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T.L.
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I find it ironic that the second after the tsunami hit India, countries from all over the world (including the U.S.) rushed to aid them over there. AND claimed that we were not aiding enough. Now, after hurricane Katrina demolished alot of southern states here we haven't even received a fuckin band-aid in the mail.

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Aug 30 2005 8:46PM
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j.bird
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agree 100%. People love to criticize the U.S. about anything possible, but then do the same shit they are falsey accussing of. Granted our hurricane isn't as big or deadly, it is still a BIG FUCKING DEAL

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Aug 30 2005 8:58PM
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TheClap.
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um well the us has this thing called disaster insurance and most of new orleans was covered, not saying its not cool that noones helping but we can and are the only country that can afford it


Aug 30 2005 8:59PM
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Deezl
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Someone always makes excuses for why we have to help ourselves and everyone else out too.

Fuck disaster insurance, do you really think that disaster insurance is going to take care of everything? Our economy doesn't have disaster insurance, what about that?

Aug 30 2005 9:26PM
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TheClap.
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^no i really think it sucks that noone can help us out, and its really bad for those who have lost homes or loved ones. but when people brag about being the best country and richest country in the world and fuck the french and we dont need any help and then something happens and we complain that people dont care, it seems a bit hippocritical.

Aug 30 2005 10:09PM
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TheClap.
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and what countries do you want help from? France-all we do is make fun of em
GB-own terrorist problems
china-commies
Korea- almost at war
Rest Of World- Has no damn money.

Aug 30 2005 10:10PM
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cjgncjgn
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if this happened anywhere else the world would be their to help...

oh they want the US army to save their asses but when the US needs help they are nowhere to be seen

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Aug 30 2005 10:27PM
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chickonsticks
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its just becuase everyone sees the U.S as some huge superpower and it is...and so i guess no one thinks they need help- but it seems for once they acutally may and no ones reaching out

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Aug 30 2005 10:30PM
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Sashac
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true that. although, i'm not quite sure myself that the us needs help.

Aug 30 2005 10:35PM
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chickonsticks
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ya but like theyve put that Marshall law into effect and everythign...theres no liek clean water or electricity or plumming and things just keep getting worse...thats a serious emergency: even a donation to the red cross or something i guess would help....- the U.S is fucking scared cuz they dunno what to do cuz its never happened before- theres bodies floating in the water

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Aug 30 2005 10:40PM
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Deezl
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Perhaps if France offered help it would improve relations.

GB- How does having a terrorism problem prevent in participating in foreign aid.

China- How does system of gov't prevent them from offering aid? They can trade with us just fine.

Blah blah blah, its not that we necessarily need the help but "its the thought that counts". Maybe if some of these countries even offered their condolences much less their help I would feel differently.

By the way you left out a lot of countries that have the ability to lend aid. Germany, Saudi Arabia, Australia, Canada, to name a couple.

Aug 30 2005 10:41PM
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TheClap.
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^i understand you completely but where is the thought from those still living rich in our own country. thats what really counts. the way weve pissed off the world lately (not bashing GWB but we have) we cant expect people to want to lend a helping hand, i dont understand why people are so gung ho to send money out when we have all the problems we need within our country, all they really want is to look good. its the people inside our great country that need to band together and get our shit right.

Aug 30 2005 10:57PM
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TheClap.
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and most countries dont have armies that could really help us, they would most likely get in the way we do have the best armed forces in the world and we dont need help in that area.

Aug 30 2005 10:59PM
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I feel bad about what happened in the south, and i dont want to sound like a total d-bag, but these people were alittle better off than the people in india, also, the tsunami hit like a ton of bricks with no warning, where as the hurricane, was brodcasted on tv and people were told to leave. I feel that these 2 are uncomparable, but both big disasters



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Aug 30 2005 11:03PM
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MARIAH
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i'm not saying that they have but are you people positive that people haven't offered to help? i mean technically none of us are high up in the international political arena. The point is though that we really don't need help, yes it would be nice to hear the offer, however, most countries that could help us more than likely recognize our ability to work throught the situation ourselves. I know for a fact that there are thousands of commisioned officers who are being called on duty to go to new orleans and provide medical aid ( my mother being one of them) and quite frankly there is really no need for foreign doctors to come in.

