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Attention Murray and Rest of MSP Staff

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industry-insider
Posts: 56 - Karma: 13
I know all of you well. I also know that you check this site everyday religiously at your home office while "Hit List" is being made. Lately on here it has come to my attention that Steve is pulling some stupid shit, or people are blowing things way way out of porportion. You as a team need to figure something out fast, before 66 thousand freeskiers on this site, plus many more are exposed to 'bad practices' of yours everyday. Whether that is sitting down with Steve and figuring out what is wrong, or writing some formal apologies/press releases, it needs to be done. I know that if my business partner was single handedly hurting my company's reputation and image I would certainly do something about it. (Murray- are you at all angered!?) Yet we have heard nothing from any of you guys. Now, i know as well as you do that NS.com does not represent the entire ski community, but i feel tht this many young people do have a part in your future, and the time is now to take action and straighten things out. This is a formal invitation for you, as MSP, a true 'leader of the industry' to get things figured out fast, before your entire audience starts to hear of your stunts. And please, dont think that i dont know what i am talking about, i have several messages everyday from known 'industry insiders' that let me know im hitting the subject just right. So, Riley, Murray, Scott, Steve, and Steve, (etc..) get something done, and maybe this hating can stop. Thank you for your time.

Jul 25 2005 8:56PM
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fake01
Posts: 78 - Karma: 10
^you really want me to kill myself? why? because sketchlinefilms hates me ahahahahha

Jul 26 2005 1:01AM
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theoz
Posts: 2379 - Karma: 128
FUCK the MSP empire the Ultamatum empire is coming to take over !!!

ulta-matum 'You know the world has gone crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black, the Swiss hold the America's cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, and Germany doesn't want to go to war.'
Jul 26 2005 1:02AM
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cravenmoorehed
Posts: 454 - Karma: 29
Ha ha 3/4 of the freeskiing population..Give me a break, 1/4 maybe and highly doubtful. I dont know why everyone is heated on MSP, who gives a shit.. Ill watch anything that involves skiing.

Jul 26 2005 1:03AM
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ski@jaypeak2
Posts: 2802 - Karma: 429
Ice is scary is right...quit jumping on every bandwagon that drives by. How many of you people signed the "ill never buy ninthwards" page last year and are now raving about them 9 months later. This will blow over and you willl all talk about how good hitlist is...damn 14 yr olds with no jobs and nothing better to do in the summer

You can't hug with nuclear arms
Jul 26 2005 1:05AM
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KeegLove
Posts: 10166 - Karma: 55
well put man

-keegan mcginnis, newschoolers.com

Jul 26 2005 1:05AM
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J.D.
Posts: 21362 - Karma: 5,142
I think what Ice and the other "Damn youngsters jumping on bandwagons they don't understand, MSP was around when you were in diapers" posters aren't getting is that there is a large and growing population of informed adults who are also submitting to a boycott of MSP products owing not to rumours and bandwagon effects but solely to the fact that the company has come to represent exactly what we don't want skiing to be... I would like MSP out of our industry because whatever they may have done to propel its growth, they're hampering it now with an utterly futile and ridiculous attempt to maintain some semblance of monopoly. My challenge to MSP is not to apologize, because it's honestly a bit too late and I doubt it would be sincere anyway, but rather this: do something new. Make a GOOD movie next season (hit list is a lost cause) with whatever riders you have left; Berman does more with less high price talent. Put out something original instead of Ski movie 14, do something different and interesting. Then at least you can say you're doing something in favour of the progression of this sport, to offset all the things you've done in opposition to it in recent years. I still won't buy it, no... but it'll be a start. And hey, maybe you can sell more copies without the heavy handed corporate-style manipulation of... er, everyone.

Jul 26 2005 3:00AM
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Deezl
Posts: 2112 - Karma: 8
sketchline talking shit to MSP and then MSP bothering to talk shit back!

THAT WAS THE FUNNIEST THING TO EVER HAPPEN ON NS

....back to your regularly scheduled progamming of haterism.

Jul 26 2005 3:05AM
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Rogge
Posts: 5773 - Karma: 3,930
this is funny.



take a shower and shine your shoes
you got no time to lose
you are young men and ya must be livin'
Jul 26 2005 8:24AM
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ESB
Posts: 9274 - Karma: 10,648
Newschoolers... who have you hated on today?


