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yeah i got some recently, and it works good with snow from rinks. if you have a steep hill you can just session with water. i can do it with just water but i need pole pushes. if you look at home depot ect. they charge up the ass. go to wal-mart and look for "outdoor grass/carpet" and its the same thing. i just cut it in half. and it works good. its also like $40 cheaper