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Who fell harder?

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ski_and_distroy
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tanner?
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dummont?
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Oct 25 2005 10:43PM
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hippie_cat
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i think dumonts is harder, but anyone with better vision than your average 80 yearold can see tanner didnt hit pow, there might be a few inches of give in that at most.
when candide went splat, he made a 3 or so foot crater travelling at the same speed => softer snow
Nov 4 2005 6:18AM
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wskibum176
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defently dumont, but they both got fucked
Nov 4 2005 8:15AM
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WILSON
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Didn't Simon walk away from that? And didn't Tanner brake both his ankles? Soooooo wouldn't Tanner have fallen harder?
Nov 4 2005 12:27PM
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Subjekt
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walk away?
Nov 4 2005 12:30PM
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almostaskier
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i think he means: "hobbled up to the snowmobile with assitance from another dude after the crash to go to the hospital"
Nov 5 2005 6:34AM
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M+M
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simons just because it is a shit load scarier and you know your gona get fucked the whole time
Nov 5 2005 8:55AM
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lyndon
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seeing simons style is balls out all times, id give it to tanner.
Nov 5 2005 10:38AM
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martockpublicenemy
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look at the snow conditions, not exactley powder
Nov 5 2005 12:28PM
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martockpublicenemy
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tanner went 120 feet to steep uphill53 mph to 0 in a fraction of a second, he hit the snow so hard after he ejected, he bounced 5-6 feet in the air, dumont went like 70 feet to flat hardpack, both are extremely brutal, but i would say tanner
Nov 5 2005 12:34PM
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Ryno
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tanner never comes to a stop bro
Nov 5 2005 12:50PM
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bueyan
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ya i think simons looked alot worse but i think if you look at the x rays tanners would be just as bad with differnt bones
Nov 5 2005 1:30PM
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bueyan
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ya i think simons looked alot worse but i think if you look at the x rays tanners would be just as bad with differnt bones
Nov 5 2005 1:31PM
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CanadianSkiGod
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Simon , because imagine how he felt during those almost complete 10 seconds in the air. It was probably like "I'm going to die.."... 8 seconds... then BOOM.
Nov 5 2005 1:54PM
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PimpDaddySkier
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simonfor sure... he got so f'ed up
Nov 5 2005 1:57PM
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downhillracerfry
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simon, but it doesn't matter cuz they both got wicked messed up
Nov 5 2005 2:05PM
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jns^
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Just because he got messed up worse it doesn't mean he fell harder, just that he was unlucky. There's people who has slipped on an icy sidewalk and borken their neck, would you say they fell as hard as mike wilson when he broke his neck ?
Nov 6 2005 5:50AM
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pbandj
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that was a lot higher than 70' and tanner didn't go from 53 to 0 he tumbles which absorbs some of the impact...simon went SPLAT. simon def. had the worst of the two hands down, and i give him props for not acting ghetto and bitching about it
Nov 6 2005 3:26PM
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pbandj
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oh yeah i'd much rather have a couple broken ankles than a ruptured spleen, a ruptured spleen is life-threatening, a couple broken ankles means you're in a wheel chair for a few months, not in a coffin
Nov 6 2005 3:27PM
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rogerlodge
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def simon, powder opposed to hard pack plays a role also
Nov 6 2005 3:40PM
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knotbox
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you are a fucking idiot man they were both skinig crashes....think about it..if a dude was in a car adn slid out on ice and slmmed sideways into a pole...upon doing so became paralysed and got massive head trauma would it not be worse than if a dude rolled his car 10 times but came out with just a broken arma and a few scratches.....think about it you douchebag tanners crash was worse purely because his injuries were worse plain and simple there are facts to back that up
Nov 6 2005 8:20PM
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1080_grinder
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simon
Nov 6 2005 8:40PM
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pbandj
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^ok here are the facts..the thread says "who fell HARDER" ok tanner was going 53 mph and he crashed onto a few inches of snow that wasn't hard pack, dumont was going 60 mph and crashed on hard pack so therefor...dumont had a harder crash, and last i checked a couple of broken bones isn't as serious as a ruptured spleen
Nov 6 2005 8:42PM
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MarkieR
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and a broken pelvis
Nov 6 2005 8:44PM
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knotbox
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well basically tanner is still recovering whereas dumont is basically fully healed ruptured spleen is not as bad as it sounds whatever you guys reckon tanners was obviously worse for his career as he was outta skiing for longer...
Nov 7 2005 3:28AM
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Tze.C
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^ i don't know if your loyalty to tanner means you a fag or just a big fan
Nov 7 2005 6:54AM
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jns^
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just because the recovery time is longer doesnt mean the injury is worse. a ruptured spleen can be life threatening whereas some broken ankles just means wheelchair for som time.
Nov 7 2005 8:15AM
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cheddershredder
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dumont, you could hear the crash from the camera. it was rediculous.. i couldn't even watch it the first time.
Nov 7 2005 9:01AM
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kickerlicker
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DUUMOOnt
Nov 7 2005 9:02AM
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joker
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you are a tard. simon broke neither his back nor any limbs. don't make shit up and claim it as fact
Nov 7 2005 9:03AM
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knotbox
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dude its the facts plain and simple i arugue for what is right....plus T is a dope skier and noone on this site will say that the all rip on him and his gangsta image..they would rather watch ganier ruin our sport im just fighting to keep it alive...
Nov 7 2005 9:35PM
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AwR
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dumont just beacause tanner had somwhat of a softer landing
Nov 7 2005 9:36PM
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hiphopopotamus
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totally agree with that
Nov 7 2005 9:37PM
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kcck
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dummont fell harder, i mean, 100 foot drop seems painful, but tanner broke both ankles, and you can hear it in the original, so like both seem pretty extreme.
Nov 7 2005 9:45PM
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pbandj
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fuck tanner hall, people are like "oh if pipe is ever in the olympics we can all thank tanner" fuck off pipe in the olympics, our newschool style of skiing isn't olympic material, we have our own shit for that (ie the X games). personally i don't want every fucking 12 year old on twin tips thinking they're the shit lying down on th landings thinking they can do shit just because they saw tanner do it...ENOUGH ALREADY
Nov 7 2005 11:32PM
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knotbox
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^ dude freeride skiing is a lame adaptaion of snowboarding and snowboardin is in the olyompics so its juts natural fer it to follow
Nov 8 2005 3:51AM
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CorkWormTurn
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whoever said they did the physics...i call bullshit. If you wanted to do that right you would need a lot more info. The picture offtrail posted had the table length and landing length.

