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How much waterproofing do i need

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LittleJibber16
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i ski on the east coast in NH, where we have like a 3 month ski season, and i ski probably about 20-30 days a year maybe more im just guessing, so how much do you think would be enough

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Aug 17 2005 8:58AM
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eheath
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u can never be to waterproof


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Aug 17 2005 10:29AM
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xnick11
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dont get under 10000....buton has alot of good waterproofing this year

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Aug 17 2005 10:30AM
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.[sanhedrin].
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the problem with my ak burton jacket is that although it has like 2,000,000 mm of waterproofing, it is not very warm. It's really just an expensive poncho -- a really good looking expensive poncho. Make sure that the jacket is waterproof and warm.




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Aug 17 2005 11:42AM
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LittleJibber16
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^the jacket that i want is the opposite really, it's really warm but it has only 2,000 for waterproofing

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Aug 17 2005 12:04PM
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nothanks
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My siver pants are 5,000. Jacket is 10000. From Ny and ski Vt. 10000 is good stuff.



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Aug 17 2005 1:41PM
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J.D.
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8000 minimum, 10,000 is right.

Aug 17 2005 1:44PM
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trevorwoulddoit
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10'000 is what you should aim for, but any of the Siver shit should be alright if that's what you want.



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Aug 17 2005 2:54PM
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Shadows
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does anyone know the waterproofing on orage pants?

Aug 17 2005 3:09PM
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xnick11
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ummm alot of them are 10000...some are 20000 and some are under 10000 so idn u gotta check it out d-structure might say what it is...or u can go on jibij and find out

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Aug 17 2005 4:32PM
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LittleJibber16
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whats the waterproof rating on this years anorak

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Aug 17 2005 6:33PM
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Abscratch
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i have a northface i think its only like 3000 mm at most. when it rains my jacket gets alittle wet but i never feel it.

Aug 17 2005 7:31PM
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alev
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im guessing u must ski macintyre in concord nh cuz my ski season this year was end of november to end of april....thats not three months

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Aug 17 2005 7:56PM
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LittleJibber16
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i dont ski ther my season i like all of december to the beginning of april

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Aug 18 2005 10:59AM
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eastAR5
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dont worry about waterproofing that much... for me its: 1. how it looks 2. how warm it is (because you can always wear layers) 3. waterproofing

unless you plan to spend most of your time on the ground

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Aug 18 2005 11:02AM
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LittleJibber16
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^the jacket im lookin at
1.looks good 2.is really warm 3.has bad waterproofing

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Aug 18 2005 11:15AM
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alev
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get it

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Aug 18 2005 1:58PM
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RaginCajun
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id go good waterproofing over warmth. you can always wear something else under it.





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Aug 18 2005 4:07PM
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J.D.
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Wow. Just... wow. Yeah I NEVER get snow on me. Just... Quit skiing immediately.

Holy god some of you kids are posers. Seriously, that's like saying "I don't really ski I just like to look good on the mountain." Just quit skiing.

Aug 18 2005 5:46PM
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trevorwoulddoit
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You can't be warm if you're wet morons. They go hand in hand. I don't care how warm a jacket is, if it gets soaked, you're fucked and freezing. Which is super fun.




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Aug 18 2005 5:47PM
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huckasaurus
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Who cares what a rating your coat has, the DWR coating will wear off anything. Just get a coat you like and then get some of the Gore Tex spray on waterproofing, it's called Revive-ex. Treat your coat and pants with that Gore Tex shit and you'll never get wet...

Aug 18 2005 6:03PM
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Jib_This
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^do you know the difference between a DWR coating and a laminate like Gore Tex? Didn't think so. Go educate yourself before spreading bullshit like that.

http://www.gore-tex.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ContentGView?storeId=10001&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&productId=10255
^will tell you all about Gore Tex

http://www.gore-tex.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ContentGView?storeId=10001&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&productId=10257
^A little bit on DWR coatings

Next time, think before posting.





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Aug 18 2005 6:33PM
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huckasaurus
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Fuck you shit head, I do know the difference and Revivex works fine. DWR does wear off everything and Gore tex doesn 't do shit once the coating is worn off the coat.

