Avalanches

skis420 decided to be a dick and lecture me on avalanches so I decided everyone should read it. but you have to read it from bottom to top for it to make sense, and this guy is 22 years old.

you know what. I ride back country almost 4 days a week and I don't ride at resorts. I know how to use my gear and how to prevent alot of avalanche danger by digging pits and checking the layers, ruschblock tests, and just llooking at clue on the slope. And as long as I am in the back country I will not be concerned with what can happen to me outside my control there is no point to that. My point is that my dad is an ER Doctor and I spent alot of years in a montana hospital and I have seen probbly 5 - 8 peopl e with broken backs that have been in avalanches and were dug up in time by their friends, one that even broke his femur and his back, and was 7 feet deep. There is always a better chance with a beacon. Now leave me alone/

Date Sent: November 17 2005 00:15:08 - (read)
skis420 --> GotamaBCshred...*
ya 50% die from trama...then trying to dig him up in less than 15 minutes would be near impossible as well...youre missing the point here, avalanche gear wont save you only your mind(which in your case youre as good as dead)

Date Sent: November 17 2005 00:14:15 - (read)
GotamaBCshred...* --> skis420
I don't know 50% of avalanceh facts? Because I think that a beacon coul dhave saved him?

Date Sent: November 17 2005 00:13:01 - (read)
skis420 --> GotamaBCshred...*
You dont know your stats, and 83% of people who dont know at least 50% of avalanche facts have a 99% chance of dieing in the backcountry. Ya beater.

Date Sent: November 17 2005 00:12:10 - (read)
GotamaBCshred...* --> skis420
yeah go on, so far that does not show in anyway how I would be a risk in the back country

Date Sent: November 17 2005 00:11:00 - (read)
skis420 --> GotamaBCshred...*
what did utskier just say....50% of avy deaths are from trama...he died of a broken neck...it was unlikely gear would have saved him..need I go on or do you give up?

Date Sent: November 17 2005 00:10:21 - (read)
GotamaBCshred...* --> skis420
?? How so?

Date Sent: November 17 2005 00:09:54 - (read)
skis420 --> GotamaBCshred...*
hahaha an 8 year old who proved you know nothing about avalanches, youre a danger to you and everyone around you.

Date Sent: November 17 2005 00:09:16 - (read)
GotamaBCshred...* --> skis420
you act like your a 8 years old

Date Sent: November 17 2005 00:05:39 - (read)
skis420 --> GotamaBCshred...*
what now bitch?

Date Sent: November 17 2005 00:05:34 - (read)
skis420 --> GotamaBCshred...*
hahaahhah ooooooo dude go read the avy thread. UTskier is out there everyday and he definitley knows his shit if you look at his pictures....go read wht he had to say. Guess what!? You were wrong and he agrees with me.

Date Sent: November 17 2005 00:04:21 - (read)
GotamaBCshred...* --> skis420
well then you are a very immature 22 year old.

Date Sent: November 17 2005 00:03:53 - (read)
skis420 --> GotamaBCshred...*
Im 22 you dirty scoundral


Date Sent: November 16 2005 21:29:50 - (read)
GotamaBCshred...* --> skis420
I live by myself now thanks. And you are not avy certified you are not older then like 16

Date Sent: November 16 2005 21:28:17 - (read)
skis420 --> GotamaBCshred...*
hey man, i hope your dad rapes you next time.

Date Sent: November 16 2005 21:23:06 - (read)
GotamaBCshred...* --> skis420
ok thanks

Date Sent: November 16 2005 20:50:10 - (read)
skis420 --> GotamaBCshred...*
oh and good job proving yourself wrong with your little chart moron....jesus are all people from montana inbred or what. Oh ya tell your dad he is a real winner at life for getting drunk and t hrowing his children down stairs. Youre going to turn out to be just as big of a loser as him.

