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Seth vicious at core center?
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to all you who have actually ridden these babies, how do they ride at core center?
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great for park. way too much tip dive for pow.
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faack...what do you suggest then?
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suggest for what? i don't even know what you want to do...
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core center=0, now TRUE center and great for park, but i ride them at +5, so great for everything.
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haha fuck true center.
but you are right about the fact that +5 kills everything.
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Si seinor, core center is pretty far back, 7.5 cm back from true center
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sick, thanks for the help
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for the record, the graph on the sidewall actually says "core center" at +7.5. also, the core center is actually at +9.5 from SOLE center (0) because the graph was and has been misprinted on the sidewall since they first started printing it back with the original SPs and PEs. think about this- "core center" implies that it's at the center of the core, not that it's 9.5cm BEHIND the center of the core.
anyway, mount them at +5 according to the graph.
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ok, so my skis are at the shop, and in case they are as stupid as me, the +5 five is gonna be off the graph...riiight?
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that really made no sence, im sure K2 wouldnt misprint stuff on the ski, "core center" is where the ski is the thinnest, and it IS 7.5 cm BEHIND true center. Oh yeah, and at "+7.5" it says TRUE CENTER.
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Now you've completely mind-fucked most everyone with that explanation.
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including me...which is why i had to ask =p
thanks for the help guys..and please share any more advice if you have any
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haha it is not BEHIND you fucktard. look at the fucking sidewall of your own damn skis. it's 7.5 cm in front of the midsole mark.
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ok, so plus five of core center then is correct
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no. plus five from the midsole mark.
just take them to the shop and tell them to mount at +5. they'll know.
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Ah shit, midsole=core center core center=true center, just trasnlate all of my posts in that and it will make sence.
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ok...well, hope so, considering in live on the middle right coast....thanks for the help again
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Have them mounted at +5 on the graph on the side of the ski. This is +5cm from midsole.
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For some reason i always thought core center was the mid sole? I was mislead, sorry for my retardness, but +5 is the best, if u plan to do park tho i would go with +6 or +7
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Midsole is NOT the same as midsole.
Also, no need to go further forward than +5.
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midsole is 0
core center is +7.5
true center is +12
core center is money for park. +5 kills everything. adjust as needed.
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Now I'm the retard.
I meant to say: Misole is NOT the same as core center
I'm tired...
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yes its MIDSOLE not +5 from core center do u know how fuckin far forward that would be ahaha whoever said +7.5 means that in cm from core center is dreadfully mistaken vicious knows whats up listen to him.
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Isnt that the fugis??? im pretty sure true center is 7.5 on the vicous, i mean, im not totaly sure, but thats what i have been lead to believe.
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it's all K2s actually... madens, pes, fujatives, and seths.
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you're an idiot. do you ever visit the K2 forums? you should if you plan to tell people how to mount their K2s. why? because of stuff like this. Morrison told the boards that K2 has been misprinting the graphs on the skis. measure it yourself- he's correct. the graphs are printed 2 cm back from where they should be. the 0 mark is actually -2 from where it should be. this makes core center at +9.5cm from sole center (once again, using Seth's terminology- he's been doing this since before you were even a twinkle in your parents' eyes, so i trust he'd know what he's talking about).
as for our friend who has his skis in the shop, most shop techs have no idea this mistake was made and mount according to the graph.
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it is the case with both the fujative and vicious.
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Crazyfuck is completely right although explaining this usually creates mass confusion.
Just go by the graph and your shop and all involved should understand.
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even though it was posted above, i feel like this isn't clear.
midsole - 0
core - +7.5
true - +12
for made'n, vicious, pe, fuj....
I'm tired too.
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go to bed sleepyhead
your new name is nosleep
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that's the tip-to-tail length, Iggy, not the core length. the tip is slightly longer than the tail and you don't want to mount further forward that +9.5cm. to measure the core, simply measure the sidewall (except for on the Fujas, obviously). when i measured out my 179 PEs, the center of the tip-to-tail length was actually more like +11.
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I'm pretty sure the graph is placed the same on all K2 skis. I think +12 is true center for all K2's (the factory team skis).
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You really are a crazy fuck
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it is pretty funny that everytime this is brought up people seem to lack the mental capacity to be able to understand what it means.
even with Crazyfuck explaining it, the concept that the graph is off by 2cm shouldn't be something that difficult to understand.
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haha, because i can wrap my mind around this nonsense?
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Ha no you just go crazy!!! haha
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what? it's only 1:37 here! i'm not all that tired... ok, i'm fucking exhausted.
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LOL....
I'm trying to make it easier for people.
If you get people to try and actual figure out what the true center of the ski is they will fuck it up and their heads will explode.
it is just easier to pretend the graph isn't off and use the scale, because I said above, getting people to understand that the graph is off by 2cm is about as difficult as it is teaching women to drive.....
=)
only thing you have to make sure is that the scales are identical on each ski. I've seen pairs where they have been off by a few cm as well.
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shit... now you've opened an entirely new can of worms. the graphs might not even be the same from ski to ski!!! AAAAHHHHH!!!!! everyone go nuts and freak the fuck out!!!!!
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7 hours in 3 days....
my head hurts. last night was kind of rough.
It really needs to snow in CO. and not like this 3-5 inch crap.
Real Snow.
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lets all stop hatin so much on Eheath he made one small mistake no reason to hate.
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I would mount them complete center. unless your a pussy and dont ski pow backwards. fuckin vag
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