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Pete/Mike Olenick; only smart pros left?

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rastaride
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from their segment in WAR, it seems that these are the only pros smart enough to wear helmets
Oct 16 2005 4:49PM
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N.L.
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if your professional, why do you need a helmet>?

and for being so gangsta, im surpirised they use buckets...
Oct 16 2005 4:51PM
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zmanalex
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^because everyone has an off day
Oct 16 2005 4:52PM
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waynewong
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dumbest post ever...

maybe because your living s made from skiing and MANY of the best have been taken out int heir prime from preventable injuries
Oct 16 2005 4:53PM
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R-Bertsch
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just because theyre pros doesnt mean they cant ravage their head on a rail
Oct 16 2005 4:56PM
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ineedarealname
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actually lots of pros still wear helmets just not as much,skiers still wear helmets way more then snowboarders. they just figure that at competitions its more needed then other places.
Oct 16 2005 4:57PM
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Phrosty
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name one pro who has been saved by his helmet
Oct 16 2005 4:58PM
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mattyb.
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name one that got hurt not wearing one
Oct 16 2005 4:59PM
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C.Stone
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agreed
Oct 16 2005 5:01PM
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Lax_Bro40
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every single one who has helped out sport progress.. they werent always pro riders
Oct 16 2005 5:01PM
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Phrosty
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how many pro skateboarders (or any skateboarders for that matter) wear helmets? Stairs are a lot harder than snow.
Oct 16 2005 5:04PM
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alc
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its not just about weather they need a helmet, them wearing one sets a good example.
Oct 16 2005 5:05PM
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mattwalker
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the only one i can think of is rory will... way back in like 99 when he overshot at the open practice... but i dunno how much a helmet would of helped that situation
Oct 16 2005 5:06PM
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Phrosty
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yea, and btw everyone else wears knee and elbow pads under thier clothes too, and mouth guards, and cups, gotts protect the boys.
Oct 16 2005 5:07PM
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waynewong
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umm EVERY single skate park in the country requires you to wear one...every single halfpipe comp in the country requires you to wear one...

keep being an idiot
Oct 16 2005 5:09PM
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waynewong
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umm Seth and JP and Pep all wear mouth gaurds and full face helmets



keep trying
Oct 16 2005 5:11PM
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bmxican_89
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and everyonce in awhile they have a bad day hit there head and get knocked out. i would wear the helmet. who care how it looks. hitting your head is bad and wearing a helmet keeps you alive.
Oct 16 2005 5:12PM
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Phrosty
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Every skatepark? you must not skate very much. Anyway, as far as comps requiring them it's for liability.
Oct 16 2005 5:13PM
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skimanskimanskim
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wearing a helmet is smart
Oct 16 2005 5:13PM
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nothanks
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THE SCOTT HIBBERT. BOERI STEEZE.
Oct 16 2005 5:13PM
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Pklink04
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anthony also wears a mouth gaurd, but thats because he has like half his teeth. Seth wears on all the time too.
Oct 16 2005 5:14PM
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Phrosty
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it's not about how it looks it's about it being unnecessary
Oct 16 2005 5:15PM
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waynewong
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as someone who has lost two friends (both pros) to preventable head injuries and know of three other locals in tahoe who have been killed the past five seasons from preventable head injuries, any arguement aginst wearing them is juvenile and ignorant

I was wearing mine last season when I went down hard skiing high speed switch...grade three concusion, loss of memory etc.....if I was not wearing a helmet I was told that I would have been either dead or in a coma
Oct 16 2005 5:18PM
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waynewong
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so you know more than EVERY single head doctor in the nation???

you must be a brilliant man, why are you here and not curing cancer
Oct 16 2005 5:20PM
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rastaride
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i forgot about Scott hibbert. and Sammy Carlson wears them most of the time
Oct 16 2005 5:21PM
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waynewong
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During the past 15 years, there has been an average of 34 deaths per year among skiers and snowboarders. During 1999-2000 season, 30 fatalities occurred out of the 52.2 million skier/snowboarder days reported. Twenty-three of the fatalities were skiers (19 male, 4 female) and seven were snowboarders (6 male, 1 female). This equates to a fatality rate of 0.57 per million skier/snowboarder visits or 2.88 deaths per million on-slope participants. Sixty percent of all fatal injuries in skiing involve head injuries. The most common cause of fatal injury is classified as "skier lost control, hit tree." Most fatalities in skiers occur in the same population that exhibits "high-risk behavior." Victims are predominantly male (85%), in their late teens to early 20s (70%), possess better than average experience, go at a high rate of speed at the margin of an intermediate trail. This is the same group who sustain 74% of the fatal car crashes and 85% of all fatal industrial accidents.
Oct 16 2005 5:22PM
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Phrosty
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of course wearing one would help if you ever hit your head, but how often is that? I don't think it's enough to justify wearing one. You're argument is so stupid, why even do anything that has risks, wrap yourself in bubble wrap and sit in your bedroom.
Oct 16 2005 5:23PM
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ct
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a lot of them wear them in comps
Oct 16 2005 5:24PM
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waynewong
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why wear a seatbelt or have a car with airbags???


