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freestyleskier25
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How do you like the GL2. would anyone recommend it for skiing videos. How does it work in low light and how is it for the snow and the beach. Is it worth the money? Is there something cheaper or around the same price that is better.

Apr 9 2005 8:45PM
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freestyleskier25
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how is it compared to the gl1?

Apr 9 2005 8:55PM
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guddgulf17
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my friend has one, and we use it for bmx footage, which i would assume makes it great for skiing

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Apr 9 2005 9:41PM
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freestyleskier25
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The gl2 seems real nice but its expensive so i wanted to no if the gl1 is better to get for its price

Apr 11 2005 9:13AM
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Okay, I am also looking at a GL2 for next years ski season. Here's what I've found out based on my research...

The Gl1 and the Gl2 are essentially the same camera. It will be slightly harder to get your hands on a GL1 due to the fact that they are discontinued by Canon (replaced by the GL2). However, if your on a tight budget, and can find a GL1 for a few hundred less (they will probably be VERY close in prices anyways..) then go for it.

Now, I've heard that the GL2 does a really good job on low light situations. Apparently, there is a comparable Sony model (Vx2000???) that preforms much better in low light than GL2. But, the GL2 still does a really good job.

It has a built in optical image stabalizer which should definently come in hand for follow cams and that sort of thing. The lens is amazing which is understandble because Canon Optics have always been incredible. And, the image quality is pretty incredible as well.

All in all, it's an amazing camera for action sports in general. You'll see tons of people in skiiing, snowboarding, and skating movies filming with the GL2(1).


(This is all based on what i've read, and what i've heard from people who use the camera. I personally don't own one...yet ;)


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Apr 11 2005 12:57PM
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Yeah man those 3CCD cameras are definatly worth it. im buying the Sony VX2100. if you want to know if it's good for snow shooting and dark light, then just look for features like "white balence" and see which cam has a broader range of exposure.

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Apr 11 2005 6:21PM
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Ghost82nd
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mine should be arriving in about 2 days. cant wait!

Apr 11 2005 6:23PM
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skodeo7
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I highly recommend the GL2, I've been using it for about a year and a half now and I couldn't be more happy with the camera. The only thing I could possibly ask for would be the ability to shoot 24 fps however you can get some fucking sexy ass shots non the less. If you wanna see some ski footy with a GL2 just PM me and I can guide ya in the right direction.

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Apr 11 2005 6:41PM
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freestyleskier25
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ya do you have any footy i can see of something when using tha gl2

Apr 11 2005 8:18PM
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nychka
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^^im almost positive the GL2 does have a frame mode

Apr 11 2005 9:03PM
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skodeo7
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frame mode is not 24 fps

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Apr 11 2005 9:26PM
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Frame mode is the fps feature itself. What he's saying is that the fps seetings don't go to 42 fps for some reason...though I doubt you need it that slow. The best thing to do is to shoot on 29.5 fps (professional level for standard motion)and use a program for all of your speed editing.

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Apr 11 2005 9:36PM
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Ghost82nd
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when i went to a camera store to check it out. the sales guy showed me a movie he made in mammoth during the summer...all i have to say is wow! and i held both the sony and the canon and the canon has a much better balance while in hand which will help when trying to keep the camera still...but you wont need much help with the stabilizer on there

Apr 11 2005 11:04PM
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Phrosty
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tanaka, you don't know what you're talking about. the vx21 is the best camera for low light under like 4g's.




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Apr 11 2005 11:06PM
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skodeo7
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gl2 has better quality audio though

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Apr 11 2005 11:08PM
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Phrosty
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all camera mics are worthless.




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Apr 11 2005 11:19PM
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jensen
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i just got a gl2 this season and it is super sick. if you get one make sure you got money for some extras like lenses, a tripod, and all that kinda stuff. if you wanna see footy from one look at the last three videos i have uploaded in my profile (they are all named steamboat something).





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Apr 12 2005 10:53AM
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freestyleskier25
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that comes out sick. does anyone else having and footy i can see

Apr 12 2005 1:56PM
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skodeo7
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Sample 1:
https://www.newschoolers.com/PHP/Videos/LoadVideo.php4?vid_id=9027

Sample 2:
http://www.sasfilms.com/video/1428-ld-strattonedit3-11-04.mov

Sample 3:
https://www.newschoolers.com/PHP/Videos/LoadVideo.php4?vid_id=17877

Sample 4:
https://www.newschoolers.com/PHP/Videos/LoadVideo.php4?vid_id=18155

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Apr 12 2005 2:52PM
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freestyleskier25
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i couldnt access all of those does anyone else have any footage

Apr 12 2005 5:48PM
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skodeo7
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you just need an quicktime with .mp4 support

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Apr 12 2005 7:22PM
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I never said the GL2 was the best low-light camera. I just said it helps if there's a white balencer and a broad range of exposure. But as far as the cameras themselves go, yeah. The Sony VX2100 is better for that stuff, which is why that's the one I'm buying.

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Apr 12 2005 10:39PM
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Dude the mic quality doesn't matter if I get the Sony. I have an external shotgun/zoom mic that picks up awsome sound. perrrfecttt.

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Apr 12 2005 11:04PM
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skodeo7
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I was just saying because we are comparing cameras and people were asking for the pros and cons of both. Most times when you want audio you are generally using an external mic anyway but for arguments sake the GL2 has a better stock mic (im not saying there is a huuuge difference, just as there is really not a very large difference in picture quality between vx2000 and gl2).

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Apr 13 2005 12:22AM
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^hmm very true my fellow padawon. Both camera are very sick. I just feel like getting the Sony because every local skate shop uses them and tells me thet're great. I found one for $1,009! :)

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Apr 13 2005 12:39AM
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Phrosty
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be careful about buying one so cheap, pretty much everyone selling cameras and shit are all sneaky fucks. even the big name stores.




