on the other hand, who wouldn't want to be him? He pretty much embodies skiing. You can't like him. What has skiing paid him? Lots of great skiing, friends, but not rediculous cash.
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glen plake whored himself out to the Predator Store in auburn, NY. Its probably the funniest commercial of alltime
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Edit: You can't not like him.
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Snowboarding is still as sick as it always was, and as long as we have chill kids we can keep it the way it is. Let skiing pipe go into olympics and let it kill it, everyone will be in awe.
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its a tridition and thats all it will probably ever be, how would any one be able to put regulations skis?
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using tanner hall is probably the worst example you could have thrown out. why? jesus christ, he is sponsored by Oakley, yes, OAKfuckingKLEY, is a part owner of a ski company, and also sponsored by Red Bull. Do you REALLY think he has it that bad? because if so, you sir, are retarded.
PRo skiers make money...they just want more, just like everyone else.
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dude its not like freestyle skiing is sheltered, people know that some kids are crazy when it comes to skiing, the olympics would give freestyle skiing more coverage and get it more known. Their wouldnt be much new sponsers because freeskiing already has sponsers like Mountain Dew and so on, its not like the olympics would ruin our image.
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I dont get why everyone is so obsessed with expanding our sport and making it grow. I think its perfect the way it is. Its big enough that a site like this can exist, but small enough that were still unique and everyone isnt doing what we do. Do u really want freestyle skiing to go mainstream? That would suck. If u said to someone i play soccer theyd be like sweet...so does every other 9 year old in america, but when u say that u freeski? theyre like what teh fuck, its unique and cool, and theres no reason to continually seek expansion that can only lead to overcommercialization and a whole lot of posers who just do us no good. This sport forces you to be involved and forces you to pursue it. Is there any other sport out there that has a website thats this sick? if there is i havent seen it. I would hate it if skiign went main stream and hope it stays the way it is
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yeah good point. tanner is pretty well off and jon olsson is rich as fuck
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Exactly! why do our atheletes need to be rich. Are you saying skiing would be in some way better if we were represented by a bunch of rich as douche bags who only care about their coorporate sponsorships and their private jet? Ur arguement seems to be pretty weak. Look at any other new sport. Surfing, skating, snowboarding, all these sports had a huge burst of commercialism and all of a sudden beaches were crowded with assholes, every 10 year old in america had a skateboard and 200 dollars worth of pads and couldnt kickflip (including me) and every mountain is jam packed with little punk ass dickheads on snowboards with bad lieutenant helmets bragging about badass their last 5050 to indy tap was. Skiing is way better because its not the cool thing to do so people only do it because they love it
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once you get a pro model ski u earn rights to money from them, so therefore..pollard makes $$ each time you buy a pair of elizabeths or a pair of prophets...t hall makes money when u buy anything from armada...vincent dorion with 4frnt...it continues...the answer to making money in freeskiing isn't the olympics..no fuck the olympics, the answer is to support the companies making the shit
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Her intentions are well founded, just the thing is, they aren't doing too shabby thats all.
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pollard just bought a house on a golf course near mount hood...think that house was cheap? fuck no
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^ Yeah alright, granted that wasn't a great point to make, but honestly if I was in the position of a pro skier, I'd want a piece of the pie that snowboarders and other athlete's are getting. I don't want skiing to be regulated. I don't want skiing to become completely structured. My comment on athletes being poor wasn't regarding the top paid athletes in this game, it's the ones that have to work their tails off at night, where as if they were snowboarding at the same level they probably would be able to focus a hell of a lot more on their passion and focus, rather than worrying about how to feed themselves.
But hell, I'm not even trying to say that this is what I believe. I like the way skiing is as well. But you have to look at it from other people's perspectives. I don't want corporate america to get involved and suck the soul out of skiing, but the bottom line is that it's not my opinion that anyone with authority gives a fuck about. It's the athletes.
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^ but u have to understand that those atheletes who are scrubbing dishes to fund their careers are what makes this sport great. Sure it sucks that theyre dirt poor and can barely afford to live, but they subject themselves to that. They do that because they love to ski and theyre the people who make our sport what it is. They love the sport enough to let it take over their lives and sacrifice everything so that can do it. If there was money in it there would be people who were doing it not for the sport, but for the money, and that would ruin everything
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man the olympics would be great for this sport, I mean yes we have to be wary of the FIS involvement, but I honestly cant see the FIS actually taking over our sport like it did in the past, to much stuff has changed. Skiers deserve this chance and while more exposure will definately lead to more gapers in the park it will help progress the indusrty to the point that snowboarding is at now, and i honestly have no problem with that
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Dude, Shawn White is doing pipe in the Olympics this year, do you really think it will hurt his ability to be a pro snowboarder, stay "core" or do X-Games, etc? Of course not, he will continue to enjoy all the benefits of his pro snowboarder career as well as get a chance to be an Olympian and expose his talents to a much broader audience than ever before. That's how it could be for skiers too.
