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Karma vs. Mojo 90

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mordy07
Posts: 32 - Karma: 10
Hey I'm looking into some new skis this year, and right now I've narrowed it down to volkl karmas or head mojo 90s. I do mostly all mountain and some backcountry, with a little park skiing as well. Any recommendations?
Oct 5 2005 12:39AM
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troublemakerCO
Posts: 458 - Karma: 10
thats a toss up. both skis r really great. if i had 2 choose, id have 2 go with the karma, just cus its $100 cheaper and should handle the park a little better (espec. switch).

good choices tho...
Oct 5 2005 12:43AM
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Arabian.
Posts: 9648 - Karma: 240
go with surface skis. new company, new make same good ol surface steeze.
Oct 5 2005 12:44AM
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Toothlesstom
Posts: 143 - Karma: 18
Out of the 2 I would go with the karma...I rode last years models of the heads and the volkls and both were sick but the karmas are better in park as said earlier
Oct 5 2005 12:58AM
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Durtschi
Posts: 6897 - Karma: 1,878
Mojos are sick!
Oct 5 2005 3:45AM
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montanara
Posts: 162 - Karma: 10
the mojo 90 are good skis, but theyre nothing spectacular. id go with the kharmas...
Oct 5 2005 3:52PM
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4skizzle
Posts: 2384 - Karma: 10
^karmas or look at the salomon foil.
Oct 5 2005 4:06PM
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Love_Wins.
Posts: 5536 - Karma: -1
Get the Karma for sure, much better all around ski.
Oct 5 2005 4:08PM
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Tinga
Posts: 11349 - Karma: 2,333
wow volkl has really steeped it up in the last few years get the karma
Oct 5 2005 4:19PM
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troublemakerCO
Posts: 458 - Karma: 10
id say that the gun has more in common w/ the karm and 90 then the foil...
Oct 5 2005 4:53PM
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Love_Wins.
Posts: 5536 - Karma: -1
The Karma would rock the pants off both of those Salomon boards though, so it's not even an issue.....get the Karma.
Oct 5 2005 5:43PM
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4skizzle
Posts: 2384 - Karma: 10
True, the foil comes in a 182 with a 87mm waste though. The foil is actually a little wider in the tip. All 4 skis are about the same, just depends on what size you're looking for.
Oct 5 2005 6:09PM
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gretch6364
Posts: 851 - Karma: 8
This is a question Iam currently contemplating...probably going to go with whichever one I can find cheaper...I am looking for which one is better all-mountain not which one is better in the park
Oct 16 2005 7:39PM
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mad_540_trix
Posts: 2452 - Karma: 14
the mojos will be awesome for all mountain, and alright for park (it sounds like u don't do 2 much park anyways)
Oct 16 2005 7:55PM
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gretch6364
Posts: 851 - Karma: 8
I have a pair of 177 chronics for the park...so these would be more of a designated all mountain ski...I am thinking 185 or the 186 depending on which ski
Oct 16 2005 8:52PM
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paprika
Posts: 360 - Karma: 10
Ive got a quick question about the Mojo 90. Im probably gonna get the Mojos this year and Ive got a quick cosmetical question about the ski that I havent figured out. Are both of the skis the same, the black topsheet with the orange detail and the orange base, or is one ski topsheet the black one and the other ski topsheet the orange one??
Oct 17 2005 2:29AM
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4skizzle
Posts: 2384 - Karma: 10
^ one is black and one is red.
Oct 17 2005 10:46AM
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paprika
Posts: 360 - Karma: 10
Does anyone know if when they sell them do they give you a choice in taking two skis with the black topsheet or do they have to sell them one with the black and one with the orange?
Oct 17 2005 1:07PM
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4skizzle
Posts: 2384 - Karma: 10
if you can find someone who wants 2 red skis they will sell you two black ones. they're ment to come one black one red.
Oct 17 2005 1:11PM
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gretch6364
Posts: 851 - Karma: 8
The Mojo's have a wider profile (124-89-117) than the Karma's (119-87-111) so the Mojo's should float better in Powder....I wish I could find the Mojo's for under 650...I found the Karma's for 550...anyone know a good place to get the Mojo's....besides my local shop?
Oct 17 2005 1:14PM
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4skizzle
Posts: 2384 - Karma: 10
^tahoedemocenter.com ask for John he's an english guy. Tell him Kyle said hi and that you want a good price on a pair of mojos.
Oct 17 2005 1:19PM
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gretch6364
Posts: 851 - Karma: 8
I sent him an email...thanks Alot. His name is "Jon" right...sounds english...do they sell skis or just demo?