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Apr 13 2005 12:58AM
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Yeagh but the reason it is so cheap is becuase they are selling it to you without a fucking battery, shich I have to buy of anoither site for $100...plus shipping is $45, but that's till cheaper than paying $2,999

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Apr 13 2005 1:23AM
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umm...did whoever started this thread actually buy the camera? oi.

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Apr 14 2005 12:55AM
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freestyleskier25
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no i havent bought either camera yet. i just wanted to know what people thought of the camera before i bought them. does anyone have any footage from either camera?

Apr 14 2005 10:54AM
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Skodeo7's footage was made using a GL2. Watch most professional skate movies cause they mostly use the Sony.

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Apr 14 2005 1:27PM
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oh and all the fallow cams amd alot of Gagnier's part in Red Tape was filmed with the Sony.

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Apr 14 2005 1:27PM
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eastAR5
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The vx2000 performes amazingly in low light conditions, better than the gl2 and it has warmer colors as well. vx1 uses 12 bit sound which most filmers prefer on rails and for skating in general. In terms of wideangle/fisheye lenses, the vx1 has the century mk1 death which is the widest .3x lens made. And you can get a century mk1 intermediate for the vx2000 which isnt as good as the original but its still better than any lenses compatable with the gl2.

bottom line: sony > cannon

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Apr 14 2005 3:34PM
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skodeo7
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what do you mean by 'warmer colors'? with a manual white balance you can achieve the same colors I belive, yes? you can just use warm cards or numerous others techniques.

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Apr 14 2005 7:50PM
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Adamskinick
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Gl-2 is a great. camera. i use it for school and it doesnt do it justice. its a great camera. my friend just bought one for 1.5 g's with lenses, found some super deal online. its legit also. good camera.

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Apr 14 2005 9:58PM
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by warmer, I think you must mean more saturatd color, which you can adjust anyway using a good editing program.

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Apr 15 2005 1:02AM
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Schoening
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where the hell are you guys getting the cash for a camera like this.

Apr 15 2005 1:25AM
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skodeo7
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sell rocks bitch

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Apr 15 2005 3:04AM
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hahaha no I've been working my ass off doing random stuff for money.

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Apr 15 2005 2:36PM
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eastAR5
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i dont know about snow but in city filming the gl2 is notorisouly known for having a colder tone. not a huge deal to most people but it depends

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Apr 15 2005 3:48PM
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skodeo7
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haha do you have any idea what your talking about? you can get any color tone you want with the use of warm/cool cards. white balance my friend. if you don't use the white balance than it will be "cool" as you say

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Apr 15 2005 4:24PM
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eastAR5
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no i actually do know what im talking about to an extent... And Im not talking about whitebalence. go to ANY real skatefilm website and youll see. I just know a lot of semi-pro filmers who hate the Gl2 so i learned that way. But I dont know anything about how it shoots in snow, so i cant compare it there.

And its still a sick cam but im talking about the details.

www.skateperception.com

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Apr 15 2005 4:30PM
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skodeo7
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this thread from one of their forums sums it up:

an excerpt over this same debate...
"It makes me feel like im in a preschool whenever i decide to look in one of these debates. All I can ever hear anyone say is "MINE IS BETTER!!!!!" Most of you have no idea what the things are that make a camera trully better than another cam. When compairing the gls and the vxs there literally is NO DIFFERANCE. They are all low quality 3ccd consumer cameras, that can get almost exact duplicate images under close to the same conditions. None of you even know what the hell you're talking about when you talk about the things that are better about your camera. "It gives a "truer" image," will get you laughed at by any profesional videographer out there. First they will ask you what the hell that is even supposed to mean, then they will tell you its pretty much the same camera as all the other consumer 3chips. Please stop acting like you know that your camera is sooooo much better than the alternative because you keep hearing it on here from some other kids that dont know what theyre talking about."

http://forums.skateperception.com/index.php?showtopic=21161

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Apr 15 2005 4:42PM
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eastAR5
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thats not quite true.. but we'll call it even for now if you want.

i'll just leave it with that the vx1 is still better for filming skateboarding mostly cause of lens options and much better audio. But the gl2 is better in low light and probably better in snow. But you can't say "they're all low quality 3ccd consumer cams" and therefore theyre all the same. They have different looks and i know this cause my dad is a film maker and theres tons of differnt mini dv cams lying around beside film. , from the Sony PD170 to xl1s

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Apr 15 2005 4:54PM
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eastAR5
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nothing to say? guess i win

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Apr 15 2005 5:05PM
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Apr 15 2005 5:06PM
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They're both sick cams. I guess it really just comes down to the prefrence of the smaller things on the camera (i.e screen size, veiwfinder size, camera size) but other than that, they're both the same. I'm just getting the Sony cause I like the way it feels over the GL2. It doesn't mean one is better than the other. They're both awsome.

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Apr 15 2005 5:31PM
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skodeo7
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haha yea man I really don't care im just giving another side to your argument...its really not about the camera its all how ya use it.

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Apr 15 2005 7:17PM
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^WeRd...everybody donate money to the "Give Landis Money So He Can Buy Himself The Most Kickass And Flippin Sweet Camera Ever" fund.

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Apr 15 2005 7:20PM
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Ghost82nd
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just got my gl2 today and il try it out tonight trying to get some skate footage in...ill upload em too

Apr 15 2005 10:37PM
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Please donate money. Anyone?

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Apr 15 2005 11:48PM
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Phrosty
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on the vx21 yhou can actually turn up the color intensity, which works very well, I shoot with mine cranked all the way up, because yea you can color correct in post but, the less you have to do in post the better. also doesn't the vx1 not have an lcd screen?




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