wow great debater you are
Oct 16 2005 5:24PM
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VTfreeskier
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"name one pro who has been saved by his helmet"

Kids on NS dont hear of every single fall a pro has on a regular trainign day so your argument leads us nowhere.
Oct 16 2005 5:25PM
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TWoods
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I believe it was mike nick... one of the original line guys would be dead if i wasn't for a helmet. completly cracked his helmet in half.
Oct 16 2005 5:26PM
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Phrosty
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all year long I hear about people dieing while skiing on the news, 95% of those people were from kansas here on a church retreat and they ran into a tree.
Oct 16 2005 5:26PM
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Phrosty
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whatever pussies I hope you're wearing your hemet when I come crashing into you on the mountain because I've had way too much to drink during lift rides and couldn't care less who I run into.
Oct 16 2005 5:28PM
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waynewong
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http://www.snowcrest.net/palmore/willmain.html

here is the web page of my friend who dies skiing with me at estelle bowl at alpine meadows from a head injury

profession skier and one time roomate dead from preventable head injury
Oct 16 2005 5:30PM
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AKFREERIDE
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I was really impressed with those two. Im glad that those two park skiers realize how hard, and nerve racking big mountain skiing is. it takes an amazing amount of skiing skill to switch from park skiing where turning and such isnt that important, to big mountain skiing where a certain turn may mean your either dead or crusin. props to those two.
Oct 16 2005 5:32PM
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Alkyy
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one of my dads best friends died 3 seasons ago because he wasnt wearing a helmet skiing, he was around 45 years old, skied since he was a kid and one of the best skiers i have ever rode with, he got cut off on an intermediate trail trying to avoid a little kid and lost his balance and went into the woods and hit his head on a rock...so its not just the kansas people on a church retreat who get hurt
Oct 16 2005 5:38PM
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D-40
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i somewhat agree with phrosty even though i wear a helmet. i think people that wear them gain a lot more confidence while riding because they arent as afraid that they will hurt their head in the park or whatever. but if you are totally comfortable and it doesnt make you any more confident or less nervous then you probably dont need one. i dont know its just what i think
Oct 16 2005 5:39PM
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thatoneguyattyrol
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the real thing about this argument is this, there is no reason not to wear a helmet. they dont get in the way, dont obstruct your vision, and definately build confidence......I see a lot of kids in the park who wont wear helmets because their favorite pro has set the example that its not cool to wear one....so big ups to the olenicks, morrison, and anyone else who is more concerned with skiing and living then how they look on the hill.

www.snowcoupons.com
Oct 16 2005 5:44PM
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Phrosty
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same deal with shin guards.
Oct 16 2005 5:47PM
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t3shellvenom
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at freshtival riders were forced to wear a helmet. tj schiller does lots and so do the olenicks
Oct 16 2005 5:56PM
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martockpublicenemy
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so does abma and douglas and sometime pollard,
Oct 16 2005 5:56PM
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Genome
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always wear a helmet or else you can never been 100%safe
Oct 16 2005 5:57PM
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SteveStepp
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its not a matter of being smart, its a matter of opinion
Oct 16 2005 5:59PM
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montanaskier
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i'm curious as to how many skiers hitting trees or rocks at high speed are saved by helmets. some level of injury prevention is undeniable, but this idea that helmets are necessary saviors to be worn by everyone at all times is absurd.
Oct 16 2005 6:02PM
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pat-rickdaigle
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i wear one because i've got a few more concusions then doctors reccomend and a few more could be my last.
Oct 16 2005 6:02PM
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XxLibertYxX
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sammy!!
Oct 16 2005 6:03PM
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Montana-boy
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Helmets look dumb, but they might help you if you hit yore head.
Oct 16 2005 6:04PM
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martockpublicenemy
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3 seasons ago when i was just starting to get into freestyle skiing, i took a bad fall onto my head and got a third degree concussion and quite a bit of memory loss, my friend found me wondering around the lodge,not knowing where i was, and i thought it was january, but it was march and i didnt remember how to do ant basic math, scary shit.It would have been worse if i hadnt beenwearing a helmet and i never ever ski without one.
Oct 16 2005 6:05PM
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Coalescent
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chris dufficy.....pro snowboarder....
Oct 16 2005 6:10PM
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pat-rickdaigle
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yeah i had just got goggles the day i got my concusion and they came off when i crashed and when my friend went to give them to me i wouldnt take them because i told him i didn't have goggles and the only way i took them was he convinced me to take them as a gift, when i told my mom i got goggles as a gift she brought me to the hospital because she was the one who got them for me.
Oct 16 2005 6:13PM
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TheStamos
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there required in comp's.
Oct 16 2005 6:35PM
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