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Factory Wax?

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Suited-n-Booted
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I just got a pair of 04-05 PE's - do they come with a factory wax and how do i tell if my skis are waxed or need waxed?
Nov 30 2005 12:27AM
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Free_Heel_Jibber
Posts: 42 - Karma: 10
Most skis dont come with wax aready on them. If I were you Id wax them up before I skied them.
Nov 30 2005 12:32AM
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C.J.
Posts: 5460 - Karma: 72
no wax comes on k2's
Nov 30 2005 12:41AM
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Raek
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how about the rossis>?
Nov 30 2005 12:57AM
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C.J.
Posts: 5460 - Karma: 72
cant say for sure on any others but I dont think may, if any come with wax.
Nov 30 2005 1:03AM
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Raek
Posts: 2378 - Karma: 14
cool. yeah i bought wax anyway.figured it couldnt hurt.
Nov 30 2005 1:05AM
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KeegLove
Posts: 10166 - Karma: 55
no wax but it has a factory coating so u dont have to wax them the bases are not dry when they ar brand new
Nov 30 2005 1:07AM
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VKarma185
Posts: 1162 - Karma: 12
are you serious? just about ALL skis come with wax already on them. yes your PE's are ready to skis if they're brand new
Nov 30 2005 1:07AM
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C.J.
Posts: 5460 - Karma: 72
correct, but it sure does not hurt
Nov 30 2005 1:08AM
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MarkieR
Posts: 5337 - Karma: 98
my shop sells rossi, volkl, k2, salomon, and 4frnt. every rep said that the skis are good to go out the door, factory tuned and waxed. i can't speak for other companies, but if every company we sell has a factory wax, then they all probably do.
Nov 30 2005 1:10AM
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jholer2
Posts: 576 - Karma: 11
even if they do come with factory wax it doesn't really help. the factory wax is just rolled on without heating the ski so the wax doesnt actually get in the pores of the base. if you really care about waxing you need to use an iron.
Nov 30 2005 1:11AM
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VKarma185
Posts: 1162 - Karma: 12
gosh people are sooooo smart it amazes me...next time you buy a new pair of skis compare how long the factory wax lasts vs. your wax job. actually i'll just tell you, the factory wax lasts a lot longer.
Nov 30 2005 1:25AM
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jholer2
Posts: 576 - Karma: 11
if you mean that it doesnt ski off as fast than maybe, but factory wax is just a coat to make sure they don't dry out. its not better than waxing with an iron.
Nov 30 2005 1:27AM
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freezed
Posts: 12973 - Karma: 500
whether or not it feels like they go fast right out of the wrapper, you SHOULD hot wax them before you ski them. But then again, this is just for peak performance, after you hit a few rails, the difference is negligible.
Nov 30 2005 1:44AM
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Raek
Posts: 2378 - Karma: 14
ah word. thanks so now i can ski my new skis on saturday...im gonna wax em that night. i just wanted to ride em on saturday so... and i aint paying 32 dollars for a fucking wax.
Dec 1 2005 10:11PM
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Tinga
Posts: 11349 - Karma: 2,333
umm no skis come with factory wax on them they all come with factory grinds tho
Dec 1 2005 10:13PM
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real9999
Posts: 652 - Karma: 10
Most skis come waxed off a roller from the factory. In other words, they come waxed but the wax sucks. So regardless of how they come from the factory, wax them anyway.
Dec 1 2005 11:09PM
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P--Ryan--C
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what if it looks like theres a bunch of white dust on them when they're brand new?
Dec 23 2005 9:16PM
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labmt4
Posts: 19 - Karma: 10
actually factory skis come unwaxed and they are supposed to be ground and then waxed multiplte times when brand new. Ask any ski racer who knows how to tune skis
Dec 23 2005 9:21PM
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mad_540_trix
Posts: 2452 - Karma: 14
factory wax rocks.
Dec 23 2005 11:31PM
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Casey
Posts: 7844 - Karma: 24,263
come on people. the factory wax is for shipping purposes, you should get your skis waxed when you buy them AND detune the tip and tail. The factory gets your edges sharper than you ever will be able to, so don't fuck with them.
Dec 23 2005 11:40PM
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clint
Posts: 978 - Karma: 31
wow, factory wax is the shittiest shit ever. how cant you tell if you need wax or not? you rub the back of your hand on the base and then you ask yourself, "do i need to wax these?"
Dec 23 2005 11:52PM
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numbsy
Posts: 149 - Karma: 10
casey was right-on. Shipping wax. Detune edges and put on a new coat of wax.
Dec 23 2005 11:56PM
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eheath
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Lots of new skis seem to not be waxed tho?
Dec 23 2005 11:57PM
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mathers
Posts: 1865 - Karma: 490
why NOT wax them? its not like waxing them is gonna make em slower
Dec 24 2005 12:11AM
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Gnarshred
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when you got your bindings mounted they should have done a 'new ski tune' it detunes the edges and puts on a layer of machined rub on wax.

