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BEST ALL MTN TWIN

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WBL636
Posts: 121 - Karma: 10
I need some help deciding on an all mountain twin. I have last years AR5's which i will sometimes use, but i want a ski that can do everything...be just as good in the park as on the groomers, trees, and powder. The workers at my local store said that either the ARV or MSP would be a good choice, especially because i wanted a wider ski for when i go to alta...but i cant decide between the two and time is running out...the only complaint they had of each was the MSP was a little stiff for my height and weight (5'11", 140 pounds) but that the ARV is a little soft for an all mountain ski...pleassee help
Oct 21 2005 8:04PM
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Aenigma
Posts: 11256 - Karma: 424
I use a pair of scratches for my all mounatin skiing and whenever I go in the park. I don't really know how they are in the powder since I always use my pocket rockets on powder days. But overall they've worked well, I've taken them down icy tree runs and off 20 foot cliffs and they've performed flawlessly there.
Oct 21 2005 8:07PM
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4skizzle
Posts: 2384 - Karma: 10
karma
Oct 21 2005 9:00PM
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Snowcase
Posts: 11456 - Karma: 634
i love my pe's
Oct 21 2005 9:04PM
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iridefattwins
Posts: 1126 - Karma: 16
get k2 public enemys they will rock ur socks
Oct 21 2005 9:32PM
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WBL636
Posts: 121 - Karma: 10
i havent had a good experience with K2 and i dont plan on buying one of their skis this year. What ski would be better between the MSP and ARV???
Oct 21 2005 9:48PM
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C.J.
Posts: 5460 - Karma: 72
I would say pe's as the best all mountain ski, what was your bad experience?
Oct 21 2005 9:57PM
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iridefattwins
Posts: 1126 - Karma: 16
the emenmys are fat enought fro pow but not fat to fat so they bone u in the park get the eemys there a solid buy
Oct 21 2005 10:04PM
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chapz
Posts: 10182 - Karma: 66
k2 pe.
Oct 21 2005 10:48PM
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rrjames
Posts: 298 - Karma: 15
pe's or ar5's
Oct 21 2005 11:01PM
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BillyMFBadass
Posts: 576 - Karma: 10
msp msp msp msp msp msp msp msp msp msp msp msp msp msp msp msp msp msp msp msp by 4frnt
Oct 21 2005 11:19PM
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marik
Posts: 556 - Karma: 10
karma or p.e.
Oct 21 2005 11:50PM
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troublemakerCO
Posts: 458 - Karma: 10
good list

get the karma or the bc. and yea i dont really like the PEs either, but my buddy loves em....so just a matter of what u like ur ski to feel like. and if u r like that, u best demo every ski b4 you buy it, or its going to really piss u off in the long run. oh yea, i would have bought the new fs, but i ski bumps and that is a little 2 wide 4 my def of a one ski quiver. im pretty light 2, so that plays a part.
Oct 22 2005 1:35AM
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peter.doubleu
Posts: 1167 - Karma: 13
well if you want a wider all round twin go with the big trouble
Oct 22 2005 1:31PM
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zepscratch
Posts: 3517 - Karma: 36
if your mostly park the pe's but like 50/50 i would go for the karma's
Oct 22 2005 1:48PM
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Elijah.
Posts: 9322 - Karma: 76
its definately the K2 Seth Pistols or 1080Foils... The Karmas are sweet too
Oct 22 2005 1:59PM
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french_fry
Posts: 4698 - Karma: 53
I ride ARV's and they are an awesome all mountain ski, not too stiff so your legs won't fall apart, and this year's are supposed to be even lighter so you can fly in the park. If you are a more heavyweight skier with strong legs then go for the Scratch BC that is supposed to be quite stiff or the Volkl Gotama
Oct 22 2005 2:49PM
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Jib_This
Posts: 8272 - Karma: 9
Chronic Wide, Prophet 100, ARV, and maybe the Foil. Look into those.

The ARV is softer and has more sidecut than the MSP. it's an easier ski to ski, but it hauls ass nonetheless. Good on groomed, great in pow, you'll like it.
Oct 22 2005 3:09PM
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waynewong
Posts: 1359 - Karma: 23
Hands down the k2 outlaw

The PE has nothing on this ski, no park ski touches it and the tail is enough for full switch craziness....

A little pricey but man you get it going backwards at warp speeds and it feels like you have world cup control
Oct 22 2005 3:15PM
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=nick=
Posts: 10471 - Karma: 2,182
troublemakers are sick in the park but respond well on the whole mountain. might wanna look into them
Oct 22 2005 4:11PM
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00000000
Posts: 11075 - Karma: 82,508
i really like the foil when i tried it last year
Oct 22 2005 4:13PM
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WBL636
Posts: 121 - Karma: 10
k thanks for all the help.. i am about to go pick em up and im probably gonna get the ARV's enless the shop tells me to get the 4frnts...thanks for the other skis, but they only carry 4frnt armada and k2, and i ruled out k2 fairly early on...thanks for all your help
Oct 22 2005 4:20PM
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