For simon's, you would need the takeoff height and angle, the landing height and angle, dumont's weight, and speed going into the jump. Pretty much the same for tanner's situation. That would still only give you a rough estimate of the amount of force they hit with, and I'm sure their position when they land factors into it. Basically there's so many factors that comparing with physics is kind of pointless.

How about the risks of each? My guess is that dumont was way closer to death, especially from a concussion or something involving his spine had he landed differently. On the other hand, if Tanner got a bad compound fracture of something like his femur, he could have bled to death before getting off the mountain.

I definitely disagree with anyone comparing based on who healed faster. My fractured wrist took 6 months and a surgery to heal. If I had a clean break in my forearm instead, it would have been like 6 weeks in a cast and done. Which sounds worse though, broken arm? or fractured wrist.

In the end, both were horrible crashes, and shoul remind you that at the highest level, skiing and boarding can be extremely dangerous. Pros are so practiced that stuff like that doesn't happen much, but the chance is always there.
Nov 8 2005 4:20AM
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jns^
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thats what i'm talking about
Nov 8 2005 5:59AM
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dylhole
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helmets would have really helped both of them
Nov 8 2005 6:02AM
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CorkWormTurn
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having the right speed would have helped them both more.
Nov 8 2005 8:08AM
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almostaskier
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indeed so.
Nov 8 2005 1:15PM
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casimiro
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I think simons crash is much more impressive looking than tanners... go simon
Nov 8 2005 1:19PM
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pbandj
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you could get a general idea though, and you'd only need their speed and how much of a crater they made
Nov 8 2005 1:28PM
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Antoine.
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aa Mr. Simon
Nov 8 2005 1:37PM
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espen^R
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simon, just imageine the feeling he had in air. my life would pass by in my head if i went that high and straight down to falt ground
Nov 8 2005 2:06PM
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ridethemountain
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Back from the question
Did u remember wilsons crash in aspen over the monster kicker with 56 meters
thats scary
Nov 8 2005 2:43PM
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dweezileast
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both of them are bad in separate ways. tanner came around from his 9, and had a split second to see that he was smoked. simon had about 2 or 3 seconds to telll himself that he was going to be in a lot of pain soon
Jan 31 2006 5:37PM
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smknbud420stoner
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simons looks way worse
Jan 31 2006 5:45PM
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