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Gah! Choosing skis is a pain in the neck! :)
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Alright.
I'm going to be doing about 95% all-mountain. I'm in the northwest, so the snow ranges from fluffy to wet and heavy with a fair bit of ice when it hasn't snowed in a while.
I'll rarely head into a terrain park this season, but may hit up a halfpipe on occassion... thus the remaining 5%.
Of that all-mountain use it'll be about 50/50 on and off piste. I'll want to be stable at speed and be able to hold a line on edge well. Enough power through the crud, and enough float in the powder to be fun, but not so much that I have to sacrifice fun on the hardpack.
The reason I'm looking for a twin is because I want to be able to ride switch, and intend to hit up some cat lips and kickers pretty consistently.
I'm going completely crazy with all the options. I'm looking to spend less than $400 new or used, and would prefer closer to $300 if possible.
I'm open to suggestions. My latest inclination is the Line Skogen from last year, but honestly I have no idea.
There are almost no shops in my area to check out skis let alone demo them. The only skis I can demo are Salomon Foils in a 160-something and the K2 PE's in a 169.
One last thing why in god's name does every sales person try and fit me on a 165-170 when I tell them I'm 5'9" 165-170? I've been skiing for two decades and figured a 172-178 would be a better range.
THANK YOU! :)
-Nathan
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spend 600 bucks and get the seth vicious's
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I just don't have the cash for that this season.
I recently left my job and have been doing contract work on and off. It's giving me plenty of time to ride, run, and ski... but I have to be stingy because I never know how big a gap is going to be between getting paid. :)
Cheers!
-Nathan
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Seth Vicious is insanely awesome, but expensive
Karmas are stiff with good pop, carve awesome, but expensive
Public Enemies are a bit softer, carve well, and are good in the park, $400 new
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If the Skogens are cheap get 'em. Pretty good ski from what you have described you need it for.
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Also check out the Pollard. Great for lots of stuff
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See if you can find some older Karmas for that price, they'd be perfect for you.
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What about atomic stomps? Last years would probably run about $400...sounds perfect for what he's doing
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skogens...i rode them for the first time today after getting mine mounted...best decision i have EVER! made
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and if this wont be used in the park get something around a 175-179.
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Well I just got back from a shop circuit... which was short because there are hardly any :) I swear there are more places to actually ski around here than there are places to buy skis.
The biggest problem I noticed with most of the twins is that they just lack any torsional reinforcement for the most part. K2 is using torsion box construction on the PE and perhaps other skis. I think that Volkl is doing the same on their twins, but other than that I have no idea who's doing what.
None of the Salomons impressed me in person. I futzed with the Foils and Guns. I gotta believe on the hard pack those things would be noodles. They look like great powder and park skis though.
I checked out Armadas and they're just too soft for my taste. Look like very well built skis, though again the tip and tail seem really torsionally soft.
There's no Line, Head, Rossi, 4frnt, 9thward etc. shops anywhere near me so I can't check out their sticks in person.
:) Decisions... decisions :)
-Nathan
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PEs would be a def good choice my man
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im telling you man....the skogens are great...and light too...
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If you want torsional rigidity, as I said above...check out the Atomic Tweak or Stomp...you wont be disappointed
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They definitely seem like a decent all-mountain setup. I'm hoping to be able to test them out on monday.
Those p-tex top sheets seem like a spectacularly bad idea to me though... I'd thing they'd get all kinds of digs and gouges in them from crossing your skis, having folks run over them in the lift line, and of course the every so lovely drive-by ski-pole-jab. :)
-Nathan
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Will do... :) Now to see about tracking some down. I'm sure this will be an exercise in frustration :)
Thanks!
-Nathan
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yea, stomps would be a very good ski for what you described
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Bear in mind I'm also going to be spending some amount of time in cakey crud snow... ie, frozen-over powder that's been tracked, and that wonderful heavy wet stuff that we get a lot of in the Cascades :) You know... the snow equivalent of mud :)
So it'd be nice if the ski was relatively maneuverable.
-Nathan
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Atomics rip in crud. In fact, that's where mine ski best.
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It just occurred to me that the Atomics are going to be foam-core... without the big titanium rails that are in my race skis to reinforce the foam I'm not sure how I feel about a foam core ski...
How are you're guys' setups holding up?
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