Dam I just tried out the liberty stealth that I got early this week. I really didn't think this whole progressive stance would make much of a difference. But it made a huge difference. I've been riding on PE w/ +3 and riding on forward stance gave me so much more balance I was fuken stoked. But I really didnt like riding them outside of the park. Maybe, I'm not used to it yet, but I hate it to be perfectly honest... Anyhow, overall it was great.