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Riley.
Posts: 2214 - Karma: 259
MSP 180s or 183stls?.....east coast, 60%park 40% rest of the shit out thrrrr.
Oct 18 2005 1:05AM
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japanada
Posts: 13785 - Karma: 1,956
MSP
Oct 18 2005 1:12AM
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Riley.
Posts: 2214 - Karma: 259
The graphics on the msps this year are kinda lame though...and domt give me bullshit about graphics dont matter cause they do play a role in your decision.
Oct 18 2005 1:32AM
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Deezl
Posts: 2112 - Karma: 8
Dude come on, are you seriously going to pick a ski that will be less than ideal just because of graphics?
Oct 18 2005 1:35AM
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grambo
Posts: 1125 - Karma: 93
MSP graphic is dope, you are an idiot if you pick STL unless you are 100% east park riding.
Oct 18 2005 1:37AM
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TheStamos
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those are 2 different skis, you cannot pick on graphic's....... whata moron get msp's, focus on your stryle not the ski color you make the look good
Oct 18 2005 1:37AM
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dorikin
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Graphics don't matter no...graphics on MSP's are the shit though. I fucking love em.
Oct 18 2005 1:51AM
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IHOP
Posts: 2155 - Karma: 19
I like the new MSP graphics, there clean.
Oct 18 2005 2:40AM
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Anathema
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why would you need fat skis for the east coast?
Oct 18 2005 3:11AM
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Scott_Morgan
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i think they are sick too but graphics do play a role, casue you still wanta look dope on the slops!
Oct 18 2005 3:11AM
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OReJow
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MSP's aren't alot fatter than karma's which everyone thinks is the perfect east coast ski.
Oct 18 2005 7:08AM
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johanblaze
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get last years msp's if you hate this years so much.
Oct 18 2005 11:48AM
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gretch6364
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Does anyone know the history of 4frnt or where I could find such information...I was just wondering how they got started...who makes thier skis for them...where they are made...how long they have been around...you know things that would atest to them being a legitimate company rather than just a bunch of ski bums who hire some engineers to design a ski and then they contract it out to some factory owned by a major player in the business....thanks
Oct 18 2005 11:48AM
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OReJow
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I have heard they are made at the Option snowboard factory, but I don't know for a fact if that's true. They were started by Matt Sterbenz 3 years ago I think when he got sick of his sponsor (Fischer) not paying enough attention to freestyle. The MSP was there only ski to start, then last year they signed on Steel, and added the STL, and this year they added Vinnie and the VCT. I believe that getting a pro-model also makes you a part ower in the company, so that is pretty cool.
Oct 18 2005 11:54AM
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bcenemy
Posts: 253 - Karma: 10
And next year Eric Hjorleifsson is getting his pro model from 4FRNT...
Oct 18 2005 12:25PM
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Huckasorass
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They have an old machine from kneissl, one of the few that makes ptex sidewall skis, harder sintered polyethylene than your bases, which makes for very durable skis. Made in Canada, but the company is based in CA, and the skis rock
Oct 18 2005 12:57PM
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gretch6364
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So they are made with this machine that 4frnt owns at the Option snow board factory? Anyone know thier annual revenues or how many pairs of skis they make each year?

Thanks
Oct 18 2005 1:10PM
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*rkp*
Posts: 8198 - Karma: 258
yah its true they're made in the option factory and next year there is gonna be a karlstrom pro model.
Oct 18 2005 2:00PM
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dandoy
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So is Niclas Karlström
Oct 18 2005 2:27PM
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martockpublicenemy
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not really unless they have like gay porn on them, plus the stls are like some aerial map crap, and the msps are perfect for your needs
Oct 18 2005 5:16PM
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martockpublicenemy
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and anyway, msp chraphics are dope
Oct 18 2005 5:17PM
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Riley.
Posts: 2214 - Karma: 259
I got the 183 STLs
Oct 18 2005 8:42PM
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Riley.
Posts: 2214 - Karma: 259
Got em for 400 bucks brand new 06
Oct 18 2005 9:36PM
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Deezl
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That's a pretty good deal. Sounds like you made the right choice in my opinion.
Oct 18 2005 10:28PM
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skiforhead
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go with the msp youll love it
Oct 19 2005 12:07AM
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gretch6364
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I have a quick question for those that have skied the MSPs...what is up with the tiny tail and lack of a side cut? Does the skinny tail(compared to other skis with its waist and tip measurements) help keep it from washing out and give it more edge grip on hard pack? Does the 25m turn radias really keep it more stable at ultra high speeds like they suggest?

Thanks for any feedback

Nathan
Oct 19 2005 11:57AM
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bcenemy
Posts: 253 - Karma: 10
Wonder how that will be...prob. dope
Nov 30 2005 5:00PM
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4skizzle
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graphics shouldn't matter but i went with the arv's over the flites because i thought the flights were hideous.
Nov 30 2005 5:13PM
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