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A Little Help: Line Elizibeth Vs. Armada ARV

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west
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For my grauation present my Dad is getting me a new setup, and I'm having a little trouble deciding what I should do. I'll be in the SLC area, so I need a powder ski that's versitile enough for the park, and can handle some groomers for when I come home to PA.
I'm pretty sure I have it narrowed down to either the Line Elizibeth or the Armada ARV. Both are great powder skis, but I was concerned with park performance. Pollard claims that the Elizibeth rocks the park and groomers, but with a waist of 110mm I have to wonder if it really does, or if thats just him because he's used to riding a 130mm waist ski. As for the ARVs in the park I've heard mixed reviews. I know with the exception of a few no one has ridden the Elizibeths yet, but any educated advice on the subject would be great, or any other setups that may be what I'm looking for . As for bindings, regaurdless of the ski I was going to go with the Look P14. Thanks.


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Jun 1 2005 8:44AM
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ARSpickert
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i rode the elizabeths through the park and on groomers and i loved them. i didnt feel like the wide waist was a problem at all.

Jun 1 2005 9:07AM
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guddgulf17
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i had the exact same problem. i think i am going with the arv, mostly because it has been around longer, is longer(length), and its graphics are amazing. if you want pics, check the armada site, they are in the sneak peek

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Jun 1 2005 9:27AM
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jibvermont
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pollard claims the elizabeths rock in the park.. because they were made for the park. so they will pretty much dominate the arv in that aspect. a lot of people have missed that fact.. they assume wide waist = pow ski. now depending on the height weight factor you can ride the elizabeths in the pow.. but say if your like me and weigh 170ish 5'11" the elizabeths won't be anything like the arvs in pow. elizabeths are softer than arv. hopefully everything i said was accurate and if someone sees a mistake please correct me :)

Jun 1 2005 9:33AM
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Jeff_Lo
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the elizabeths are a park ski and are soft....but i suppose they would work since they were fat...but if i were you id go with the ARV




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Jun 1 2005 11:02AM
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Vicious
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how big are you dude?? that'll make the decision easy


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Jun 1 2005 11:04AM
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smuggs
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when you are 4 feet under in utah........ umm it really doesnt matter how stiff the skis are.

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Jun 1 2005 11:15AM
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Lineskier-101
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ARV's are more of a powder ski then the elizabeth, the elizabeth is really soft and was made for the park. If your looking for a good powder ski that's awesome in the park, look for some arv's or msp's.

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Jun 1 2005 11:26AM
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west
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I'm 5'7 and 140lbs.



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Jun 7 2005 10:19PM
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johanblaze
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get the 175 arvs.

Jun 7 2005 10:23PM
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TheStamos
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Im getting liza's for pow only. i know there a park ski but i loved them in pow and i dont want to ruin a 250 doller sexy ski like that in the park. I have pistol's and tanner's for ruining.

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Jun 7 2005 10:35PM
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J.D.
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Just owing to the fact that you're looking for a ski primarily for powder with a side dish of park, the ARV seems like the pretty clear choice. And they do well enough in the park, don't worry about that... Vancouver legend The Dave skiied them all this season in park and pow, and was a big fan. You can message him and ask for opinion if you want. See if you can wait to pick up next year's though, because they're fresh.

Jun 8 2005 12:02AM
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trevorwoulddoit
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I can guarantee you that the Elizabeth will preform superbly in the park. Don't worry about that. You're really looking at a win-win situation. Like Ice-Is-Scary said, it really depends on your size and the length of ski you're looking for. If you feel the Elizabeth is too short and you want a larger stick, go with the ARV. Otherwise it's really a toss up. Personally I would suggest going with the larger ski just on principle, even taking it to 185 is within reason. Although, if you're deciding between the 175 ARV and the Elizabeth at 172 like I think you are, and you're comfortable with the size, take your pick.



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Jun 8 2005 12:18AM
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joshbryant
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The Elizabeth is my favorite park ski of all time. In fact, it's my favorite ski for everything. Period.


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Jun 8 2005 1:20AM
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strode
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i'm trying to decide between elizabeths, 185 arv's, or jp/juliens for my next pair of boards. i guess it all depends on where i decide to ski in the future. if i buy the elizabeth's it'll be a sick snow year and i'll never be in the park, and if i buy the jp's it'll never snow. the elizabeth and reactor is the setup i've been waiting for since before twintips were even made, so it's gonna be hard to pass them up.

who knows though, maybe my msp's will last two MORE seasons, and i won't have to worry about it til 07-08.



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Jun 8 2005 1:33AM
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johanblaze
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^ get the jp vs juliens! pm vicious! he has a pair that you could get for cheap!

Jun 8 2005 1:35AM
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guddgulf17
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I am sticking with arvs for next year


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Jun 8 2005 9:21AM
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Twintipskier-101
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Arv's would seem to be better for you. Especailly if you are 5 9 or taller.

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