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30 foot clifs

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razvan
Posts: 309 - Karma: 8
i really wanna just huck a 30 footer but i dont know how
its pretty freeky
what should i do ... just try it or what
should i wear a helmet
and i usually ski w/my bag on
do i wear that too????????
hope u can help boys... the girls ...i donno if u can...and if u cam ...please help
thanx
Jan 10 2003 6:09PM
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Rogge
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have you ever dropped a cliff before? If not then start small and work your way up, you don't go for the biggest trick off the biggest hit in the park on the first day...make sure that you have plenty of stopping or turning room after the drop so IF you do fall you're not gonna slam into a tree or rock or retarded skier who should be appreciating the fact that you're hucking your nuts off a 30 footer. Personally, I like to pop a little bit because it keeps my body in a tucked controlled postion. Then when landing in powder (which i hope you're doing if it is a 30 footer) land a little bit leaning back almost like you're gettin off the chairlift so you wont roll down the mountain and fuck yourself up... Godd luck pal and huck your nuts








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Jan 10 2003 6:30PM
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rockymountainmilitia
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stop like 3 or 4 meters from the top of the cliff. if its a big cliff like a 30 or 40 footer. I suggest probing the landing first cause your gonna go quite far down into the snow and you don't want to land your ass on a rock. straight it from a few meters from the lip, pop, tuck and kkep your hands in from of you and extend your legs and stomp the landing. its good to be a bit backseat, your gonna get a spring affect and pop right back up to. ride away clean. all its takes is balls.
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Jan 10 2003 7:28PM
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UpDawg
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and remember, that when you hit a cliff, it's going to be over before you realize it...you wont be in the air for that long...maybe 2 seconds if you dont air out a long ways...like the other guy said, make sure you land in powder...if i were you i'd pick a cliff that has a nice slope for the landing...something maybe 40 degrees...not too steep, but not flat. also, KEEP YOUR HANDS IN FRONT OF YOU! otherwise, you'll be flailing all over the place, and you wont be able to concentrate on your landing...as well, VISUALIZE hitting the cliff, then do it...don't think about what could go wrong, think about sticking the landing. good luck, let me know how it goes
Jan 10 2003 8:29PM
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l_KeViN_l
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check the landing, go in with a bit of speed, bend your knees, spot your landing, extend and absorb, and ski away from it, good luck man


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Jan 10 2003 10:16PM
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Nine_Milla_Killa
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30 footers feel like 50 footers when you are at the top. I cant imagine dropping a 50 footer!



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Jan 10 2003 10:20PM
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LastEmperor
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carry some speed off it so you can ski out, otherwise u may hit ur face with ur knee or just get stuck in a bombhole. then again, u may go tumbling down the hill with speed so who knows

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Jan 10 2003 10:28PM
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Nik
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if you wait for good snow, it will be fine. just get some speed and huck. its tons of fun, you'll want to do it over and over again.

DAMN GLOBAL WARMING!
Jan 11 2003 3:20AM
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razvan
Posts: 309 - Karma: 8
thanx guys im gonna wait for some good pow
thanx 4 all da advice

Jan 13 2003 5:06PM
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snomaster
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i wanna huck a 30 footer... anyone know any safe airs of this size in the east?? anywhere?

*all hail to the mighty gods of snow*
Jan 13 2003 5:15PM
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tahoeskier
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land way backseat or youllsmash your face on your knee. 30 footers are about where you have to start bombholing your landings
Jan 13 2003 5:19PM
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alpentalik
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they built a thirty foot cliff in our terrain park...its sick


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Jan 13 2003 8:55PM
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Baker
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If you go off a 30 footer with any amount of speed, your going to drop atleast 40 ft., so i suggest you go off of something a little smaller to start out with. And whoever said that you'll land before you know it was incredibly right. Its all instinct. You'll be lucky if you get a conscious thought in before you land.



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Jan 14 2003 12:05AM
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Pipe_Munky
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i hate being stuck in ontario! the biggest cliff i could find is 15ft depending on the amount of snow



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Jan 14 2003 12:11AM
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powho
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Just huck it!!!!!!!!!

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Jan 14 2003 1:25AM
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corked180
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dont listen to fools that say its complex. just scout it out, have some people there to pump u up and just go off it and u will naturally do a little hip check.

