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Mounting yourself?

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Jake...
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I asked myself that question for a month. The pros:
-using old skis that will now oly be used for urban, so its not like if i screw up then i cant ride this season. i guess thats the only pro
The cons:
-hard to accuratly free mount
-easier to rip out
-no warantee
-could drill through base

so i told myself you only live once so go for it. So i did, and it worked out fine, hopefully all goes well.

if your thinkin of it, i wouldnt for new/good skis, but for something kicking around, giv'r a go.
Dec 4 2005 10:56PM
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Bangor
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Although it IS doable by hand, getting it done right by a shop with a jig is definately better. Alot better.
Dec 4 2005 10:59PM
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quebecfreestyler
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you have to make sure you use teh proper equipment and put a shit oload of marks on teh ski to know exactly what youaredoing
Dec 4 2005 11:00PM
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lalalalaura
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I'm not going to lie, I just found the title of this thread hilarious.


And only try if if you have tons of experience. Can be pretty goddamn sketchy if you don't know exactly what you're doing.
Dec 4 2005 11:01PM
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eheath
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Hahaha yeah it is.
Dec 4 2005 11:03PM
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Ski_Unit_19
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yeah when i saw this i was like
"that cant be possible"
Dec 4 2005 11:04PM
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steezerampage
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yeah this guy really wants to fuck himself
Dec 4 2005 11:05PM
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cj
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- Bangor on Mounting yourself.
Dec 4 2005 11:26PM
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lalalalaura
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haha, i was going to say something to that effect, but for some reason i can't selectively quote, and thus i was left in the dust.
Dec 4 2005 11:28PM
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froom
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I mounted my oldschool straightcut fischer's myself just for fucking around and doing some urban.

It was pretty easy...cause they already have marked circular soft spots that are really easy to pilot ...almost like little plugs.

I just remounted the heel like 2 inches forward...didnt touch the toe.

Long story short it worked out fine and they ski pretty decent, just make sure you get em flush with the ski.
Dec 5 2005 12:15AM
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Literature
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This thread is brilliant by the title alone.
Dec 5 2005 12:18AM
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skisf4x4
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uh, dude... from the sound of it those skis were already drilled. you use soft plastic plugs to seal the old holes.

and seriously, my official statement is don't mount your own fucking skis. very few people are truly capable of doing this on their own the right way, and those that are certainly arn't posting for help on the internet. by the way, this is not directed at the people in this thread so much as the bunch of other threads with guys like "uh, i want to save $20 and my dad has a drill... think i can mount m fuji's myself? who's DIN?"
Dec 5 2005 12:23AM
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Lineskier-101
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Me and my dad mounted my BRAND NEW fujatives. He took exact measurements, of where to mount each once so that my boot midsole would be at center, and he also measured the center of the width so it wouldn't be offset. It worked perfectly, but I wouldn't recommend it, my dads kind of a perfectionist.
Dec 5 2005 12:26AM
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froom
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they weren't old holes...still had the original graphic, and there were 3 sets at 1" intervals
Dec 5 2005 1:43AM
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Jake...
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yeah, and if you READ my opening post you can tell taht i could really care less if i bust the skis, there not worth 30 dollars (which is what it would cost to mount)
Dec 6 2005 3:45PM
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MLB
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no it is pretty easy, just got to use alot more measurements. use the binding it-self as a template, then just measure right then it is all good. Just basic geometry.
Dec 6 2005 3:52PM
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Lineskier-101
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word, if you know how to measure, and drill, you can't go wrong.
Dec 6 2005 3:53PM
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MLB
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yeah, what i would do for drilling is but the bolt in the binding and measure how much of the bolt is sticking out. that is the length that you have to drill.

to make sure you drill to the right length mark how much bit has to go into the ski. Now put some tape on the upper part on the bit untill the just till the length that you have to drill is just showing.
Dec 6 2005 3:59PM
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Ski-dawg
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yah make sure you at least no a liltle what your dooing or you'll screw over your skis
Dec 6 2005 4:01PM
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Spitzer
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The majority of adult skis will use a 3.5x9mm bit. Drill it to a 9mm depth and everything should be peachy.
Dec 6 2005 4:16PM
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froom
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Are you suggesting that I didnt read the post? It doesnt appear that I've said anything that would indicate I didn't "READ" the post.

I'm actually agreeing with you, I did the same thing you did.

