WHAT A BITCH, KANYE IS RETARDED

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crudiduds, beat me to it...

totally agree.

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oh yeah?? what did they do with terry schaivo?

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Sep 9 2005 10:55AM

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thats soo ridiculous my god i am speechless

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have you been to detroit lately? two new stadiums, casinos, ect...not exactly a shithole.

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i shood have better explained that i totally agree with kanye, fuck bush guys fuck him he doesnt care about black people and that is sooooo gay it makes me very angry

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he can fucking talk all the shit he wants cuz of freedom of speech

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once again, its not so much what he said, but when and where he said that is very stupid... it was a fund raiser, heck, this guys makes music, if he wanted to say this out to the public, he could write a song, and millions of people would listen to it. now, well, a lot of peopleare ticked at him for what he did, and rightfully so.

also, it takes no "balls" whatsoever to bash bush for no reason and say things like that. just simple minded stupidity. i think thats pretty standard.

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there's a lot of people praising him for what he did too....

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Detroit currently ranks as the 4th poorest large city in the nation. (New Orleans ranks 9th)

http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/30/pf/city_county_rankings/

In 2004, Detroit ranks 6th worst in pollution (particles).

http://www.citymayors.com/environment/polluted_uscities.html

Its hard to find recent numbers for crime rates, but its still quite bleak. In 2002 Detroit managed to rank #9 crime rates for large cities. In 2003 it became â€œthe most violent big city in America.â€?

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004902.html

...and this article from a Detroit newspaper from last year.

http://www.detnews.com/2004/metro/0405/25/d01-162833.htm

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so true man, everyone just wants another reason to bitch at bush, its like a new fucking trend.

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what, you mean him saying blatant lies about George Bush being a racists, and not craing about black people? like a dude said way up there, what the heck is Condi Rice? Colin Powell? norwegian?

what he said was ignorant, and unfounded. that it was a fiasco for what did not happen fast enough, sure. but does it mean that George bush does not like black people? dude, that does not follow. if i were to see a kid at a skatepark fall, get hurt, but not rect reight away thinking he was ok, then its an error on my part, but does not mean i hate the kid, or his race for that matter.

its called extrapolation, and kenye was utterly wrong in saying Bush doesn't like black people. its appaling he played a race card in a time like this, when we are supposed to stand together, when those are not "his people"... he is not poor, he grew up in the suburbs, and went to college (although he dropped out, which he managed to glorify as something wonderful), these are not his people, except by race.

and to say a thing like that does not help anyone, it makes the gap and double standard bigger. if something happens to a jew, we hear holocaust, no matter what. if an arabe gets searched at airport security, you can be sure to hear about it on the news. and if a black person is portrayed negatively, then it must be a racist move.

George Bush does not hate black epople, kanye was bitter because someone portrayed a black person as a looter, when white people were not... to me, that means he thinks that black people can do no wrong, and all white people do, and that the "media" is lying. well, that is ignorant, because people of ALL RACES make mistakes and do bad things. I mean, suicide bombers? yeah. KKK? yep. Nazis? yep... i think a lot of people have done horrible things, and to say someone of a race did something wrong, well, hey, they just might have.

to extrapolate like Kanye did is absurd, and stupid.

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this basically sums up my thoughts on the matter..
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Sep 9 2005 2:41PM

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watch what?

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shit, my page refreshed and i lost it all!! to point form then..
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If you think that since Bush appointed Powell and Rice...he's got ubber love for african-americans. Wow. I have some land in the Sahara I'd like to sell you buddy.

I think West spoke from his heart and expressed what many in the black community feel. Yes it is Bush's fault. That's what leaders do, they take the blame when things go wrong and get to work to make things right. Oops, but you'd have to actually have initiative and not be so damn sensitive to criticism. Gee no wonder pappy bush keep junior out of nam. His caught in the headlights act would not have wash well over there. So when are the right wingers ever going to grow up and stop believing in tooth fairy Bush? Never. he's got a direct channel into their thick humvee heads.

