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No binding can reduce the risk of tearing your ACL?
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It was brought to my attention by a member of this site that no binding on the market can reduce the risk of an ACL injury. He said this is shown through a study done by the US ski team and Vermont Ski Safety. I am currently doing connective tissue research here at the university of pittsburgh and I would really appreciate any info on these studies. I searched the web and couldn't find anything. Anyone have Vermont Ski Safety's email or have any imput on this subject at all?
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You came to the wrong site to get that type of info. Good luck with your research with the people on this site.
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It isn't that some bindings aren't better than others it's that no company can afford to Advertise that theirs helps prevent Acl damage for fear of suits brought against them buy those who get hurt. Besides it's one thing for a bunch of engineers to claim that something should prevent connective tissue damage but what are they going to do market it and then do a study on how many acl's were torn as opposed to with their old binding? Ski companies don't want anything to do with you once you buy their product that's howcome they have the legal idemnification process and the binding installation certification process. When you sign the line on the form to get your skis mounted you're releiving everyone of everything possible. One more thing is that while acl damage in skiing isn't rare, information on it isn't really compiled very well that I have ever seen. I tore my acl last January and nobody documenteed that for a study, nor had my Doctor a prominent Surgeon in a prominent ski town ever submitted any such infos to a study. And it makes sense that no binding company has put out the money for an across the board study because nobody knows what would happen. What if it turns out that a brand that's been selling bindings for 30 years is slightly less safe than others and that is published? They'd be fucked. We need better bodies more than better equipment you guys should get to work on that.
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^ Oh I agree dude, from what I've seen in sports medicine research, is that ACL tears are more common in women and underconditioned athletes, as well as the average joe who thinks he's an athlete.
I have also torn my ACL skiing. I always thought this was because my ski did not pop off when i over-rotated my 540. And from what I've seen in my 14 years of skiing, ACL injuries are very common when the binding does not release. According to this guy, no binding can reduce ACL injurries. I'm just looking for a little starting material. And i guess your right about the companies with "less safe" bindings would be screwed.
But I also thought Line marketed the reactor by saying it reduces the risk of knee injuries in a "backward twisting fall"?
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the line binding definitely reduces the risk in that type of fall
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the reactors are sposed to help reduce it but i tore my acl on demoed chronics with reactors. But i think i may have popped it after the ski released.
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I didn't tear my ACL with the reactor. I suffered a dislocation, meniscus tear and patelar tendon tear. I feel I probably should have torn my ACL. I under-rotated a five. My skis stopped on the snow, but my body continued to rotate, much like a backward twisting fall. I'm agree with Line and I think their idea works.
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Tought day? Get pwn3d in another thread? Haha I'm just bustin on yah.
Anyways, the reactor really does help.
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Ok good stuff so far. Now heres a little poll. Rank the top 3 "safest" bindings. I'm looking for some experience here, i'm not saying you have to have skied the ones you name, but no little 13 year olds who are like "i've heard the reactor is the best." I'm looking for guys who are veterans on the slopes and who are in the know.
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I really like Look/Rossi. They always released when I needed them to. All three knee injuries happened on a set of Marker Titaniums. Sadly, my Lines didn't hold up and need to be replaced. Hope that helps.
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I think that line's concept for the reactor is great, but the binding itself is not.
Anyways, I like my P12's
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all the new bindings release better and can deffinalty save your knees
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oh yeah, please don't take into consideration other categories here. Price, durability, how it looks are not factors right now. I just want opinions on safety.
"If you had unlimitted money to buy as many binding and to customize how it looks and mounts to the ski... what would that binding be?"
I think that takes care of all of the other variables.
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Search the site, im sure that someone not too long ago did a really good write up on the benefits of the Reactor binding, im too lazy to look myself good luck!
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sorry i cant help, but it would be awesome if you posted your findings later, something truly important on this site for a change would be nice.
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Oh i'm definitely going to give up-dates. I'm planning on calling my local mountains and asking them to record binding related injuries. I don't know if they'll participate though. It would be nice if i could get a place like mammoth or somewhere big to participate. My mountains here in PA are kinda smaller compared to out west.
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i would check out the difference between last years look/rossi bindings and this years. they got rid of the pivot heel, fixing the heel in place. i like my old p12's, i don't know so much about the new bindings. certinly a great reserch topic tho man. good luck
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