Stop hating.
Dec 6 2005 4:24PM
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Crock360
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you mounted yourself? wow you must be pretty damn flexible.
Dec 6 2005 5:28PM
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Jake...
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ok no worries.


and just so everyone knows ive urbaned with the skis 2ce already and its all good still.. so :P
Dec 24 2005 1:02AM
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CTD
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i munted my new stls by hand. worked fine. the key things:

get the proper size drill bit. to big and it wont hold the threads. too small and you risk cracking the core.

find the insertion depth of the screws, usually 9 mm. ( i mounted mine with 11 mm screws, but they were from risers, and i ground them down to that lenght, cause the ski is fairly tall.) then, just use electrical tape or set the depth of the drill chuck to that measurement.

make exact marks, and use accurate measuring devices. i found an exacto blade works great for making exact marks, especially vs a marker.

if you have risers for the binding, they make great jigs. if not you can make your own, or just use the binding. a center punch is helpful for keelping the holes exactly lined up, but it isnt nescessary.

and, finally, use glue in the screwholes.

its fairly easy. somewhat time consuming, b ut its free, and if you take your time the worst that could happen is you have to mount them in a slightly diff. location. and een if you were dumb enough to drill through the ski, that is an EASY ass fix.
Dec 24 2005 1:41AM
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steve-o
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using a rider from the binding is brilliant ^ but if you dont have a jig ur screwed if ur even afew mm off... and then youll have to redrill everything at a totally different possition
Dec 24 2005 2:05AM
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skisf4x4
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i am technically capable of fixing that kind of thing, but your ski is FUCKED at that point. so fucked i wouldn't even bother fixing it, just throw the skis out and start over. even perfectly fixed the core is ruined, the flex is ruined, and the durability is ruined.

its just a cheap price to pay to ensure your brand new skis don't get fucked up. take em to a shop.
Dec 24 2005 12:15PM
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PhishHead
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i mounted my new scratches myself, wasnt hard and they work fine. Its easy enough if you are mounting on one of the marks that comes on the ski.
Dec 24 2005 3:54PM
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CTD
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WHAT? who told you this? haha. it doesnt do shit to the ski if you drill through um. as it is, you already drill 90 % through the ski, an extra 10 % will not validate throwing the ski out. it does nothing to effect the flex pattern, or anything of the sort. the easiest way to fix that would be to simply epoxy the hole up. the best way would be to cut out a small area, and epoxy in a base patch, weld up the seams, andre grind the ski. if it was a black base, it would literally be unnoticable, both in appearence, and preformance.


now, granted, if you were to just drill a bunch of holes in your ski, you would totally fuck the flex pattern, but drilling the mounting holes to deep will not effect the preformance of the ski. trust me. i know what im talking about.
Dec 25 2005 7:22PM
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Flynn
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Drilling through your ski pretty much gaurantees you will delam it around the drill hole on the base. That is if you ski with any balls.

If you are a ballsless wonder and ski like a complete pussy though, by all means drill through your ski.
Dec 25 2005 7:32PM
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CTD
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if you dont fix it, hell yeah. it would also ruin the core by allowing water to soak into the core. but if fixed properly, it wouldnt be an issue. but again, your stupid if you drill though a ski. its not to hard to measure.
Dec 25 2005 8:34PM
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Flynn
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How would you go about fixing it?

If you fillnit in with epoxy, the epoxy flexes differently then the ptex, will not bond well and will delam.

If you fill it in with ptez the hole will simply fall out.

If you fill it in with jb weld or an equivalet machineable epoxy it will also crack out.

If you plug it and seal the plgu with epoxy the epoxy will still eventualy crack and the ski will delam.


There is no way to fix it properly and have it be asif a hole were never drilled.




I guess the mainpoint is though, and i agree with you. Is that if you drill through your ski you are infact a dumbass.
Dec 25 2005 8:54PM
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kthnxbai.
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on my buddies rail skis, we just took wood screws and slammed them through the entire ski, and then dremeled the ends off

on another note i work in a ski shop, and i would recommend using a jig for sure, especially after seeing some sketchy stuff that comes through the shop
Dec 25 2005 9:06PM
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b_dash_rian
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^^^i agree
Dec 25 2005 10:00PM
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Spitzer
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somebody drilled through a ski (Rossi Watts Jr. stix) at my shop once. Since we wrote it off already, I stuck a whole stick of P-tex into the hole to plug it...

We ended up using those skis to modify a GT racer... haven't tried it yet, but it should be sweet.
Dec 26 2005 3:08AM
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