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Disappointed in the USFO course

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renojames
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First of all, picnic tables = lame. Look how wide they are...why would they put such an amateur feature in a comp of this calibur? Because of the landing, you can't even try to use the bench parts for a press or something. Also they are exactly the same...what's the point of two? They even both lead to the same thing, a simple down rail with no gap or anything. The flat-down is the only decent feature of the rail section, and that's pretty stock as far as comps go. I'm also tired of seeing comps put all the rails up top and all the jumps at the bottom, they should mix it up more.

The jumps look pretty nice, however. Can't really argue with those.
Jan 17 2006 9:22PM
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JesseWest
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it looks so quick from the first rail to the second therefore someone would need to land pretty money and be a pretty smooth skier to stop a dope ass winning trick off the first rail and carry into the next with a dope trick to throw as well. i dont mind it at all. its a test for sure.
Jan 17 2006 9:28PM
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switched
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I disagree. Any pro can pull sick stuff on sick features, but the top dogs can pull dope tricks off of icy snowballs on flat ground. So this park will just make the competitors work extra hard to make themselves look sick.
Jan 17 2006 9:28PM
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switched
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well said
Jan 17 2006 9:30PM
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renojames
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So you'd rather see someone try to scrape together a good run off boring features than let loose on a sick course where they can let their creativity show?
Jan 17 2006 9:35PM
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STAUSS
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i think it will be cool to see what happens
Jan 17 2006 9:37PM
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t3shellvenom
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in all honesty id prefer seeing a nice smooth switchup or a sick nose or tailpress on that picnic table than anything done on a 6 kink.
Jan 17 2006 9:46PM
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Edward.
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you can see so much sick stuff on the picnic tables dude, theyre gonna be doing like 630s onto that and stuff
Jan 17 2006 9:47PM
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TheQuailman
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wide tables r gunna let competitors spin like hell, more then they would on a roller coaster "s" see-saw rail thtas 20 ft. high
Jan 17 2006 9:47PM
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switched
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No, I would rather see the pros pull sick stuff off of features that make them work hard and proves they are that much better than people like you.
Jan 17 2006 9:51PM
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renojames
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That table is like three feet wide, spinning onto it takes no skill. As long as you don't go way sideways and you keep your feet under you, you will probably be able to ride it out smoothly. Plus, the takeoff is set up so you basically ride onto the rail, so if anyone is doing a 630 on without spinning like a top, they will have to land three quarters of the way down the thing.

I'm not saying they should put crazy gnarly wicked insano stuff in. A handrail (d-f-d) would be good, or something like that up rail in Shanghai Six so you can do a big spin off, or a trap, or a c, or something with a gap in front so you can spin on and still grind most of the rail. A quarterpipe, a hip, a wallride, a butter box; something, anything besides wide-ass box to standard rail to three jumps. Come on, how unoriginal is that?

I'm not trying to say that the Open sucks or Vail sucks or the comp is going to be shitty. All I'm saying is the course could be a little more inspired.
Jan 17 2006 10:03PM
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4frntSkier
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im not big on the rail section
the course for w.e. the new video on skipass.com is so sick i love gagniers run
Jan 17 2006 10:03PM
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AustinRoss
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In my opinion I think picnic tables are a damn good idea. For three reasons:
1) Butters, now they can butter onto (and off of) the feature.
2) Presses, lipside nose press backside 270 anyone? This will be the time for the nose and tail presses to shine.
3) Spins On, spinning onto a picnic table setes u up for a massive potential of switch ups and more time to set up for pretzel like combinations.
3) No 1 foots, sorry but it has to be said, without a "bar" the one foots arent all that impressive.

So there you go...
Jan 17 2006 10:09PM
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Matty.
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So you are saying you would rather see a press done on a picnic table than a 6 kink...right...
Jan 17 2006 10:09PM
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JesseWest
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yea to be honest i am gettin sicka the whole box material thingy thats goin on everywhere but it will make for some insane spinning. good luck all you luckies that are entering, wish i could take part
Jan 17 2006 10:26PM
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ISkiSwitch
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Picnic Tables are a dope idea. And for the kid who alked about icy snowballs, dude, those are so much fun to launch off of, or ollie and pull a 180, all the charilift kids are like, wtf mate?
Jan 17 2006 10:32PM
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skiierman
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In a comp. I think he means. Anyways, I'm really interested in finding out what they throw down on those things.
Jan 17 2006 10:33PM
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eheath
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A little birdy told me that the jumps are smaller than last year...
Jan 17 2006 10:34PM
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wrenegade
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i agree with whoever said that they should split the rail features and the jumps apart. 3 big jumps in a row are a lot easier to line up than switching from rails to jumps. I hate that Olenick and Sammy are planning all switch 10s. Spin to Win is for big air, not slopestyle. They ought to have more difficult or creative jumps like step-ups, channel gaps or whatever. And hey, if you can pull a switch 10 over a sick channel gap, you just proved to the judges that you are that much sicker.