Thanks
Oct 17 2005 1:40PM
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4skizzle
Posts: 2384 - Karma: 10
they sell, demo, rent, what ever you want. They do the best hot waxes in the world.
Oct 17 2005 1:45PM
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paprika
Posts: 360 - Karma: 10
Thanks for clearing that up for me 4skizzle. Just wondering, do you know what the site was that had all the ski pics from the SIA show or do you know where I can see both skis together?
Oct 17 2005 1:45PM
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4skizzle
Posts: 2384 - Karma: 10
head.com might have them up. they are definitely on here but the search bar isn't working....Um maybe google 'head mojo 90' or something. They are definitely a cool looking ski.
Oct 17 2005 1:48PM
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Tha_Grouch
Posts: 2216 - Karma: 14
i'd go with the mojo... volkls break constantly. Head's are tanks.
Oct 17 2005 2:31PM
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gretch6364
Posts: 851 - Karma: 8
There are way to many different skis out there...anyone know how stiff the 4frnt MSP's are...not the supermodel..which are 800 bucks (to much for me)?
Oct 17 2005 2:32PM
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4skizzle
Posts: 2384 - Karma: 10
medium flex, kinda like the karmas.
Oct 17 2005 2:40PM
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gretch6364
Posts: 851 - Karma: 8
well I just bought last years MSP's (brand new) in 180cm...hope they are faster than my 177 chronics...got them for 425...not an aweful deal...4frnt's warranty says one year from purchase and does not mention any limitations on previous years skies so hopefuly if something goes wrong they hold up thier warranty...hope I made a good decision
Oct 17 2005 3:48PM
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4skizzle
Posts: 2384 - Karma: 10
where did you find them?
Oct 17 2005 3:53PM
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gretch6364
Posts: 851 - Karma: 8
d-structure...anyone have any advice on mounting point? Want these for all-mountain...not park
Oct 17 2005 3:55PM
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4skizzle
Posts: 2384 - Karma: 10
for all mtn....Um definitely not center. Maybe -3 or so?
Oct 17 2005 3:57PM
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gretch6364
Posts: 851 - Karma: 8
I know not center....I don't think the suggested mark on them is center...I hope my ski shop knows what they are doing
Oct 17 2005 3:58PM
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gretch6364
Posts: 851 - Karma: 8
By the way...I jsut got an email from 4frnt and they were really cool and said that it is one year from purchase date even though they were left overs from last year...which is how it should be..thanks 4frnt
Oct 17 2005 4:08PM
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Tha_Grouch
Posts: 2216 - Karma: 14
^wow... i saw a pair for $300 with bindings.. brand new. $425 is a lot.
Oct 17 2005 11:38PM
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gretch6364
Posts: 851 - Karma: 8
Well considering there is not a pair of bindings out there worth skiing for under 200 I say you are full of shit
Oct 18 2005 10:45AM
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Tha_Grouch
Posts: 2216 - Karma: 14
really... well I maybe Christy's sports is full of shit too. Don't be all pissed off cause you got a raw deal.
Oct 18 2005 12:58PM
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gretch6364
Posts: 851 - Karma: 8
I am not pissed...I am just saying you/he are full of shit...never did I say I felt I got a raw deal...you mean to tell me they are selling last years $600 skis with a decent binding - I am talking like a Pivot 14ti - which runs 200-250 new for 300 bucks? I would like to see proof
Oct 18 2005 1:12PM
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OReJow
Posts: 1739 - Karma: 9
^^ If you really saw that deal, you're an idiot for not buying them. if you didn't want em for yourself you could have sold them on here for at least $450 if the bindings were good. At least $450.
Oct 18 2005 1:24PM
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617jibber
Posts: 2391 - Karma: 28
go with the mojo
Oct 18 2005 3:01PM
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Scott_Morgan
Posts: 153 - Karma: 10
ya the mojo is a sick ski but a little $$$, if you can aford it go for it
Oct 18 2005 3:34PM
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Public_Maverick
Posts: 3255 - Karma: 11
have you demod them?
doubtful
Oct 18 2005 5:34PM
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4skizzle
Posts: 2384 - Karma: 10
they're stiff as hell.
Oct 18 2005 5:42PM
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Tha_Grouch
Posts: 2216 - Karma: 14
I didn't really give two shits. Those things suck... and the bindings were crap. But still i'm not full of shit. You people just don't know how to find deals.
Oct 18 2005 6:06PM
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gretch6364
Posts: 851 - Karma: 8
You are the one supporting Jibij with thier lame website and rediculous prices
Oct 19 2005 9:57AM
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Tha_Grouch
Posts: 2216 - Karma: 14
^WOW... dude. You are retarded. 1)how is their website lame? 2) their prices aren't high and 3)Last years 4frnts delammed like it was their job.. so why would I waste my money on them? .. waste my time buying them, finding a buyer, shipping them, handling them... it wouldn't be worth it to me to make like $50.
Oct 19 2005 9:45PM
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gretch6364
Posts: 851 - Karma: 8
First of all thier website is a pain to navigate...all the products are just thrown in one big catagory and you have to look through them all...secondly what is up with on little kid modeling everything..who wants to see that face all the time?
Oct 20 2005 11:11AM
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Tha_Grouch
Posts: 2216 - Karma: 14
ok buddy, you obviously don't know anything about the internet... you can search by brand name and type of equipment... you don't have to look at everything.

And you still haven't proved anything about price. They sell as low as the companies allow them to sell at.

Don't talk shit if you don't even know what you are talking about.
Oct 20 2005 12:49PM
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OReJow
Posts: 1739 - Karma: 9
I don't think it makes any sense to have an online store if you can't order online.
Oct 20 2005 12:51PM
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Tha_Grouch
Posts: 2216 - Karma: 14
its more personal.. and in touch with the customer if you are directly speaking to the owner/person who is sending your stuff... I don't think its stupid at all. In fact I think its a very good business move on behalf of Jibij.
Oct 20 2005 12:55PM
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