okay... i didnt really take the time to read through supachron's list there last time, but a few things just caught my eye.
1. Joseph Smith received his revelation to marry multiple wives because he wanted to bang his 16 year old housekeeper, which he did shortly later. He went on to marry 36 women, possibly 48.
source? ive never heard this in my life.
3. LDS church members today say that polygamy is "a sacred right, but not of this age." Basically they cannot condemn it, because that would mean condemning Joseph Smith. But they can't support it, because the only reason they became accepted is that they dropped polygamy. Many still practice it secretly.
anyone who practices polygamy is excommunicated. any polygamist groups arent members of the LDS church. and if youre going to go back 200 years and try to condemn a religion for its history, you had better be ready to condemn not only all of western religion, but also folks like abraham issac and moses.
4. Brigham Young, a Mormon prophet, said that committing a homosexual act or having sex with a member of the African race is an offense punishable by immediate death.
if this is chronicaled anywhere id love to know about it. again, source?
5. Mormons believe they can talk directly with God, and he will speak back to them. This has led to a lot of terrible things, like the kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart and murder of a mother and her infant daughter in Utah.
the dude who kidnapped eliz. smart was not a memeber of the LDS church. he may have been at some time in the past, but certainly isnt now. as far as talking to God is concerned... i think most religions believe in that. its called "prayer" maybe youve heard of it?
6. Upon death, Mormons believe that mormon men are transported into outer space, where they receive their own planet and become gods. When their wife/wives die, the husband must admit them into their planet, for only the husband knows the wife's secret name that can get her into heaven. Then the man and his wives populate the planet with "spirit babies." Seriously I am not making this shit up.
seriously, youre making this shit up.
7. Black people are black because God cursed them to live in caves, somehow turning their skin black rather than white.
????????????? nope. drawing a total blank on this one.
as far as the women and leadership are concerned... again, youre going to have to take this gripe up with the majority of organized christianity.
8. No one is supposed to be able to receive revelations from God except the president of the Mormon faith. As soon as the president dies, a new one is chosen, and magically receives the power to speak with God.
prophecy is a basic tenet of the biblical chritianity. if you believe in the bible, (im assuming you dont, so this is for the ones who might) then there should be no problem with this...
altough it should be noted that youve contradicted yourself here. can only the president of the church talk to God, or can anyone? youve said both things. make up your mind.
9. In the polygamist fundamentalist Mormon city of Colorado City, the town is ruled by the Prophet Uncle Rulon. Under Uncle Rulon's laws, no one may read newspapers, books, magazines, or watch TV. Women are married away around age 12 to men around the age of 40, and that night the man has sex with the 12 year old girl. Daughters or stepdaughters are frequently married to their fathers. One girl who managed to escape from the town says that girls are raped constantly. She was so upset after seeing her husband molest her daughter, she popped a bunch of pills and ran to her father. Her father comforted her, and then raped her.
not mormons. any normal mormon is as disgusted by this kind of thing as anyone. I think even krakauer makes this distinction.
10. Every single aspect of science contradicts the book of Mormon. There is no way any of the events in it took place.
source? by the way, your wrong. every single aspect? clearly you know that making all inclusive statments like that makes you sound like an idiot from the get go.
ive posted this before, but if youre actually interested in knowing whats up rather than spewing out libel, check out
www.farms.byu.edu
that will give you the low down on the book of mormon and science.
11. The book of Mormon contradicts the bible in almost every way. They believe that Jesus was just a man, not the messiah, yet they still demand to be called Christians. The bible to them is only a supplement to the book of mormon. They are as much Christians as Jews are, but demand to be seen as Christians.
this is the most off base comment youve made. if you take this sentance and then think of the exact opposite, then you have a more accurate statment. superchornic, youre a moron. or just dreadfully misinformed.
12. The Mormon church takes a 10 percent tithe from all members.
this is 100% voluntary. the word "takes" is a bit misleading wouldnt you say? also, if you think tithings bad, you have issues with all traditional christianity, as well as with Islam.
basically, superchronic, you entire list is falacious, at very best. its outright libelous, actually.
