yo, i'm inept and and clueless, could an experienced spinner give me some advice on d-spins, its so elusive to me, i'm not some wannabee 9 year old trying to be cool, its a manuever i really want to figure out, i know exactly what they look like and what they consist of, i can't grasp its feeling i guess, when push comes to shove i can't come out of them, i dont think i start them right, i allways either throw a back full or just end up spinning 3 and landing on my back and side, what am i missing, could someone explain how they learned to throw them? or could someone describe what the body is doing in detail so i can see if i'm forgeting something, that'd be helpful too