Jan 14 2003 3:36AM
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snomaster
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if i only had the terrain. about the biggest one that I have found is under the skyeship @ killington and the landing is so small then flat.

*all hail to the mighty gods of snow*
Jan 14 2003 7:33AM
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lineskier10
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is there really one under the skyeship at killington, the biggest one ive found is a 10 footer of to the side of some tree trail at okemo, how big is the one at killington cause i wanna huck it for sure, and does anyone else know of any other good cliffs in VT that you dont have to hike to get to
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Jan 14 2003 9:17AM
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ductapeboy
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how big is that cliff on tuckemans in the winter? that thig has to be more that 20. and it has a great landing....


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Jan 14 2003 11:12AM
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lineskier10
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thats nice, i need to go to tuckermans, have you hucked it or seen anyone do it
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Jan 14 2003 11:14AM
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CMUSkiFreak
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when i was at killington like 6 years ago i hit one that seemed huge it was probably only 15 ft but was awesome for a first cliff hit, i remember it being off to the left hand side on one of the runs on bear mt i think thats what its called i remember you had to go up the side and through some trees then i had to duck some poles meant to deter people. any body know the one i am talking about. i think that run also had some moguls a little on farther down the run.
Gotta love the midwest
Jan 14 2003 11:21AM
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ductapeboy
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I have only been to tuckermans in the summer... and there was a giant crevas at the bottum of the clif.... and the snow was hard like rocks.... hmm.


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Jan 14 2003 2:30PM
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snomaster
Posts: 3344 - Karma: 5,748
the hit that you speak of at killy is on devil's fiddle and it isn't very big, still fun though. the headwall of tucks is a different size depending when you are there. i know that paul cotter has back flipped it. then he told me everyone went nuts and he didn't get why.
duh. he's sick.

*all hail to the mighty gods of snow*
Jan 14 2003 2:57PM
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swizzbeatz
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hey im a skiboarder, i wanna know if there is much of a difference on cliff drops with the less surface area then a ski. I found a small cliff probably 15-20 feet i wanna hit up on 99 ninety at the canyons.

Jan 14 2003 5:42PM
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snomaster
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difference?? um, yeah... probably.
come on! of course it's gonna be better with skis.
people in here have a thing against skiboarders so be careful.

and in the meantime get some skis, u'll be able to huck way bigger and have way more control in pow and be able to take shit with speed.

*all hail to the mighty gods of snow*
Jan 14 2003 5:56PM
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Itsbackfliptime
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skiboarding would definitely be harder. I would suggest using skis for anything that big


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Jan 14 2003 6:02PM
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R.Fahey
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wow, the biggest cliff i have evre seen here in indiana was like 3 feet. it was fromm the rain movin the dirt and causing erosion.
Jan 14 2003 10:45PM
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huckster989
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The best part is when you go off the cliff you stop thinking and your body just takes over. Its the only time in my life that i've done anything where you are toatlly removed from your mind. Its great
the magazine is called 'POWDER' cool! - my stupid non-skiing friend
Jan 14 2003 11:57PM
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swizzbeatz
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meh, i dont really care about skis or skiboards just as long as im riding im happy.
Jan 15 2003 5:04AM
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heliskiboy691
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yo man i have a couple of tips. I have been to alta which i think is a very good mountain for doing cliffs and stuff beacsue their is a shit laod of back country i belive right behind jackson hole.

1. You must check out your landing my freind cracked his tail bone broke his nose and cracked his motherships in half on a 10 ft cliff so make sure thier are no rock.

2. Ski with freinds that dont take no for an awnser. When they jump it youl jump it eventually trust me

3. just go for it man. It looks much bigger than it really is when u look at a cliff your like o its not that big but when ure on top of it the fuckers huge. This is true beacuse ure adding extra hight to it beacsue your eyes are on top of your body.

4. Cliffs are mad fun and not so dangerous in powder..

5. Make sure you dont loose your ski if you crash and burn thats happend to me adn i had to look for it for an hour and last dont put your pole sraps on.. when u land in the back seat ure pole can get stuk and you can dislocate the elbow.

JUST HUCK IT!!!!
Jan 15 2003 6:57PM
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Rossiscratch
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The only 30 ft hits in the east that i can think of off the top of my head is at Jay Peak, Smugglers Notch, and Bretton Woods.