'now i have tendanites in my achelles tendan in my other ancle' - skibrdingbitch
Jul 26 2005 9:53AM
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Detective
Posts: 2545 - Karma: 59
Also, he said he has never made a single post on newschoolers. Not only does that just prove the fact that none of these aliases is him...but more importantly the fact that he just thinks this site is a bunch of litle kids who don't matter. I'd be willing to bet if he knew the names of some of the people posting under these various aliases he'd be a little more concerned...but then again maybe not.

_________________________________________________________ If I can't do it homey, it can't be done. I'ma let the champagne bottle pop ima take it to the top fo sho ima make it hot. Trouble maker whaaaat!!!
Jul 26 2005 12:07PM
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-AR_Seven-
Posts: 553 - Karma: 10
^That isn't the case. He has posted here on several occasions anonymously.

It had to be said.
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Jul 26 2005 12:30PM
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Grammar_Nazi
Posts: 796 - Karma: 20
go make a bike movie

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if i had to choose between sex and skiing, i would probably ski, does that make me gay?
Jul 26 2005 12:35PM
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skogenjake
Posts: 6685 - Karma: 511
i really hope we find out he's nantucket.



and that lilhorsey is gangier




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Jul 26 2005 12:48PM
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chip123
Posts: 930 - Karma: 8
Ski@jaypeak makes a good point. most people talking shit on these threads have no idea what they are talking about. I for one grew up on MSP and it has heavily influenced my perspective on different aspects of the sport and certain atheletes. It is there responsibility though to produce the most progressive segments of the year. therefore, if someone killed it this year they deserve a part, and if someone sucked or got hurt, then well, too bad. if you come back and have a great season next year than you deserve another part. but don't put people in movies just because they were in it last year, thats the worst thing you can do.

DHHC
Jul 26 2005 12:57PM
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Lilhorsey
Posts: 579 - Karma: 19
I think everyone missed the point here.

STEVE WINTER CALLED NS YESTERDAY AND THREATENED TO SUE THEM BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE TALKING SHIT ABOUT HIM ON THIS MESSAGE BOARD.


What the fuck!? who fucking does that?! Who fucking threatens to sue a couple teenagers in Canada running an internet message board. This is exactly the reason why people hate this guy so much.

Jul 26 2005 1:01PM
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skogenjake
Posts: 6685 - Karma: 511
but thats what was said....but is it confirmed true?




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Jul 26 2005 1:04PM
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Lilhorsey
Posts: 579 - Karma: 19
Of course its true. Winter is sum.

Jul 26 2005 1:07PM
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Lilhorsey
Posts: 579 - Karma: 19
That should have read, Winter is SCUM.

Jul 26 2005 1:07PM
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Melvs
Posts: 15174 - Karma: 480
Can someone wiht some legal background explain how a website with a message board could be sucsessfully sued because some members of the site were talking about some actions a certain company has made is bad?

-Pat
www.wbpfilms.com
EST.
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Jul 26 2005 1:44PM
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monkeysteez
Posts: 2655 - Karma: 99
freedom of speech, they could not get anything, i doubt

little_cucu: I got a tripod
monkeysteez: Me too, its in my pants.

:::PINK PANTHER:::
Jul 26 2005 1:45PM
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funkdoc
Posts: 1331 - Karma: 474
hahaha, word

CCF What?
Jul 26 2005 1:51PM
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Deezl
Posts: 2112 - Karma: 8
Melvs, as long as the moderators and admins keep things to themselves the site is fine. If any officiant of the site participates in spreading remarks that can be proved slanderous the site may be in trouble.

I have prepaid legal services so I placed a call out of curiousity.

Jul 26 2005 1:52PM
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cko
Posts: 1869 - Karma: 32
Just to clear this up, yes Steve Winter did call the NS office yesterday. No he did not threaten to sue us. I won't speak for Steve but he assured me that he has never, and will never post on this site. His concern was solely regarding the number of impersonators claiming to be him in the forums and the potential damage it could cause.

Whether you like MSP or not, and I'm not here to comment on that at all, you guys are free to express your opinions. But pretending to be someone you're not and seemingly fanning the flames of this shit storm isn't acceptable. We're in the process of finding out who is responsible for the impersonations and removing their usernames. Beyond that, this is an open message board and everyone is free to voice their opinions equally.



it's all very exciting.
Jul 26 2005 2:27PM
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Badfish2
Posts: 3453 - Karma: 21
so we're free to basically say what we want??