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No.
I wasn't expressing my individual feelings towards this. I was expressing what I think the athletes probably feel.
I think you need to understand that sometimes people don't feel the need to express their own individual feelings, as they feel it's more important for other opinions to be heard at that time. As it is in this thread, I did not see anyone speaking on behalf of the athletes that would like skiing in the olympics, so I offered an opinion. Not entirely my own, as it is not entirely what I believe, but I felt it was important to be mentioned.
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yea...and when was the last time Pollard won a comp? i'm stayin out of this one i'm just throwin it out there
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If anyone knows how the FIS or USSA work right now, they would not want skiing in the olympics. Its fucking bullshit, from judging to the way the events are carried out. Its totaly not what freeskiing is about. Its the athletes choice to be a pro skier, and Im sure that most of them are happy being what they are. They get paid to ski. If it wasn't what they wanted, they would probably be in some office. If you want more money to ski, then don't go in to freeskiing. I don't think we should give up the identity of our sport just so skier can make more money. Its their choice, and I'm sure they are happy doing it.
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Do you really want skier's jibbing huge VISA signs right after the McDonalds commercial and before the OC? Thats how most "extreme sports" are broadcasted. Along with day time slots on TV.
Screw selling out the sport (of course there will always be those who don't blah blah blah). Especially because selling it is just selling us short.
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no offense to shaun white, but he is a sell out as is hannah teter
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The athletes making more money bit is total bullshit. Jon just moved to Monaco for tax reasons (according to SBC Skier.) Tanner makes a fucking killing along with all the other top names. The people farther down the ladder aren't going to be HUGE sponsorship deals at the Olympics. And I highly doubt Tanner would sport a TIDE logo on his helmet, no matter what he says. Basically, if you're in it to get rich, you're not in it for the skiing.
Secondly, the whole freeskiing movement was a reaction AGAINST the FIS. Most of the people that started the whole thing quit the structured disciplines because they hated the shitty rules and regulations that were imposed on them. Everyone's always bitching about the judging at the X-Games and how everything's spin to win and TAnner got jipped or whatever. To get into the Olympics rules are going to be placed on style and their will, inevitably be the "right style" which nobody can agree on.
I think everyone should just go ski pow.
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yeah alright, i'm entirely into this whole "not doing the olympics" deal now... yes. I'm very much convinced.
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Not that I necessarily disagree with you, but there are plenty of people who don't want to expose skiing to anyone.
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^The mountains are getting a little crowded. At least until the economy tanks...
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The thing with if this really starts mainstream, I'm not sure how good that would be for skiers. Company's outside the sport would only sponsor the top skiers. So I think this could make it even tougher for the up and comer's.
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I don't see what the problem is with getting sponsored if you're able to win gold on the olympics... Also u'll be able to earn more money! Isn't it great that you can make from you passion your job??
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Anyone else think the whole, 'keep freeskiing 'underground', so it's just for us' thing is a little selfish?
I love the way skiing is at the moment as well, but at the same time I'd encourage anyone I know to start, because it's awesome. If loads more people get enjoyment out of something because it's in the olympics then I don't think that's wrong. That said I don't want mountains to get covered in Macdonalds advertising either.
I don't think freeskiing needs the olympics but it wouldn't ruin it either.
As for the cash issue, pro skiiers get enough cash, I'm willing to work to ski all the time if they're getting paid to ski that should be enough. It's all about the love for the sport.
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jflo453 is on the money with everything. I dont give two shits about exposure. I show upto my hills everyday and my jumps are there. I dont want 200+ more little shitbags showing up, snaking me, waiting in line for rails, etc. Same thing with surfing. After gay ass movies like Blue Crush came out, every little kook in the world bought a board and are now crowding the lineups and making for harzardous conditions. I dont want skiing to become the next fad like rollerblading did. That will ruin it all.
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Olympics are rad try to get in it's the worlds best sporting event
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no they wouldn't you are a terd
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we really dont need a regulated judging system, it slows down progression
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