tahts what my shop does anyway.
Dec 24 2005 12:30AM
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Adamskinick
Posts: 3353 - Karma: 126
its getting the best stone grind and factory wax. even if they dont physically wax it. you dont need need to do anything because it's straight from the factory/manufacturer. its smooth and does not need any wax. but if u want, it can't hurt.
Dec 24 2005 12:31AM
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johanblaze
Posts: 4987 - Karma: 345
mike gutt told me that k2 does come with a factory wax. it lasts about three days.
Dec 24 2005 12:43AM
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Itsbackfliptime
Posts: 18901 - Karma: 75
i'm a firm believer in "it doesnt really make a big enough difference for me to spend the time waxing them or pay for them to be waxed".
Dec 24 2005 12:46AM
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CTD
Posts: 6300 - Karma: 348
hahahahahahahahaha, WOW. theres been like 2 people here who understand how this all works.

ALL SKIS come from the factory with a factory wax. this factory wax is nothing more than rolled on parafin, which is what ski wax is, minus all the chemicals and additives that help with speed. it is there solely to prevent the skis from shipping with a dry base. it doesnt last, and is not at all fast.

and yes. when your skis are new, you should hotwax them. ALOT. the first few waxes are super importnant to building up the base, and waxing them multiple times really helps contaminate the base with wax. so far, i have waxed my skis EVERY time i have ridden this season.

now, as for how to tell when your skis need waxed. when your base becomes dry, it needs wax. dry bases look like there is a white grain over the base, versus glossy. they also feel dry to the touch. a waxed ski is pretty much frictionless feeling, and is shinny.

and yes, waxing a ski makes a HUGE difference in the preformance. especially on slower hills. there, the added glide is very noticable. so bottom line, you really should wax your skis. and if you cant do it yourself, learn. its incredibly easy. and it beats spending 30 + for a shop to do it.
Dec 24 2005 1:17AM
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Anathema
Posts: 21048 - Karma: 5,061
you're absolutely wrong
Dec 24 2005 1:19AM
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smithxi
Posts: 323 - Karma: 10
how hot do you turn the iron?
Dec 24 2005 1:38AM
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Jib_This
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If it's making smoke, it's too hot.
Dec 24 2005 2:58AM
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ccampbe77
Posts: 41 - Karma: 10
You are an idiot if you are one of those people who put wax on their skis the second you buy them... i hate it when people do that at my shop... so i give them race wax since they need to go sooo damn fast :)
Dec 24 2005 11:14AM
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BillyGoteMan
Posts: 1983 - Karma: 12
i wax my skis right when i get them, factory wax is no good and u def shud tune the endges cuz the factory can get wax all on ur edges
Dec 24 2005 11:47AM
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CTD
Posts: 6300 - Karma: 348
yeah for real. sorry if i dont like to have to skate my ass off into every jump, and that i enjoy having a ski that is tuned to make my ridding more fun. i ski a small ass hill, and in order to clear some of our bigger jumps, your skis better be fast as shit. and tunning your skis the right way makes jibbing 100 X easier.
Dec 24 2005 11:51AM
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lineskis_16
Posts: 490 - Karma: 10
k mang sh... you can nevva eva eva go to fast with the wind going throgh yo dome and yo gat! just like uuhhh i was going like 90 revs per minute through the tress jea!
Dec 24 2005 12:17PM
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BillyGoteMan
Posts: 1983 - Karma: 12
uh what?
Dec 24 2005 12:25PM
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Petecanski
Posts: 941 - Karma: 7
Wax. What is wax?
Dec 24 2005 12:27PM
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Spitzer
Posts: 534 - Karma: 10
It's actually a good way to preserve your base. A well maintained base is actually more durable than a dry base.

It's not necessary, but I'd like my skis to last... and wax is free where I work.
Dec 25 2005 2:10AM
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Paul-o-Rama
Posts: 3301 - Karma: 13
its called cocaine, just push it into a line with a razor and snort it w/ a dollar bill
Dec 25 2005 5:32AM
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Paul-o-Rama
Posts: 3301 - Karma: 13
its called cocane, just push it into a line with a razor and snort it w/ a dollar bill
Dec 25 2005 5:32AM
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Paul-o-Rama
Posts: 3301 - Karma: 13
its called cocane, just push it into a line with a razor and snort it w/ a dollar bill
Dec 25 2005 5:32AM
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Paul-o-Rama
Posts: 3301 - Karma: 13
its called cocane, just push it into a line with a razor and snort it w/ a dollar bill
Dec 25 2005 5:32AM
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Paul-o-Rama
Posts: 3301 - Karma: 13
its called cocaine, just push it into a line with a razor and snort it w/ a dollar bill
Dec 25 2005 5:32AM
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Paul-o-Rama
Posts: 3301 - Karma: 13
its called cocaine, just push it into a line with a razor and snort it w/ a dollar bill
Dec 25 2005 5:32AM
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CTD
Posts: 6300 - Karma: 348
wow, a 6 post?!?! thats a new ns record. congrats
Dec 25 2005 7:13PM
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