I want an interview.. with SOMEBODY.. publish it in Powder or SkiPress for all i care. They've been too silent for too long and all i've heard from them is a bunch of random anonymous posts.
Quit being cowards...
Silence from them on this site, in particular, is basically saying that we don't matter.. seriously though, it's been brewing up for far too long. If you don't want a sale from me or a lot of other people here.. fine, if you want a total lack of respect on anything that you touch, fine again... you've gotten what you deserve.

Jul 26 2005 2:28PM
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Badfish2
Posts: 3453 - Karma: 21
watching Global Storming for me now is like watching an old michael jackson video.. it was great then, but after learning about all the kiddie-touching, I'll never look at it the same again.

Jul 26 2005 2:30PM
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klimp
Posts: 933 - Karma: 18
ur free to say what u want as long as it isnt slander, but i wouldnt worry about it

Jul 26 2005 2:39PM
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mickd
Posts: 143 - Karma: 10
did you mantioned that winter fag,
got on there,and play the smart boy...
be carefull,he's really bad ass!!!!
KJIJIJHIJHIJIJIAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!
die
men suck penises (m.s.p)
i ain't 13 by the way winter,& we will fuck your biznass up biach::::

Jul 26 2005 2:41PM
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Ice-Is-Scary
Posts: 0 - Karma: 87
You really need to learn how to spell before ever posting anything again

We pay our debt sometimes.
Jul 26 2005 2:49PM
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mickd
Posts: 143 - Karma: 10
wow carefull ice is fuckin' scary...
by the way,
how do you spell ice is scary??
w.h.o.m.o. is that it?!?!?!
fuck out a here, with you mini uzzi on the side...
get a fuckin' face 90 bitch...
that's assault gun lil' nigga!!!
now get back to your wealthy ass i got everything i want & i'm spoiled life::::: bitch!!!

Jul 26 2005 2:54PM
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therealjerk
Posts: 2806 - Karma: 26
and on that note, quit bitching at a magazine for writing a shitty review and making me compromise my journalistic ethic.



"Who came here to kill a coke dealer tonight?" -Slug
Jul 26 2005 3:23PM
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shiest-d
Posts: 40 - Karma: 10
get @ me then...
i used to hustle coke,come & try to kill me then!!!

Jul 26 2005 3:25PM
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johnnypsunami
Posts: 5024 - Karma: 221
yeah i dont know who you are referring to, but im 20. and even if i was 13, there is a shitload of 13 year olds, and in the end they will decide which movies they will buy anyways.

'wow....ATLANTASKI should be dragged behind a truck at 90mp/h over rusty razorblades, stabbed multiple times with ice picks, raped up the bum-bum by rabid gorillas and then shot....'-big_white_hucker
Jul 26 2005 3:47PM
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johnnypsunami
Posts: 5024 - Karma: 221
best post in the history of NS right there.

'wow....ATLANTASKI should be dragged behind a truck at 90mp/h over rusty razorblades, stabbed multiple times with ice picks, raped up the bum-bum by rabid gorillas and then shot....'-big_white_hucker
Jul 26 2005 3:54PM
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skogenjake
Posts: 6685 - Karma: 511
i didnt understand it.




back to the original
Jul 26 2005 4:00PM
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philskis
Posts: 83 - Karma: 10
Its a good thing we dont know about all the corruption in the world, or even all the shady deals that go down in the ski industry, NS forum would over load!

Jul 26 2005 4:15PM
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Lilhorsey
Posts: 579 - Karma: 19
Not to many people understand Mickeal.

don't worry about it.

Jul 26 2005 4:15PM
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dandoy
Posts: 5522 - Karma: 13
bitch




"horsey what the fuck ya want lil' poney
get at me fag, any type of meat i'll eat it..."
- Mick D
Jul 26 2005 4:17PM
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Ice-Is-Scary
Posts: 0 - Karma: 87
I don't know what you just said, but please I beg of you never to type anything again, you are really bad at it

We pay our debt sometimes.
Jul 26 2005 4:20PM
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dandoy
Posts: 5522 - Karma: 13
You spelled someones name wrong.

COCKFAG




"horsey what the fuck ya want lil' poney
get at me fag, any type of meat i'll eat it..."
- Mick D
Jul 26 2005 4:24PM
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STAUSS
Posts: 8232 - Karma: 3,311
this is a good thread if its legit, as much as their movies havnt been to good in the past couple season i would hate to see the industry start to fall apart now

What?