I can't say that George Bush hates anyone. I don't know the man. I disagree with most of his policies, but I don't know him. But I will say this: he took his sweet time.

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Sep 9 2005 3:11PM

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yeah, but im not a right winger, and im no brainwashed bafoon... i just do not think it is legit for anyone to say he is a racist, and even though i believe it was afiasco, it does not mean, he took his time... last i checked, he does not have the training to organize a rescue operation of that magnitude... so iys not like he is DIRECTLY at fault. but yes, as prez he shoudl take some blame.

but to say he is a racist for it? no. sorry, but no. Kanye was way outta line, even though he speaking from his heart. if there was a down syndrmic person in front of me, would i be justified in saying: "you're a retard" even if it is from the heart? no.

say it in a song, not somewhere where you can alienate the people likely to donate money to help out, who just might support bush, hey, iyt IS the USA right? if he had said that in france, different storry, everyone would agree.
it was tactless.

and like you said, you don't knwo the guy, hell, you don't know much of what really went on in his mind and how things went from his point.

so don't make sweeping assumptions man. its not like him showing up on the ground would have helped anything, be it sooner or later.

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It's true you fucktard.

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^^^
That was referring to white man putting crack into the black communities... Happened during the reagen(sp?) era.

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just a random rant..
how many of us.. not politicians, just us would have stayed an extra 2 days on vacation at this point? he may have been doing work, but I'll tell my boss at the end of my vacation that I'm just going to stay on the beach for 2 more days and telecommute - I doubt i'd still have my job. He appointed the man that's the head of FEMA, all accountability points to one person in a complete fuckup like this.

http://media.putfile.com/Peters-on-Bush-9-8-05

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A lot of people think that he just had the balls to say it on live TV

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He said what he had to say. I think a lot of people thought it was funny or stupid... but I commend him.

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If the hurricane was previewed to hit a rich white neighboorhoods then all of their evacuation would have been taken care of and this would have been a completely different story.

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^it did hit rich white neighborhoods

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Uh, thats 31 flavors of bullshit since you cant prove that. Keep dreaming.

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oh well, he can still make a beat better than anyone on this site. and he never said he was from the "ghetto"

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yeah i saw that then skipped it cause i was like wtf??

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that site gave a very biased, angry review of what happened, and kanye was portrayed as a greedy person. i think hes only speaking the truth, and drawing attention to the facts. why would he do this to promote his album? he's only telling it like it is.

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i do think that it was an inappropriate time for him to say all this shit though, not wrong to make the points, but wrong to take away from the fundraiser.

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Two Things.

First thing, thank you quinny for using common sense and taking out some time to make alot of valid points.
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Secondly, everyone needs to stop riding kanye's nuts. Simply put, the man is a bitch. I have lost all respect for him. Not just because he used an event to help raise money for hurricane victims as a platform to take cheap personal shots on a president during a time of emergency and need.
I don't like him because he is an arrogant asshole.

I'm friends with a guy who goes by Davey D. He's a host for a radio show over in Sac. Kanye West had come on the show about two weeks ago and he was completely arrogant. In summary he pretty much said "Nobody cares who you are... Look, I even forgot your name.. But everyone knows me, I'm Kanye west!... Play my record already, I know you have to." Then Kanye hung up on him..

Listen to it for yourself. Primarily the last two clips. Now, I know Davey D was a little out of line with some of the questions and how he pushed him, but it shows kanye's real character.

http://www.sacfam.com/store/process.php?PHPSESSID=514fd7547d6917e40db87e1f267fbe69&pname=ShowAlbumDetailsProcess-Start&CategoryID=CategoryID&AlbumID=2

and To top it off, Kanye just charged the church $25grand in order to use the song jesus walks.
How low is that? With the millions he is making right now, do you really think he needs it?

I recently talked to kanye. He was down in the bay area at a recording studio and came across some of my music. He wanted to do some work with me. Talking with him though, he is one of the cockiest guys out there. and I want nothing to do with him.