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Aug 30 2005 11:04PM
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pierceme
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I know it sounds bad and i dont wish for it, but if there was another world war or something i think it'd help things out alot(relations wise). Im sick of always hearing how this country hates this country and what not. They only say that cuz theres no real problems going on in the world to focus on so they get bored and try to point out things as problems, when they're really no big deal. The way i see it countries like, the U.S., canada, germany, france, uk, spain, etc are all just like brothers. We all bicker all the time and occasionally one of us will hit another brother then that one cries but none of the other brothers care, but just like bros in real life, when shit goes down, we'd all have eachothers back(ex. WWII). Its all really stupid if u think about.





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Aug 30 2005 11:09PM
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TheClap.
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^no real problems buddy, no disrespect but there are so many problems in the world the genocide in sudan the quagmire in iraq (opinion), the aids crisis, the israel/palestine conflict, global warming, pollution. another world war being good is the most ignorant thing i have ever heard all those people dying just so nobody dislikes each other any more just so that they hate each other another 60 years down the road, i realize sometimes war is necessary but never should it be a first option. ESPECIALLY when the world has so many other real problems.

Aug 30 2005 11:17PM
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pierceme
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i understand a war wouldnt be good, i said that in my post. And as far as no real problems i was just talking about between the countries i said i was talking about. I meant how we bicker about the U.S. being arrogant and the french smelling bad, shit like that. Like, people actually act like theres a real issue between the u.s. and France. There isnt, i was just over there this summer and theres no real hate between us but people like to pretend there is.





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Aug 30 2005 11:32PM
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Kevo
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Yeah I totally agree with the original post.




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Aug 30 2005 11:44PM
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MitchPee
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ok well canada definitely should send some of their national guard down to help and saudi can easily donate money they are very wealthy isreal could also help japan would easily be able to help germany could help norway finland sweden could all help a little by maybe sending relief products theres a never ending list
but in today's world we are left to fend for ourselves

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Aug 31 2005 12:22AM
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Deezl
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^The thing that irritates me is that we are left to fend for ourselves, and everyone finds excuses to hate us and talk shit to and about us but as soon as something bad happens.....everyone's hand is out looking for the charity from us.

Trust me I understand the politics behind it all, and I don't feel like arguing anything. I just want to voice my frustration over it.

Aug 31 2005 1:18AM
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squeakywaffle
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The reason we are more responsible for providing aid is that we have way more money than we know what to do with. For instance:

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/mil_exp_dol_fig&int=20

If we are going to play at "world police," we have a responsibility to give aid to countries in need, just like we apparently have a responsibility to invade a country halfway around the world that poses no threat to us.

Speaking of which, nobody's managed to give me a single reason why invading Iraq was a good move for us. I'll make it easier for you guys- imagine that Saddam actually had a modest stockpile of WMDs. Imagine he had a few warheads loaded with a biological or chemical agent, and we have complete proof of this. Now convince me why [i]we[/i] needed to go in there.

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Aug 31 2005 3:01AM
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^ and that was my 911th post. COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT.

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Aug 31 2005 3:04AM
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Ghost
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and I couldn't agree more. Well said.

Aug 31 2005 3:21AM
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sorry about hurican katrina. I got a little bored heh....

Aug 31 2005 3:23AM
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TheClap.
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^allright assjockey thats not even funny

Aug 31 2005 1:31PM
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T.L.
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The only reason we are a super power is because we have the bombs. simple as that. no one wants to fuck with us cuz we have technology and lots of big bombs. other than that we are fucked. our economy blows and we are in an assload of debt because of this whole liberation in iraq bullshit. we should have leveled iraq when nobody would have thought twice about it, when everyone acually thought there were WMD's over there

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Aug 31 2005 2:07PM
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T.L.
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we dont need armies right now. We need medical aid, freshwater and places for people to go.