And don't get me started on the rails. You could find those in pretty much any terrain park, c'mon, get creative.
Jan 17 2006 10:44PM
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nychka
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its seems your good friends with these little birdies


I want to see someone go straight up the picnic table and do a backflip off, now that would be cool
Jan 17 2006 10:50PM
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UFOsarereal
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hahaha, as much as the whole spin to win thing is hated, who doesnt want to see someone go left sw10 to right sw10 to sw1260? thats just pure dominance.
Jan 17 2006 11:00PM
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MattMcGinnis
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considering all of my knowledge of this course came from the first post in this thread.... the rail section sounds lameeeee. i dont care who can 630 onto a table. its a god damn table man, how hard could it be? just spin real fucking fast, your skis could point in any direction when you land, and since the thing is a table, you wont fall (assuming you land on your feet) if someone 630 on sw up 450 out, it would mean nothing to me.
Jan 17 2006 11:04PM
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eheath
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https://www.newschoolers.com/ns3/web/content/news.php?news_id=1036&

uh yeah
Jan 17 2006 11:06PM
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ineedarealname
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i think its sick, way more creative then last year
Jan 17 2006 11:48PM
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Ender
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yea kinda lame, i guess we'll just have to see how it plays out
Jan 17 2006 11:53PM
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J.D.
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Meeeeee

Huck fests are lame

No one should need to spin over 540 to win a slope comp unless they want to. Not having a sw right 10 in your bag shouldn't auto-disqualify you from the podium. Unfortunately... it does.

I agree with the channel gap suggestion, that would have been a good feature. The course is fine. It's just not amazing.
Jan 18 2006 12:31AM
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WONTON
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id like to see a mogul field in there
Jan 18 2006 12:37AM
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ry.will
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i agree the course is lame, its all boxes when it should be all rails, to really seperate people you need rails, anyone can throw shit on boxes so the jumps will seperate people, thus people are gonna need to throw the big spinnaz, im psyched to see cab right 10s and cab 12s in runs, thats crazy, as long as its pretty steezy, which comin from people like sammy and pete o, it should be.
Jan 18 2006 12:41AM
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Ryno
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put some crazy shit like a hip, that crazy thing Gangier destroys in the comp n france, a wallride/....
Jan 18 2006 12:42AM
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Ryno
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btw that 2nd jumps has got some hangtime.
Jan 18 2006 12:43AM
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concept311
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the tables where used at the Honda Sessions at vail last weekend. SO they had a bunch of rails to pick from iam sure they know what there doing when desgining and building a course. would have been cool to see the X bow rail back out or the long rainbow(truth.com) rrail last year.
Jan 18 2006 1:18AM
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Ghost82nd
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they cant have all these crazy feature everyone wants because then only a few people would be able to throw something and actaully land it therefore making the contest a complete joke. i love the picnic tables and the reason theres two of em is cause it would be damn hard for someone to hit the right table and cut over to the left rail with enough speed to hit it. i think the rails could be a little more challenging like said before...an up rail so they can spin off but to flat rails...not cool. theres only so much a park designer can do for a contest. it has to be something that most of the competitors can hit so its not a contest full of bails
Jan 18 2006 1:27AM
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wrenegade
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absolutely not. that truth rail was fucking stupid. you could hardly trick on or off that thing, all you could do pretty much was try and grease it.
Jan 18 2006 1:27AM
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Kendo
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anyone else think that someone is going to gap from the picnic tables to one of the rails, i know its a huge gap but i have seen wierder stuff
Jan 18 2006 1:51AM
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whashisface
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This conversation comes up every year for the X-games and the US open. "The features are too easy and I could hit that"
Jan 18 2006 4:15AM
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shea.
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yes, but the easire they are, the more switchups and 450's we see
Jan 18 2006 4:28AM
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scofield
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not a big fan of anything, although the dynastars and volkls preform ridiculously..

good thing i got my Defi Sotecs ;-)
Jan 18 2006 7:25AM
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scofield
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wtf? how did this post in the entirely wrong thread?
Jan 18 2006 7:27AM
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funkdoc
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sorry guys, but box in a comp mean nothing. rails are more harder and rprznt youre rails skillz
Jan 18 2006 7:36AM
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lechef
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they definetely should have put some rail, not only box......
Jan 18 2006 8:51AM
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Ghost82nd
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dont ever talk again...ever.
Jan 18 2006 5:25PM
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rachael575
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show pics!
Jan 18 2006 5:27PM
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*DrewT*
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if they had only rails nobody would be doing good stuff on them because it isnt consistent enough. Sombody like Sammy Carlson going out there with tons of potential to do well can't risk doing somthing on a rail he can only get half the time because then he'd be out in one of the early rounds, his sponsors would get pissed and he ruined the comp for himself. As for the first post in the thread saying they should mix the rails in with the jumps... HAHAHAHA if they did that how would you ever get enough speed to hit the jumps after? do you think they have an unlimited amount of space so they can have another 100 foot inrun into more jumps?
Jan 18 2006 5:33PM
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skier_boy26
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its pretty much the second biggest newschool comp in north america, and certainly the biggest newschool open, period. so why shouldnt it be more advanced?


that course is super basic, and pretty lame. What makes it seem even more lame is when you see what the course was like in Tignes. It wasn't that much different, but it definitely had more vareity. I really dont see the point of having two picnic tables side by side. It'll be mega monotonous. The jumps are just jumps. They look nice and well built but nothing special. Last year the course was meh but this year it looks even more meh. And for being one the premiere events of the season, its lacking

Jan 18 2006 5:33PM
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MaineSkiBum
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I agree with the majority that it looks lame... but to me it doesn't look done either. It looks like this was a temporary setup. I don't know but maybe. Also I had a idea, Look at the rail section picture again, now think of it as a table top and instead of the first rails there is a kicker with a 30-40ft gap to the second set of down rails. now that would be sick!!! Imagine what Candide could do on that shit(corked 7's and shit)I mean thats progression, thats making the sport different, having shit you could die on.
Jan 18 2006 5:43PM
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Ghost82nd
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that kicker to rail idea would be sick
Jan 18 2006 5:46PM
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sampsihoyos
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i think the course looks way sick, the public park too is rediculous, im going up this weekend and im looking forward to it
Jan 18 2006 5:49PM
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