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DICKCANSKITOO
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what does salting jumps do, soften the landings and takeoffs???
Oct 20 2002 8:09PM
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skier_boy26
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if you know what salt does to ice and snow, you should be able to figure it out
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Oct 20 2002 8:13PM
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bibskis
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i know that salt lowers the temperature of ice and snow, but i dont know what salt does to jumps either... so nice logic




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Oct 20 2002 8:18PM
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Oct 20 2002 8:26PM
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bibskis
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yeah but what does it do




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Being Irish, I guess I should resent the Notre Dame nickname 'The Fighting Irish.' After all, how long do you think nicknames like 'The Bargaining Jews' or 'The Murdering Italians' would last? Only the Ironic Irish could be so naively honset. I get the feeling that Notre Dame came real close to naming itself 'The Fuckin Drunken, Thick-Skulled, Brawling, Short-Dicked Irish'
Oct 20 2002 8:28PM
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skodeo7
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alright here's the deal, you use ice to freeze up your jumps or trannys in a pipe. The salt causes the snow to melt so the snow becomes really wet (because it melts), then with the cold temperature (and a few minutes time) the snow will refreeze except into more of an icy substance that is wicked fast. Thats pretty much it I guess.
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Oct 20 2002 8:51PM
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bibskis
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wouldnt that make the landings harder??




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Being Irish, I guess I should resent the Notre Dame nickname 'The Fighting Irish.' After all, how long do you think nicknames like 'The Bargaining Jews' or 'The Murdering Italians' would last? Only the Ironic Irish could be so naively honset. I get the feeling that Notre Dame came real close to naming itself 'The Fuckin Drunken, Thick-Skulled, Brawling, Short-Dicked Irish'
Oct 20 2002 8:52PM
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skodeo7
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Uh...I've never seen it done to landings, usually you only do it on the tranny or a lip of a jump or runway.
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Oct 20 2002 9:00PM
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bibskis
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they were doing it to landings too




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Being Irish, I guess I should resent the Notre Dame nickname 'The Fighting Irish.' After all, how long do you think nicknames like 'The Bargaining Jews' or 'The Murdering Italians' would last? Only the Ironic Irish could be so naively honset. I get the feeling that Notre Dame came real close to naming itself 'The Fuckin Drunken, Thick-Skulled, Brawling, Short-Dicked Irish'
Oct 20 2002 9:03PM
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skier_boy26
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i they were doin it to the landings, dont copy... bad bad idea. notin like landing on bulletproof. its just so the ramp wont break and stuff like that

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Oct 20 2002 9:17PM
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skodeo7
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if they were doing it on the landings I think that they probably had no idea what the salt was doing because that would make the landings harder...maybe they were trying to get the landings softer but I dunno
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'Now I understand why you like skiing so much'
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Oct 20 2002 9:20PM
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threejay
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my science teacher was talking to us about this the other day. salt doesnt actually melt ice. it just prevents it from forming. if you usee too much salt it will screw up your transistion, you have to use just the right amount.


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Oct 20 2002 9:24PM
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aclsarescary
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It's pretty crazy. But i can tell that it makes it allot faster to ski on. Actually, i think it faster than during the winter.
Oct 20 2002 10:18PM
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yetirolfe
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solar salt
Oct 20 2002 10:19PM
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SkiBumProductions
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You salt landings when they are too soft and keep getting destroyed, i.e. at a comp. The salt helps them from forming huge ruts.


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Oct 20 2002 10:23PM
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Cork9
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Yeah, basically the salt (but they actually use AMMONIA, because salt is way to Harmful to the environment and their not allowed) lowers the melting point of the snow (it's dependent on how much you use) but generally to -15 degrees Celcius. They do this the night(s) before the comp. and it hardens up the snow for the next day.
Oct 21 2002 12:11AM
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skier_boy26
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in that case you would 'salt' the landing, but if you build a jump out back or somethin, you gotta be a damn retard to be putting salt on the landing

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Oct 21 2002 1:07AM
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Balmdogg
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that would be so funny if someone salted up a nice powder landing.
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Oct 21 2002 6:27AM
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RossiScratch-411
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anybody have an idea of just how much salt to use and if u can use it if the temp is above the freezing point I.E when New Jersey gets snow then the next day it is 40 degrees but i have made a backyard kicker and need some speed and stability on my jump, can i use salt??








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Oct 21 2002 7:27AM
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RossiScratch-411
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and also, will salting like kill my grass and in turn my mom kills me???








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Oct 21 2002 12:03PM
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Natedawg
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I've been a park designer for 5 years. Here's the deal:

Salt lowers the freezing point of water to -8 celcius. Salt should only be used when the temperature is above freezing point and the snow is wet/slushy. When salt is added to slush, it lowers its freezing point, causing it to melt very rapidly. As it changes state, it steals energy from the snow beneath. the snow beneath turns to ice as a result, hence you have a faster, tougher surface.

Fertilizer has the same effect, but is more environmentally friendly.

Use lots! It's hard to really use too much. The important thing is to let the snow set for at least 15 minutes after you throw salt on it. If you ski on it right after you salt, you'll break the bonding of the particles and the snow will turn to sugar which is not good.

If you're doing this on your front lawn, you might want to use fertilizer... Hey, your parents might even pay for it then!

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Oct 21 2002 1:28PM
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GLSurf
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The only reason to salt the landings is to keep the landings from forming big ruts (thank you skibum). The ruts can take off your ski sometimes when you land, which is bad. Basically, only salt the landings when its warm out and the landing is being destroyed.
Oct 21 2002 3:45PM
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Cork9
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Using it in your backyard= Bad idea. Fertilizer or Salt. Since you don't have a base all it is going to do is melt your snow, and continue to melt it cause the salt doesn't go away. Just like when they salt the roads in the winter; it gets rid of all the snow, it doesn't make them more icy. Since I'm guessing your backyard snowfall isn't HUGE, it would be best to water it, and let it sit. It has the same effect (lowers melting point) but its much safer, and won't mess up your lawn (like salt).
Oct 21 2002 3:53PM
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