Date Sent: November 16 2005 20:45:29 - (read)
skis420 --> GotamaBCshred...*
ya and I know plenty too...but when you break your back in an avalanche then continue to fall 1000 feet getting knocked around then have people rip you out of a whole and carry you down a mountain...guess what asshat, theres a good chance you just severed your spinal cord. Breaking your back falling and doing it in an avalanche are two VERY different things. how do you not know this?>

Date Sent: November 16 2005 20:44:18 - (read)
skis420 --> GotamaBCshred...*
Thats besides the point...had his buddy been able to dig him out in 15 minutes(doubtful as it took 8 of them probably 10 minutes to do it) and had he not suffered from any serious injuries after falling 1000 feet through trees and rocks in an early season snow pack he still only had a 70% chance of living if his buddy got him out in under 15 minutes.(doubtful) You need to get your shit straight bro....Go load a ten bullet revolver with 3 bullets you still think you have good odds of surviving pulling the trigger?

Date Sent: November 16 2005 20:42:40 - (read)
GotamaBCshred...* --> skis420
I personally know 2 people that have broken their back or neck and they are fine

Date Sent: November 16 2005 20:41:48 - (read)
GotamaBCshred...* --> skis420
right, I have had multiple back and neck injuries man, that doesn't mean he broke his neck

Date Sent: November 16 2005 20:40:51 - (read)
skis420 --> GotamaBCshred...*
We were certain he had back and perhaps neck injuries

Derrrrrrr Im a retard...I cant read and comprehend simple stories.

Date Sent: November 16 2005 20:38:48 - (read)
GotamaBCshred...* --> skis420
it never said he had a broken neck, what is with you and your friend do you just hate everyone? What I said is true.

skis420 --> GotamaBCshred...*
Thanks so have I. The fact is youre a moron if you think the chances of ever surviving an avalanche are "good". Plus the dude in this case had clear signs of a broken neck. Youre wrong buddy..sorry

Date Sent: November 16 2005 20:35:14 - (read)
GotamaBCshred...* --> skis420
I do too, your real cool and all but I have dealt with avalanches before and people getting buried. I've also been around 3 or 4 occasions just like this.

Date Sent: November 16 2005 20:31:53 - (read)
skis420 --> GotamaBCshred...*
and again did you miss the part where 8 of them dug furiously and they were all exhausted??? So you think one dude is going to be able to locate and dig up a body from under 6 feet of snow in under 15 minutes? Not many people can do that man. He did not have good odds at all, sorry but youre wrong. Oh ps I have my avy 2 certs done. I doubt you do.

Date Sent: November 16 2005 20:30:40 - (read)
skis420 --> GotamaBCshred...*
haha actually i forget the exact statistic but the chances of dieing from trama were somewhere around 30%. Those are pretty high odds dude...this is youre life were talking about, get serious.

Date Sent: November 16 2005 20:29:03 - (read)
GotamaBCshred...* --> skis420
Your friend is an Idiot and he has no credablilty anyway. Most times people don't die really from broken necks, you would be amazed

Date Sent: November 16 2005 20:27:07 - (read)
skis420 --> GotamaBCshred...*
and youre a moron dude, read the fucking story. It says he most likely broke his neck....and what they were describing was the tell tale signs of a broken neck.

Date Sent: November 16 2005 20:26:41 - (read)
skis420 --> GotamaBCshred...*
no im his friend, he told me to post that

Date Sent: November 16 2005 20:26:08 - (read)
GotamaBCshred...* --> skis420
yeah I do. and are you Icc220 but you got banned?

Date Sent: November 16 2005 20:23:58 - (read)
skis420 --> GotamaBCshred...*
haha i mean seriously a 1 in 5 chance of living is good odds to you??

Date Sent: November 16 2005 20:23:41 - (read)
skis420 --> GotamaBCshred...*
I said even if his buddies had found him there is a good chance he wouldnt have survived. Youre right the odds are about 20% chance of dieing after 15 minutes. You think a 1 in 5 chance of dieing is good odds?? You must be a fucking moron. oh ya and also learn to read the story, they said he had bruising on his neck...most likely from a broken neck. And also there were like 10 people digging him out and did you hear how hard it was???? you think his buddy could have dug him out in under 10 minutes? YOU dont know shit man