P m P 2oo5

Jul 26 2005 4:35PM
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AppSkier
Posts: 4797 - Karma: 86
that isnt really steve winter...
and i dont even know why everyone hates MSP. my own personal reason is that their movies cost 30 bucks



'suffering from addiction to drugs, suffereing from addiction to drugs, suffering from addiction to drugs, suffering from addiction to drugs, alchohol, alchohol, alchohol' -eyehategod
Jul 26 2005 4:50PM
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shiest-d
Posts: 40 - Karma: 10
you all garbage exept hommie, pdandoy...
and for the weird post,bout ice is scary...
i was just callin' you out ice is scary...
you spoiled mothafuckers

Jul 26 2005 5:42PM
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Ice-Is-Scary
Posts: 0 - Karma: 87
calling me out? Its the internet and in reality you're a 12 year old shit talker who needs his internet privilaged taken away by mommy and daddy you spoiled mutha fucka word nigga son trick bitch son

We pay our debt sometimes.
Jul 26 2005 5:59PM
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Nine_Milla_Killa
Posts: 6783 - Karma: 23
I don't like MSP as much as anyone, but for us to spread rhumours about some stuff... Reedy talking about Sueing NS, there's no proof.
Sketchline is just the dumbest person I've ever come into contact with, he hates MSP movies, but hasn't seen anything recent. True they suck, but you can't just jump on the bandwagon just because its the cool thing to do these days. Watch the movies and use you own brain to make a decision.
I wouldnt take anything seriously I hear on this site excpet a very few threads.

Jul 26 2005 6:27PM
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-AR_Seven-
Posts: 553 - Karma: 10
Really? I thought this had a shot:

Badfish2*
525 Posts
Ridiculous

Jul 26 2005
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watching Global Storming for me now is like watching an old michael jackson video.. it was great then, but after learning about all the kiddie-touching, I'll never look at it the same again.

That's fucking brilliance right there. Going right to the Sig.

It had to be said.
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Jul 26 2005 8:06PM
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N.L.
Posts: 2420 - Karma: 2,744
this was all real funny, but i have to say msp hasnt had a really progressive movie ever. there good but not mind blowing.
and i cant believe this is blowing up like this, cuz no one ever believed/realized that freeskier bought the rights to freeze from transworld and then shut it down. and yeah i know there was a press release, but freeskier knew that they would never sell another magazine again if people knew that was the case.

furthermore, newschoolers needs to make a magazine/video for the people. like something sick that involves the whole ski industry. YOU GOT SPONSORS, do it....go, now, do it....before this shit get shut down.

Jul 26 2005 10:03PM
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trevorwoulddoit
Posts: 6153 - Karma: 199
Dear Steve,

Did you ever fahtom it would all get this far? It appears you underestimated some people.
Looks like what goes around comes around.

With Love As Always








My heroes don't appear on no stamps.

Our greatest glory consists not in never falling. But in rising every time we fall.

The Lab
Jul 26 2005 10:52PM
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french_fry
Posts: 4698 - Karma: 53
I hope for the MSP employees that Hitlist turns out to be fairly good to regain some confidence, because at this point I do not know how they are possibly going to stay afloat, i'd estimate their number of sales to go down about 10,000 dvd's, because not all of this site participates or consults all of the anti msp forums, but a fair share for sure. And the trailer did not make hitlist seem like a good movie... O well, i dont feel very concerned about this whole issue anyways, if shit happens too bad, it was deserved and not deserved, i dont care...





Gravity sucks

'Weighing in at only 125 lbs, I could easily bench double my weight as a senior in H.S.; maxing out at an outstanding 245 lbs. I still had the build of a small person.' - d-loc


"I only drink on 2 occasions. When I'm thirsty, and when I'm not."
Jul 26 2005 11:23PM
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hans_aschim
Posts: 1188 - Karma: 11
the golden girls are more progressive than MSP and they have ethics



"Black guys love me" - Lindsay Lohan
Jul 26 2005 11:28PM
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Doghouse
Posts: 1473 - Karma: 21
i dunno ice i dont think that its even worth fighting against anyone anymore cause its just like theres always gonna be someone out there whos gonna hate on something. reasons or not.

kinda like liberals vs conservatives, you're not gonna change anyones mind on this- minds are already made up.

but ill stick by my guns and say that newschoolers isnt gonna bring down msp, thats for sure. kinda grandyos thinking on the behalf of jd and those guys but its no biggie.




'Has you ever had an abortion? Surely you should try something before you say it is bad. Because I was very anti-Burger King, but then I went there and I had the flame grilled, ain't it, and you know it was like amazing.'-Ali G



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