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A question of style

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Online_Ninja
Posts: 220 - Karma: 51
ok here it is...

do you think that in a big air competition, that a REALLY dope 180 should be able to beat a cab 10 blunt?

i think it should, if the 180 is just that sick.
Oct 18 2005 2:40PM
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maxamas
Posts: 796 - Karma: 2,644
still havnt seen that 180 in skiing that benedek threw, to turn snowboarding comps in the direction they are at now. it should just come down to absolute style.
Oct 18 2005 2:43PM
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williams
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if its a solid sw 10. it should win
Oct 18 2005 2:44PM
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Lineskier-101
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In a couple insances I think it can, laurants would have if he stuck it imo, but that's only because everyone was throwing 10's.
Oct 18 2005 2:45PM
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skisquaw@420
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it would have to be a fucking dope 180 to beat a 10
Oct 18 2005 2:45PM
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SteveStepp
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if your skilled enough to throw a switch 10, im pretty sure theres going to be some style in it

it should def. beat a 180, because theres not much you can do with a 180(not to put down a sick 180)
Oct 18 2005 2:47PM
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Vicious
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I don't know man...I've seen plenty of switch 10s that were landed, but looked nothing but hucked.
Oct 18 2005 2:50PM
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Lineskier-101
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ooops, I though you were talking about zero's, no I don't think a 180 should beat a 10.
Oct 18 2005 2:51PM
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Sashac
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no you fucking retard. anyone can do 180's and make it look stylie. i mean youre not even spinning. just cause you cant do cab 10 blunts and think you should win every single pro comp with your "floaty 180s".... shutup
Oct 18 2005 2:52PM
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dorikin
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Yea dude that is a great point. Style should definitely have some bearing. But also, on the other hand, it is a BIG AIR competition. Meaning: GO BIG. I think this confusion is why big air skiing basically is dead. It is just to hard to judge.
Oct 18 2005 2:52PM
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SteveStepp
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yea i agree with that, but im talking about if it were a big comp witha big jump, theres probably gonna be some room for style
Oct 18 2005 2:53PM
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casimiro
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I have always liked anything slow, smooth and stylish. I think it takes just as much skill to toss a huge 180 or a zero as hucking a 1080. It is hard to find what equals what. that is the problem with a judged sport, it is opinion. that is why moguls took such a hit in the late 90's because of the idea that one trick should score so much and look like so. I wish there was some way to make a larger 180, 360, 540, or simple misty or something score well with the judges. but the crowds at comps always go nuts when someone spins a 1080 and is kinda of quiet when someone spins a 180. shit my opinion is unorganized but i really like the idea behind your thread...
Oct 18 2005 2:57PM
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holyDINOSAURS
Posts: 7038 - Karma: 639
maybe not 180...but i do think lower spins should be scored higher...jut imagine..slooow switch cork 5 true nose...or switch 10 blunts. nd besides switch 10s are played
Oct 18 2005 2:58PM
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KeegLove
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competitions like big air or slopestyle shood all be about the styliest tricks thrown not the so called "most technical" so if it was a reeeeeely sic' 180 i think it shood beat a fakie 10 if its not perfect, but like cork 3's and stuff shood be beating hucked fakie tens all the time but it just seems like things arent reely goin that way as far as judging goes at the moment but i think the k2 back nine comp will be the first of this kind to ever hit skiing, style over technical difficulty
Oct 18 2005 2:59PM
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IHOP
Posts: 2155 - Karma: 19
I totally agree with this guy. Doing good 180s takes very little skill in comparison to a cab 10 blunt. The only way i could imagine a 180 beating anything bigger than a 360 is if the skier took his skis off in mid air and yelled out "MONSTER TRICK!" super loud.
Oct 18 2005 2:59PM
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casimiro
Posts: 1350 - Karma: 15
one more thing, big air comps are almost just a show now that a resort puts on for its tourists and the contestants are becoming entertainers like circus freaks..just a thought so judging does'nt mean shit
Oct 18 2005 2:59PM
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millhouseskis
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what if a competitor throws a super stylie 180 because he or she can't throw a 10?
Oct 18 2005 3:00PM
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*rkp*
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then they shouldnt be in that comp in the first place
Oct 18 2005 4:24PM
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cork5_thovex
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if the sw 10 blunt was ugly as fuck than the super steezy 180 would beat it but it is a sw blunt 10. the sw blunt 10 would win in my book, as long as it had a ounce of style.
Oct 18 2005 4:27PM
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lalalalaura
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I was thinking about this the other day... I wish comps varied from comp to comp, and on the day of, the judges told the riders what they were looking for. This would remove the cab 10 winning every single comp, as some competitions would focus more on tech-rail stuff, others on fluidity, others on amplitude, etc. So like, one weekend the judges are all "we want to see you kids huck your meat, then stomp it" while the next being "we want to see you kids ski as stylishly as you can", and maybe even another (which would be so sick to watch mind you) "we want you kids to show us what we didn't think was possible, it's time to get creative." This would remove any confusion and controversary as to why X beat X... (Just a thought.)
Oct 18 2005 4:41PM
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matthasaurusrex
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judgs like you spin big go now
Oct 18 2005 4:43PM
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Mr.Bishop
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My two main points on this issue:

1) If cab 10's win every time, we should just start being aerialists.

2) A 180 won the USOpen snowboard big air a few years ago. IT was just that sick.

No matter how well you do a 10, there's absolutely no way it can be as stylish as a slow rotation. Style just scores no points in skiing comps.
Oct 18 2005 4:45PM
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Jessbuff
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Anyone see the "corked" 180? That was pretty stylie. But I can't really justify giving a 180 a better score than a 1080. I mean I can do a 180. (not with smooth style tho but still, I can't even do half a 10)
Oct 18 2005 5:00PM
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martockpublicenemy
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i think it should be all about the cab 7
Oct 18 2005 5:06PM
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renojames
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I think a 180 beating a 10 is a little extreme, unless the 10 is really shitty and hucked. That said, I think slower, smaller rotations loaded with style almost always look better than 10s. Tech should count for something, but style needs to start having a larger impact on scores.
Oct 18 2005 5:09PM
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beaulieudavid
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yeah but how a really style smooth sw 7 could beat the cab 10 mute at TJ at the US OPEN and those of gagnier, olsson etc
Oct 18 2005 5:18PM
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ItsPhil
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there can be alot more wow factor with a smooth and styled 180 than with a hucked 10...and you have to respect it, so yea a 180 could beat a 10 in my opinion
Oct 18 2005 6:29PM
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quebecfreestyler
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Wwell the way benedek does his 2 bs 180 is more like a 180 one way stop rotate body completly to the other direction, (180 the other way) then cgoing back at normal 180. without waving ANDgoing just as big as it was humanly possible.
Oct 18 2005 6:35PM
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thatoneguyattyrol
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shifty five is the trick that should win, its difficult, and even more difficult to do with style.

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Oct 18 2005 6:41PM
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eheath
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I think a super dope switch cork 7 should beat a switch 10.
Oct 18 2005 6:45PM
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Pklink04
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i think a sick zero would be sweet to see, like pep in 1242, or one of the phils i forget, i wanna say larose, but their zeros are sick
Oct 18 2005 6:50PM
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eheath
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Larent Favre, end of story.
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Oct 18 2005 7:02PM
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