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How much do rails damage skis?

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QuazBotch
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No, not ice rails.

PVC or metal. Do they severly scratch up the bases or edges? Anything noticeable?
Nov 28 2001 10:46PM
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resnick13
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PVC is not that bad on the edges, but metal dulls your edges out pretty bad ass

the good thing about edges is you can always resharpen them

'Image your Bob Marley smoking the fattest fucking spliff in the world.......now grind that fucking rail!' - MDfresh (Doug Bishop)
Nov 28 2001 10:58PM
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gordo
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if you do it right it wont do a whole lot, but sometimes you can grind them down
Nov 28 2001 11:05PM
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silverfoxkz
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metal rounds the edges if you grind a lt or come off early a lot. Who care newschoolers dont ski on ice
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Nov 28 2001 11:26PM
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yellowsnow4u
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Yah but I still want to have good control for the rest of the mtn....I am not a fucking park rat. How much will the skis performance be affected?
Matt

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Nov 29 2001 12:51AM
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quebecfreestyler
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try to get a pair of skis for grinding....

Cause ice is fun to ski too.

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Nov 29 2001 8:14AM
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skiordie
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u won't be able to carve out good from your turns down the slope.
Fear is the mind killer!
Nov 29 2001 8:15AM
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Mr.Bishop
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If you are a good skier who is used to performance, you will lose ALL capabilities to ski on ice.

Powder, soft and courderoy are fine, but say goodbye to ice.

I've wiped out on green runs because I hit an ice patch and there's NO edges left.

Especially if you have a racing background and you're used to riding your edges.


Drunk, hooked on crack, lying in the gutter curled around my skis in the fetal position wearing nothing but the head of a chicken suit.

Damn I hate fall.
Nov 29 2001 3:14PM
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headrider
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it matters if your a good skier, if your good you can ski with any kind of ski and jib with any,
but if you mess you on pvc nothing should happen but metal can ripe an edge out


If your attack is going well, then it's an ambush..
Nov 29 2001 3:29PM
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Dspin900
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On PVC u do more harm to the rail than ure egdes...a lot of time if u aren't flat u'll shred the plastic and wipe out (I know)

Nov 29 2001 5:11PM
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skibum1080
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if your edges get rounded just sharpen them like once a week if you want performance on other parts of the mountain.

later--->chris
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Nov 29 2001 5:23PM
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Mr.Bishop
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I don't think we're talking about the same kind of ice here.

Sure 'if you're a good skier, any ski...' but seriously... If you do a LOT of rails, the damage is unrepairable, and will SERIOUSLY affect your edging abilities. ONly on ice though.

Skibum: that only works if you don't do a lot of rails.

Drunk, hooked on crack, lying in the gutter curled around my skis in the fetal position wearing nothing but the head of a chicken suit.

Damn I hate fall.
Nov 29 2001 7:08PM
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Whistlermann
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This is like the 10th time somebody has asked this...
it all depends how good you are and how much you jib. A little isn't bad but for street jibbing you should get a new pair of skis


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Nov 29 2001 7:43PM
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Reed.
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i thought when you carve, your on the fattest parts of the ski (front and back tips) on shaped skis anyway


LD CREW
Nov 29 2001 10:43PM
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jibculture27
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Metal rails will make your edges nice and wavy, but it really doesn't effect your skiing, unless you plan on like racing the next day. And you can get them fixed at the end of the year or when ever if they get too bad.

Nov 30 2001 1:18PM
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SkierX
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Yeah, but if you have messed up edges, your ski won't hold as well. It might slide out on icec. But it really isn't that bad. it's not gonna totally destroy your edges or anything. Especially if you only do rails every so often. But if you are a rail'a'holic, then ya might wana be careful.
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Nov 30 2001 1:22PM
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K2_ENEMY
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if u use metal rails to grind u will also concave the middle of your ski that is if you grind a lot
Nov 30 2001 5:27PM
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newschooler14
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yeah i plan on doing the pvc one in my backyard for the most part. but the ones at my hill are 4 inche steel ones. doesnt 4 inches sound really wide or am i smoking crack?
Nov 30 2001 6:28PM
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SteezyMcDizzle
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i get a lot of cracks in my edges from doing rails and i've torn pieces of the edge completely out..but i am pretty cool
Jun 13 2008 4:32PM
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carbon.pulse
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 Last post-Nov 30 2001