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Jan 15 2003 7:41PM
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snomaster
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where, where, and where...
i ski jay lots (well a few times a year on good days) and huck shit off the summit chutes and ridge and in the woods
but there is nothing that i would consider big

*all hail to the mighty gods of snow*
Jan 16 2003 12:37AM
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goinbig6
Posts: 188 - Karma: 10
as someone was saying u wont be in the air that long. gravity accelerates at 9.8 m/s. So the 1st sec youll be going 9.8 m/s then the 2nd sec youll be going 19.6 m/s then 29.4 m/s and it will continue on until u hit terminal velocity, which u wont have to worry about on a 30ft cliff. Make sense?
Jan 16 2003 12:51AM
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UpDawg
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right, but not so much...9.8 meters/second is a physical CONSTANT for the motion of solid matter...you always figure the weight of objects in newtons by multiplying kilograms by 9.8, and if you had to factor in more numbers, it would be much more complicated. you move 9.8 meters in ONE SECOND...over a course of two seconds, you'll have moved 19.6 meters, but your speed will still be 9.8 meters per second.
Jan 16 2003 2:19AM
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Nik
Posts: 542 - Karma: 11
nah, its not that complicated. a simple graph would solve this. just graph y=9.8x^2, and find when the area under the graph equals 10 (about 30ft), and where that line is on your x axis is the amout of time you are in the air. the key here is 9.8m/s^2, not 9.8m/s. its damn close to 1.45 seconds. i'm such a dork.

DAMN GLOBAL WARMING!
Jan 16 2003 3:52AM
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snomaster
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acceleration is what you are talking about guys, that's why it's 9.8 m/s^2. which can be stated as 9.8 meters per second per second.

*all hail to the mighty gods of snow*
Jan 16 2003 8:31AM
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CMUSkiFreak
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i never thought there would be other math/science majors on this site!! lol
Gotta love the midwest
Jan 16 2003 10:43AM
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goinbig6
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which is another way of saying that gravity accelerates at 9.8 m/s. Gravity doesnt have a constant speed just a constant accerleration. The more u fall the faster u go, which shows ur accelerating and your not going a constant speed. Yes wind drag does play a part, but for a common object such as a skier with very little air resistance they will accelearte at 9.8 m/s. And yes at 2 secs you will be moving faster at 19.6, because that longer u fall the faster u go as i said before.
Jan 16 2003 5:38PM
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UpDawg
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wait a second here...ok, so what is this 9.8 meters per second talk then? I though that the constant speed of an opject in motion is 9.8 meters per second...thats why if you drop a boulder and a small rock out the window at the same time they'll both hit the ground at the same time...im confused.
Jan 16 2003 11:20PM
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goinbig6
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ok ill try to explain. Gravity doesnt have a constant speed. It has a constant acceleration. If u drop two rocks they will land at the same time because neither has wind resistance and gravity is a force pushing them down. But when they are falling the wont stay the same speed. They will accelerate and go faster as the go farther down. The acceleration speed is 9.8 m/s, which means each second they will go 9.8 m/s faster until they reach terminal velocity. So one sec is 9.8 m/s, two secs is 19.6 m/s, three secs is 29.4 m/s and so on and so forth.
Jan 16 2003 11:48PM
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BeckaSki
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They hit the ground at the same time because they do accelerate at the same rate. Which is the 9.8 m/s^2. So then they'll contine to accelerate as they drop until they get to terminal velocity which is when their friction and drag counteracts the acceleation (usually wicked fast speeds).

And since I was bored, I figured that if you drop a 30 footer, you're going to land at like 40.8 mph after being in the air for 1.8 seconds.
Jan 16 2003 11:50PM
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goinbig6
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I think what your thinking of is the law that says an object in motion will stay in motion unless a force is distilled upon it. Which is saying basically that if u roll a ball it will continue to roll at the same speed unless u stop it or move it faster. Although if u try this at home it wont work because of friction. But i think thats what ur thinking of.
Jan 16 2003 11:51PM
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Nik
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i thought i coved all this. you guys make things too complicated.

DAMN GLOBAL WARMING!
Jan 17 2003 1:54AM
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UpDawg
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boy i actually learned something i can apply to real life now! amazing..and to think it was on ns.com
Jan 17 2003 3:37AM
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