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Aug 31 2005 2:10PM
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assassin167
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you should give without the intention to recieve, thats why we ARE a good country and help people without expecting to get something in return. And people do help us remember how much aid we got after 9/11

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Aug 31 2005 2:10PM
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i dont really see what they could help with...the us has it all, it would just make things more complicated.

and btw, its the canadian reserves, not the national guard, and trust me, as a member of the reserves i would have no problem going down to help out (i live in montreal) but i truly dont believe we would be able to do much to actually help.

As someone else stated in this thread, i dont think u can compare katrina to the tsunami, there extremly different in many many aspects

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Aug 31 2005 2:16PM
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T.L.
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very very true but with all the critizism we get for being arrogant and shit we still help people out. and then countries called us CHEAP for not giving enough money to the tsunami releif. its still not right

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Aug 31 2005 2:19PM
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well over 1/3 of the world doesnt like the u.s.

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Aug 31 2005 2:23PM
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just think how much the other countries would put it in the us' face that they got help from other countries. i bet they actually would too.

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Aug 31 2005 2:38PM
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Aug 31 2005 2:43PM
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*claps slowly*

Bravo. Here we go again with Iraq.

If you are implying that the United States should grant aid and assistance to other nations, I would agree with you. As the world becomes “smaller� with the communication revolutions and the spread of a global economy, interests outside the US become closer and more tangible. This country can’t afford not to get involved outside its borders...whether its aiding, financial, or aggressive. The United States has the largest investment of international interests in the world, they (we) have every right to try and maintain those interests.

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Aug 31 2005 3:03PM
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Quinny
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Let me clarify that:

“...we have a right...� not “...we have every right...�

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Aug 31 2005 3:10PM
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i completely agree with, and growing up in france with their double standards vis à vis of the US drives the point home even more.

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Aug 31 2005 3:17PM
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boardz11
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i just love how every country loves to yell at the us for not helping and then when the us does they get nothing for it like now i dont see one god damn country to help us not even on of our allies this is BS!!!! screw every other counrty that thinks we dont need help from them or dont feel like helping us. even though we help every time these countries scew up themselves

Aug 31 2005 6:09PM
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LittleDevil720
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i agree, specially countries like china who are fucking taking up a shitload of gas......and who are capable enough of helping us out a little bit during a disaster/crisis like in new orleans

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Aug 31 2005 6:55PM
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Aug 31 2005 6:56PM
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If your big brother gets a cut... you expect him to get his own bandaid... but if your little brother gets cut... you better help out or it will look bad

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Aug 31 2005 7:51PM
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not sure if anyone said this yet....there have been about a dozen or so countries that have agreed to send some sort of aid to help out

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Aug 31 2005 8:50PM
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R-Bertsch
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i agree a lot with what you guys are saying but you ahv eto realize this hurricane doesnt even compare to the tsunamis. The tsunamis were unpredicable and devasted a MUCH larger area. This hurricane was predicted and people knew it was coming and got the fuck out.

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Aug 31 2005 8:54PM
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TheClap.
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i think you guys miss the point, we dont NEED help. yes it would be aprreciated but it is not necessary. and by the way not only our economy will be affected by this because we drive the world economy. and to the person that said china uses a lot of gas they dont use nearly as much as us they use public transportation and ride bikes. and say GB acted all high and mighty like they were the best shit since the god damn toaster oven, everyone here would be like fuck you. were not helping. and i understand that its not all our fault that other countries dont like us but a lot of it is so stop being a bunch of pretentious bastards and taking the high road in avoiding the fact that we are being greedy in expecting help when lots of other countries have som damn big problems to deal with themselves..

Aug 31 2005 8:58PM
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u know watching tv today made me disgusted with our country, we cant fight our own at home battles cuz dubya has better plans on the middle east, hah look at that, iraq cant even make a constitution on time, dubya just flew over the disaster and now he wants to donate 200 genorators and thats it, he also wants to encourage the american people to chip in and help, wtf wheres the federal government, oh let me tell u, there at their nice homes enjoying their vacation and playing politics, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh wtf get rid of our goverment and lets start a revolution, this is it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1




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Aug 31 2005 9:11PM
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^i like the way you think

Aug 31 2005 9:13PM
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Deezl
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I heard some countries have offered to help in what ways they can. I am happy now. We didn't need the help but the offer is what was important.

Aug 31 2005 9:35PM
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