Hard cider

wait im confused, it spoils and then you drink it a week later?

i dotn get it, is it hard as in liquored cider or what is hard cider?

i have heard that before, ingenius!

all i know is my neighbors a whine farmer, and he told me that anytime i want i can buy bottles off of him for like 2 dollars each

good to burn fat too

it turns into alolho after a while right

yep it frements.

My friends and I started brewing all kinds of hard juices and stuff over the summer. It is remarkably easy too...1/4 pack of quick rise yeast into a gallon of any juice with no preservatives that doesn't need to be refridgerated, drill a hole in the top of the container (preferably the same gallon jug the juice came in)run an airtight tube (like fishtank tubing) from the top of the container into another container of just water. Seal the juice container with silicon sealant- This ensures that the yeast have no oxygen to use to grow, and instead they convert the sugar into alcohol. The CO2 that is produced will travel out of the juice container into the water container where it will bubble out, but won't let any air back in. Wait about a week untill the bubbling stops, and you have wine that is between 8% and 16% alcohol depending on the orginal sugar content. You can then add extra sugar to the mix to make it taste even better. Cran apple or cran grape is the best juice that I have found works so far.

^ i'm taking note of all that and i'm going to do that for new years.

i've had the stuff before, last fall, and it was pretty solid, i'd definately drink more of it, just it needs more alcohol in it, it was only 8%.

we tryed that once, had a thing of apple cider and put it in my friends locker and were planning on drinking it last day, cuz it woulda been really hard by then, but after about 2 weeks its exploded all over the place, it was sweet

same here. is that little thing you wrote detailed enough to completely do it? or is there any other little tricks we need to know?

yeaaahhh making cider is the shit, i love it... great easy project and so fun and good to drink once its ready!

only bad thing is... apple juice gives me a bad case of splatter ass.

im just buying real alcohol instead man

fuck i was going to make cider this year but when i read up on it all the information i could find said it took over 6 months to ferment

Kevo is there anything else we need to know or is that all the setup? (does it taste like shit?)

Lauren, you're staight gangsta.

hard cider is good. Living in maine with all the apple trees and such, we do a little bit of that.

Buy cider.

Let it sit.

strain it from one bottle to another, through a coffee filter or such, to take out the sediment shit that settles at the bottom after a while.

keep doing this.

for a while.

again.

don't forget to keep filtering.

try it.

probably needs to sit longer

wait a long time

drink it

Ok so here is the deal- That is pretty much it. I think it was Sean Pistol that said that his cyder exploded- that is because there was no way for Co2 building up to excape. Use the tube that goes into the container of water from the juice, Co2 escapes, allowing alcohol to be converted from the sugar. Remember, the juice container MUST BE AIRTIGHT. Drill a hole slightly larger than the tubing, and then seal it with silicone sealant. Oh yeah, pour a tiny bit of juice out first, because the tubing needs to be above the waterline inside the juice container to allow the air to escape, or else you risk the pressure building up and the juice going through the tube. You could add more sugar to the mix to begin with, even some spices too. The more sugar, the more alcohol, but you can never surpass the alcohol level where all the yeast naturally die. Different yeasts yeild different percentages, but super fast quick rise works really really well and it is super cheap. You could try to find some brewing yeast if you were so inclined, but I never have taken the time.

The one thing I left out is that you have to make sure that everything, including any drill you use to make a hole in the bottle and any tubing is 100% clean. If not, you could potentially grow a huge bacteria farm that would be harmfull to drink. This is rare, but worth the precaustion. Soon after the juice is done fermenting, it may be nontransparant. This is cause the yeast hasn't settled, and the brew is probably naturally carbonated. if you let it sit for a week after the bubbles stop and it is more clear or really clear, it is safe to drink, otherwise, it may have been contaminated with bacteria.

On a last note, I would experiment with many kinds of juices to find out what you like. Straight apple juice really tastes like shit if you ferment it, so you have to find other things that are good. We did this Wal Mart brand Lemonade, and that was really good...hmmm...anything cranberry or grape turns out pretty well too. You can always add more sugar afterward to make it taste better, but make sure the yeast is dead (no more bubbles coming out of the water container)before you add sugar and then cap it off and leave it, or it may explode when yeast tries to convert the new sugar.

One last thing, the natural sweetness of the juice is always lost due to this process bc of its sugar being converted to alcohol. Use juices that you can imagine would still taste ok if they weren't sweet!

FINAL THING- ACTUALLY MOST IMPORTANT THING- Check the label on the juice!!! If it has any preservatives in the ingrediants, dont use it. The preservatives kill the yeast and nothing happens. Drinks like Hawaiian Punch and others like it don't work because of this!

Oh, it was Hucker that had the thing explode...sorry bout that

fermenting....thats so grade 6

real men distill.

real men seem to need 200 bucks worth of glass ware and constant expensive chemicals to make sure theyre not drinking methanol, and end up producing shitty vodka piss. except for newfies, they get mad respect for their hooch.


kevo - thanks for the explanation man, im going to try that. Do you have more information on the bacteria thing, like any tests/or shit to see if its good?

and of course i cant resist adding shit - ive done some beer making at home and 1. i wouldnt reccommend brewing yeast, its slow and dies off at lower alchohol contents, try wine yeast instead maybe, and 2. to sterilize shit put a couple of tablespoons of bleach (javex or something) into a bucket of water, enough for it to smell like a really chloriny pool, and use that to wash shit it. just rinse it off really well after.

this a good thread.

today my special is cider mulled with lots of delicious cinnamon sticks and a little splash of the spiced captains! yummy