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Replacement for pistols

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quattro179
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I have 179 pistols that are on there last legs. I was looking at the Vicious, Elizabeth, Prophet 100, maiden aks, or maybe even gotamas. I want something similar to pistols but more big mountain, cause I just got 175 arvs. If you have ridden any of these skis please let me know how they compare to each other.

May 10 2005 8:18PM
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J.D.
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Elizabeths are probably the wrong direction to go from what you're saying, awesome as they may be. You could get a 185 ARV, but you already have 175s, so I'm guessing that's out. Vicious, Made'ns and Gotamas seem like good plans, yeah. They're a step further towards big mountain (more progressively in the order I listed them), but still come in lengths ~180. Add in a 182 moship ti perhaps, and if you're willing to wait, DEFINITELY consider the 2006 prophet 100s.

May 10 2005 8:26PM
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doitbig
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or pick the pair up that's on ebay.

May 10 2005 8:35PM
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J.D.
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Or do that, yes. Glad we have ebay trollers around to fill us in on these deals. Little while ago there was a buy it now on Moship Tis for 250US on there, so the deals are there lately.

May 10 2005 8:37PM
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doitbig
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they're fairly cheap too

May 10 2005 8:42PM
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J.D.
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Yeah, but 6 days left, that's why. Same with 130s. It might be Brody Leven selling them actually, he had both of those skis for sale a little while ago.

Cool base graphic on the 100s, the only ones I've seen were inverted. I like the green better, I think.

May 10 2005 8:47PM
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shawnm1260
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might i also suggest 4frnt vct's in a 182

May 10 2005 8:49PM
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doitbig
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they cycled through a week already with no bids at that same price...

May 10 2005 8:51PM
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J.D.
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Haven't heard a review yet... actually, that's kind of odd; seems like everyone's skiied the 06 lines, and a few people have even demoed next year's armadas, but no 4frnt reviews. Not that I'd be the guy to ask, but are you demoing them at camps and such this summer? I was interested to hear some opinions on the VCT.

May 10 2005 8:53PM
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doitbig
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sorry for the post jack, but jd i wanted your opion on ski size/model. I have the choice of thallpros or the ar5 next year. I was deciding between the 170 or 176. I'm 5'7 135. Also own the 175 arv for my nonpark riding.

May 10 2005 8:56PM
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crooks
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there was some skogens on ebay for 200 new

May 10 2005 8:57PM
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shawnm1260
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i have not rode the vct's in powder yet, but they are really fun on the soft groomed. Thats the only time i have rode them.

i dont know why there is a lack of reviews on the new 4frnt stuff. I have gone to several demo's and had great feedback from everyone that has tried them.
i to have tried some of the new line stuff and armada stuff.

demos will be in full force at camp of champs. all skis, all sizes, and select demos will be avalible at mt.hood summer ski camp, and borderline camp in Alaska

May 10 2005 9:06PM
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J.D.
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I have yet to talk to anyone who owns Thalls who's been disappointed with them despite the occasional shit talk thread on here about the rounded edges. If you ski pipe a fair bit I'd say Ar5s, if not, flip a coin, it's a win-win situation. I'm on Ar5s now and they're great, park or groomed (they're at center, so not as good in soft stuff, but not as bad as I'd have thought either). The difference between a 170 and a 176 isn't all that huge, honestly, and if you're a good skier at a lightweight 5'7 a 176 shouldn't be a problem. But you probably have some idea of the length you want from judging by your ARVs.

You could also take a look at the invaders if you're looking to save a few bucks... unless you're brand loyal to AR as I've become. Seems like after you've been on a pair of Armadas you don't want to ski anything else as much anymore.

May 10 2005 9:08PM
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J.D.
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Sounds good... if anyone reading this is going to COC, try them up there and post a review. Even if the conditions aren't optimal for that kind of ski, some idea of what they're like would be appreciated.

May 10 2005 9:12PM
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doitbig
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thanks jd

May 10 2005 9:15PM
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J.D.
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No worries. Always happy to convince someone to buy Armadas.

May 10 2005 10:07PM
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shawnm1260
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i could post up a review of the vct's but i think it would be better coming from an unbiased person.

my thoughts on the vct's however

very solid ride... ohh so stable at high speeds, i was carving switch (real carving), in variable conditions at a solid 25mph "i would guess"
and they felt perfect.

much more pop than i expected from such a large ski. 182 length "104mm underfoot"

they made long fluid turns very well and were always ready for the next (they never really felt sluggish) Short turns were harder to make but got easier as i spent more time on them, just like on all skis over 100 at the waist, with the exception of the elizibeth.

over all, given the conditions that i used them in, i was more than happy, they were fun to jump with, i didnt hit rails but i know they would slay them, and they were fun to mob at really high speeds with, i also could ollie to 180 over "slow signs" at quite slow speeds, so the pop is pretty impressive. i could spin flatland 3 on them to. so the weight isnt that bad.. in the 182 length i would say that these skis feel quite lighter than a 179 seth pistol. (thats just a reference to estimate the weight).

these would be a good everyday ski for anybody that spends 50% off the trail, and 50% on, that not only demands a high performance backcountry ski, but a ski that can perform in the park as well.

hope this has helped a little. and dont be afraid to try out the skis this summer.
and post your reviews

May 10 2005 10:25PM
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skibum193
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^shawn. have u ridden the maidens (179)? how well do they spin compared to the pistols?


i rock the pow like none other
May 10 2005 11:28PM
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Lineskier-101
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shawn makes me jealous.

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May 11 2005 12:02AM
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shawnm1260
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i have rode the 179 maidens, for like 2 runs, they are harder to spin than the pistols i guess. but the vcts are easier to spin than both of those

May 11 2005 12:18AM
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johanblaze
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hmm... another pair of pistols you asshole.

May 11 2005 12:41AM
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quattro179
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^ That is a possibility, but I wanted to get all info about all of this new shit that has been comin out.

May 11 2005 12:57AM
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quattro179
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Plus I was thinkin of goin fatter

May 11 2005 12:57AM
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johanblaze
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if you can afford it i would get the seth vicious. they kcik ass on hardpack because of the new sidecut, and have all the amazing pow and park abilities the pistol has. the most versatile ski out there.

May 11 2005 12:58AM
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quattro179
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What if I have arv 175 for groom. What would be the ultimate pow sticks.


May 11 2005 1:06AM
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quattro179
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and cheapest

May 11 2005 1:09AM
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shawnm1260
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not vct's
but you get what you pay for.. remember that

May 11 2005 1:11AM
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johanblaze
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personally i have the jp vs. juliens for powder and hardpack. my pistols are my park skis.

May 11 2005 1:12AM
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The_Herring
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Head Monster 103 maybe?
You easily forget the european skis


Skiing in the winter, longboarding in the summer


May 11 2005 4:42AM
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woolfy
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JP's

May 11 2005 5:33AM
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quattro179
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I am only 5'9 and 140. If that is any help.

May 11 2005 10:36AM
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Vicious
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179 made'ns are a piece of cake to spin...not much different than pistols, just a tad heavier.


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May 11 2005 10:42AM
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Vicious
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get 179 made'ns...one of the sickest pow skis i've been on. jp's are right up there with the best too.


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May 11 2005 10:43AM
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rodadeaco
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Get the Vicious, it's similar to the pistol, but it's wider. I think it would be more fun than the Made'n AK because it is more versatile, (14 mm variable sidecut on Vicious vs. 10 mm sidecut on AK) it will be good on groomers as well as powder.

May 11 2005 11:10AM
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quattro179
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I found gotama 176 for 429$. not bad


May 11 2005 6:31PM
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