Aug 19 2005 12:34PM
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dandoy
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20.000 at the very least.



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Aug 19 2005 12:46PM
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monkeysteez
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20,000 is what i got on my Orage Parasuit and i think my oakley stuff is 10,00-15,000. i live in colorado tho so its not as important here as overall warmth is. i would say go 15,000 or up. Orage kinda stepped down a tid bit this year, some of there stuff is around 10,000.

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Aug 19 2005 1:53PM
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Jib_This
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Ok...you don't. You have no idea. If you did, you wouldn't keep talking shit and telling people that revive-x is a great waterproofer. Revive-x is a product that re-applies a DWR (Durable Water Repellent) coating onto the face fabric of your jacket. This coating is what enables water to bead when it comes into contact with your jacket.

If you had bothered to read the goretex link I put up for you(you obviously didn't, considering what you wrote in your reply), you'd have realized that goretex does require a DWR to function at its best, but that it's still waterproof without the DWR coating. Gore tex will, however, "wet out" without the coating, meaning that the face fabric of the 2 or 3 layer laminate will absorb water. You'll still stay dry, your jacket won't leak, but breathability will be impaired, causing your sweat to render you a little wetter. This is why gore, as well as other companies that make comparable 2 and 3 layer laminate waterproof fabrics, recommend that you wash your jacket in cold water, followed by drying it in a dryer. This reactivates the DWR coating. Once in a while, there isn't enough DWR coating left on your jacket for this to work, so you need to re-coat it. This is where Revive-X comes in. You spray on/wash your jacket in Revive-x(depending on whether you get a wash-in or spray-on), and then dry it. Voila, your jacket has a new DWR coating.

DWR coatings do not render your jacket waterproof. They render it Water resistant. Big difference.

Now, about you calling me a "shit head". If you ever dare call me a shit head again, I'm going to fly to whereever the fuck you live, find you, kick the shit out of you, and then rip your tongue out and shove it down your throat, causing you to suffocate and die. Got it? Good. Bitch.





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Aug 19 2005 1:59PM
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dandoy
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that was a joke



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Aug 19 2005 2:01PM
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LittleJibber16
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^good cus i definately don't have enough money to buy something with 20,000

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Aug 19 2005 2:22PM
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Jib_This
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Now that I'm done ripping on huckimafaganddontknowmyshit, I can answer your question.

Your waterproofing needs will vary depending on where you ride. My general rule of thumb is that the further east you go, the less important waterproofing is, but the more important insulation becomes. So if you're out east in freezing temps but little precipitation other than snow, you can get away with something like an insulated 5000mm waterproof jacket. Skiing the wet west coast, where you can get hail, rain, wet snow, dry snow, and sunshine in the span of 10 minutes? Consider something super waterproof and much less insulated. Then factor in what you like to wear, your layering, and style, and you should find something you like.

So, if your budget is relatively low, but you live out east and don't need too much waterproofing, you'll be fine. If you're out west, just shop around, you'll find something good.





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Aug 19 2005 2:53PM
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Calrin
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when it rains

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There's a 65 ft booter. get your coat
Aug 19 2005 3:23PM
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trevorwoulddoit
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owned




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Aug 19 2005 4:24PM
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huckasaurus
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Lame...get a life...

Aug 19 2005 5:04PM
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Jib_This
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Oh, I see, so as soon as someone shows NS that you're full of shit, it becomes "lame" and I need to "get a life"?

Ok......the only thing that's lame here is the information you give out to people on this board.





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Aug 19 2005 6:02PM
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Pklink04
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i dont know what my obermeyer coat is, but my pants are 10000



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Aug 19 2005 8:36PM
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1-pippin
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yeah if your stuff isnt very waterproof it sucks.

Aug 19 2005 9:55PM
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LittleJibber16
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ok thanks jibthis that helped a lot

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Aug 20 2005 7:20PM
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Jib_This
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anything else you need to know or aren't clear about?





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Aug 20 2005 8:56PM
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your a fag... lay off

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Aug 20 2005 10:11PM
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LittleJibber16
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well now im lookin into a jacket that's 5000/5000 for waterproof/breathability and pants that are 10000/5000

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