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Wasn't there a thread about this vid a few days before?
In the last thread a lot of people appreciated what he was telling- he says what a lot of people think right now

Sep 10 2005 3:49AM

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also seeing as kanye's song is not sound theologicaly (you walk with Jesus, not the other way around) and that he sings about his supposed faith, then goes on to sing about his sex addiction and whatnot...

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haha oh shit look at the expression on mike meyers face after kanye says george bush doesnt care about black people, priceless.

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Wow, I never heard that. My suspicions have been confirmed.

Honestly, I first thought his outburst on NBC was just a typical move by a celebrity to be political. (I.E. self retches, poorly thought out, poorly presented)

After seeing what you have said, it seems safe to confirm that his money is the only thing he cares about. Kanye West is just another self absorbed prick. I really hope somebody will put this guy in his place.

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i agree with you fully

Sep 10 2005 12:33PM

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oh wow, now that is prima donna.

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in the words of kanye's people...

hes "ignant"

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First, to your statement that Kanye's comments "follow the trend of making ridiculously unintelligent and uneducated statements" by liberals and democrats, I would say that unfortunately, that's how you get media attention in the USA. Bush says the stupidest shit on a continuous basis, but it gets him news coverage. The democrats have been way too pussy the past several years and they let the republicans walk all over them, I think they need to make bold statements like this and stand up for themselves.

Now, your other two points to "think about for a second" are both crap:

1) Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice. what are they, fuckin Norwegian?

- Colin Powell resigned, and is now giving interviews talking about how he doesn't agree with Bush's stand on various issues.

2) Republicans HAVE TO care about black people, because if they dont, they'll never get elected again.

- This is the point that made me respond to you, as it is 100% not true. In 2000, Al Gore got 90% of the African American vote in the US, and he LOST. Bush doesn't need one black vote so long as all the white rednecks keep on voting for him. I'm not even going to talk about what happened in Florida in 2004, because that's controversial. The fact is that Bush doesn't and never did need African Americans to vote for him, and they didn't.

I also like the idea of a political thread category, but everyone that posts in it has to not just have taken a history course, but also has to know something about current events so people don't write stupid shit like this.

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kanye is dope.
drug deealin just to get by, stack ya money till it gets sky high!

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"The democrats have been way too pussy the past several years and they let the republicans walk all over them, I think they need to make bold statements like this and stand up for themselves."

I don't get it. Numerous democrats and liberals alike have been making bold statements like this since day one. Look in newspapers, magazines, tv and I am sure you will have no problem finding some source that bashes Bush.

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howard dean i think it is comes to mind... "the republican party consists mainly of white christians"

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the repulbican party is rich, racist, white cristians. whats the difference. all government is fucked up

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im not white racist and far from rich and im republican. so is it not a perfect world b/c we have republicans and everyones not democratic? whats with the stereotypes?

politics are the new form of descrimination. since people and point out being a faggot or being black without being sued, so they moved on to politics. and thats the thing i hate about politics, opposition. everyone is angered and become violent about discussions even in the smallest degree.

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the white man brought cocaine to america...george jung...but anyway...i personally feel that kanye has almost no legitamacy behind what he said. yes it might be a good point from a lot of peoples perspective. yes it is true that the government took a long time to actually get in there. but back to the point whoever said that whatever kanye says is bullshit is right...this time he just happened to stumble across a phrase and some examples that might have some truth behind it. for example when he points out the fact of how people are portrayed in the news. he says that you see a photo of a black person walking down the flooded street with food in his hands and its labelled looiting, next photo you see a white couple walking down the flooded street with food in their arms and its labelled finding food? does that make sense or is it just simply coincedence. usually i dont like to get involved with political shit becuase its mostly useless (some with voting...go read thoreau) but i am a big one on the legitimacy behind the person that says shit...and in this case kanye has none. although what he said has some good basic points behind it. it sucks that he said it and not another person.

by the way go listen to his dropout album, one song he preaches about jesus walking on water and shit, 2 songs later he tells the "biches" to smoke the pipe and pass it on to their man then go shake their "asses" on the floor...awesome rightous guy huh ?

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