 ^This post-Jun 13 2008

Any body see a slight difference of maybe....7 years!
Jun 13 2008 4:35PM
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SteezyMcDizzle
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sorry i dont know what i was thinking^
Jun 13 2008 4:42PM
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AC_breezy
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sides don't scratch but the metal wears down

after 2 years of rails your skis might be preety damn scratched
you can get them sharpened

Jun 13 2008 4:47PM
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Karcher
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i dont think that PVC really wears down your edges at all. i think you might actually be wearing down the PVC
Jun 13 2008 4:51PM
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ryan.c
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rails dull edges like crazy. ice will be very difficult. but not only that, rails put dents/cracks/just fuck up edges which makes skiing on anything hard. just depends how much u do and what features ur hitting
Jun 13 2008 5:07PM
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QuazBotch
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Should I feel old now?
Jun 13 2008 5:09PM
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Snowcase
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Yes, I feel old (compared to the majority of NS) and I joined 4 years later.
Jun 13 2008 5:16PM
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Malcolm
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shit i was like 9 when u wrote this

Jun 13 2008 5:16PM
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drumbumocdp
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if you live in the east and want edges and still be able to grind, your gunna need 2 pairs of skis. edges and rails aren't friends
Jun 13 2008 5:26PM
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papasteeze
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no, But I want to know, how are your edges holding up?
Jun 13 2008 5:27PM
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K2skipunk
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haha, yeah,  how they doin mang?
Jun 13 2008 5:43PM
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BEARS.
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why would you bump this?
Jun 13 2008 8:17PM
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KAS
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to check his edges. =]
Jun 13 2008 9:01PM
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Lemuel
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i got used to dull edges. i tried skiing on my friends chronic wides that were sharp compared to mine and i could not ski. i kept catching edges. i was flying down one of the winding  trails at Jay and it was all ice,  i was almost fucked and off the edge
Jun 13 2008 9:13PM
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Franny
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I'm East Cost and Southern Ontario so it's mainly rails for me. So my edges can't even cut butter.
Jun 13 2008 9:15PM
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Lemuel
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tests have shown that on the east coast, the ice will dull your edges more than rails lol
Jun 13 2008 9:18PM
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Wolffy
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It should be fine, but skiing on ice will suck
Sep 18 2013 10:25PM
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DeRizzo
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Sometimes...


YA GOTTA LOOK AT THE DAMN DATE
Sep 18 2013 10:27PM
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ndye
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2nd date fail in this thread. well played sir
Sep 18 2013 10:33PM
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.otto.
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WOW THIS IS OLD
Aug 28 2015 1:53PM
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gperry1
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I was 10 months old when this thread was made...
Aug 28 2015 4:01PM
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macavity
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Mr.BishopIf you are a good skier who is used to performance, you will lose ALL capabilities to ski on ice.

Powder, soft and courderoy are fine, but say goodbye to ice.

I've wiped out on green runs because I hit an ice patch and there's NO edges left


I'm so glad I'm not the only one who has this problem. I mainly ride a pair of beat-to-shit ar6s. they still rip it all over the mountain on soft snow and courderoy, but the moment I hit ice I look like I've never skied before. I always thought it was just because I suck lol.
Aug 28 2015 5:01PM
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trannyfinder.edu
Posts: 236 - Karma: 288
On PVC you should be fine, been using skis for my summer setup for two summers now and my edges still scrape the pvc mad if i dig in too hard
Aug 28 2015 7:04PM
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.GUCCI.
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I propose that Mr. Bishop change his name back to MDFresh.
Aug 28 2015 8:01PM
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quixotic
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captain_whaleI was 10 months old when this thread was made...


god damn. we've gotten to the point where members are joining that weren't even alive when NS was born.
Aug 28 2015 9:17PM
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slimeball
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I wasn't even born yet lol
Aug 28 2015 9:29PM
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qyleberry
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Let's be real rails are the only thing that fuck skis up
Aug 30 2015 9:46PM
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brett_fisher
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when ever I get new sticks I ask one of my homies to de tun my edges i haven't had the problem but if you don't de tun i heard you catch your edge and die but really i don't care about my edges.
Aug 31 2015 12:06AM
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Peter.
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qyleberryLet's be real rails are the only thing that fuck skis up


you've never skied early season/late season rock runs then
Aug 31 2015 10:45AM
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Brule.
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Shit I was like 3 when this thread was made. Wow I feel old.
Aug 31 2015 11:34AM
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.otto.
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Im going to start searching for old threads, I found this one on the guy who made gnarshmallows page
Aug 31 2015 12:03PM
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E_Z_STEEZ
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im so young i was 2 when this guy posted this
Aug 31 2015 12:42PM
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