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Why do you need to "win" an argument about it? Personally, my belief in God is not only unthreatened by my lack of being able to defend it in an argument. The alternative, constantly trying to "win" debates about it, seems kind of insecure to me, actually, and it always has. The idea that belief in God NEEDS a victory over the physical evidence is, in my mind, harmful to the idea of spirituality, additionally because, as I say, faith is defined by belief in something for which we HAVE no firm evidence... in spite of this, belief must persist. That, in my mind, is true faith. And this: " you don't need faith i him existing, you could however, still need faith to believe everything entailed by the Bible." remains a harm to faith in that sense, because the existence of God is a big thing to believe in.
"A christian cannot share his faith with someone and expect them to believe what he believes. He must offer some sort of proof. Likewise, you cannot offer faith in evolution and the big bang theories and expect people to believe that. To pursuade anyone to believe what you believe, you'll have to offer up some sort of proof.
Of course, I cannot see God with my own eyes, therefore I can never be sure that God exists without faith. Advocates of the big bang theory and macro evolutionists never actually seen it happen(the big bang). They will also have to rely on some sort of faith.
When I die, I WILL go to heaven, I have faith in that. But when I'm there I will see God, that will be 100% proof for me that God exists, and I will not require faith to believe anymore."
Firstly, I will never understand this irritatingly preachy need to "persuade" the unbeliever, it's annoying and futile, and it's what people are always complaining about with regard to Christians. Can you grab hold of what I'm trying to say, think about it, and really understand why in my mind I don't want or need "proof" that God exists? You guys seem to be taking it as read that it's necessary, and after your own complaints that people don't have open minds, it seems a tad hypocritical. I don't think what I'm saying is easily dismissed nor difficult to understand.
As for going to Heaver... Faith in God is something connected with our mortal existence for those of us who do have it, and you're right, it will be confirmed after death, and faith will no longer be required. But that happens later, and could in some ways be seen as a reward for that faith. After we pass on, we'll know, and faith won't be necessary anymore. I'm talking about how we live life, here.
