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Hobojibber
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I think where going to war because Bush is on every chanel giving a speech about Sadam Hussien...so is anybody listening to it and are we going to war??
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Oct 7 2002 8:02PM
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skibum1080
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I don't know.
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Oct 7 2002 8:06PM
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witchbaby666
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Come on people, it's not like you couldn't see it coming. Bush is going to finish his fathers war. And really, what would we talk about if nobody was being pointlessly killed?

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Oct 7 2002 8:08PM
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Hobojibber
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I don't think Bush is goind to war just to finsh that other Bush off....but I think Bush will engulf Iraq with a war for an economic boost because wars always boost the economy and our economy sucks right now.
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Oct 7 2002 8:09PM
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CTripper
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i really dont like our president.
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Oct 7 2002 8:09PM
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powder99
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he is just telling americans why he wants to attack iraq, stating his reasons and telling suddam to give up his weapons or the states will do it it for him

'The time for denying, deceiving and delaying has come to an end,' Bush said. 'Saddam Hussein must disarm himself -- or for the sake of peace, we will lead a coalition to disarm him.'


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Oct 7 2002 8:12PM
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Hobojibber
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Ok i see
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Oct 7 2002 8:14PM
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skibum1080
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ture dat powder.
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Oct 7 2002 8:17PM
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CTripper
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we have weapons too
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Oct 7 2002 8:17PM
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CTripper
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im moving to canada, at keast you guys dont support bush.
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Oct 7 2002 8:18PM
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Hobojibber
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I dont really care who our president is because Im not old enough to vote so its like you get what you get.
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Oct 7 2002 8:20PM
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powder99
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actually canada has said it would send soldiers if the UN and the US came to an agrement on how they would do it, Canada just doesn't want to go against the UN and put there full support to the US untill their is more proof Iraq is a threat. If iraq is proven to be a threat you can be pretty sure Canada will send troops
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Oct 7 2002 8:22PM
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sugarloafer1990
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we better not go to war. bush is looking for war and he's supporting death and destruction for no reason.

me and my brother protested in kennebunk, where i live, right in front of the bush house on sunday when the president and his dad were done their.


if we go to war our country SUCKS!










theres a natural mystic flowing through the air if you listen carefully now you will hear. its the first trumpet calling. might as well be the last. many more will have to suffer many more will have to die dont ask me why. things are not the way they used to be.
Oct 7 2002 8:25PM
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yeti
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ugh he wants to go to war because there is a crazy mother fucker over there who has proved many times that he does not give a shit about his people or family or the rest of the world, and has a mad hate on for the western world.

Oh yeah, and he has biological weapons too.

i say bomb the shit out of him.

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Oct 7 2002 8:35PM
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Aspen23NYC
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Bush might be a stupid ass but i think we need to go to war so that mother fucker over there finally gets what he deserves. he's got no respect for people or his country and he needs to bounce.
Oct 7 2002 9:24PM
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andyrightcoast
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I think that all you ignorant bastards who say that bush is just doing it for the economy, or to finish off what the other Bush started, should all get into a boat, go to Iraq, and talk to him yourselves... we'll see who leaves alive.


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Oct 7 2002 9:41PM
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Mayze29
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yeah, the only reason we are going to war is cause our economy fucking sucks right now and bush wants a destraction. plus with all the 9-11 stuff everyones all patriotic and crap and willing to fight for their country and blah blah blah...and it'll boost his ratings. selfish bastard.



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Oct 7 2002 9:53PM
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Aspen23NYC
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this shit's not about the economy, its about weapons. you all want iraq to have nuclear and chemical shit?




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Oct 8 2002 5:31PM
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SUpilot
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yea seriously...i bet if some of you lost loved ones on 9/11 you wouldnt be all peace willing touchly feely bastards. the ill-informed think we are playing with fire, but they have no understanding of whats going on. study up kids.
Oct 8 2002 6:29PM
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sugarloafer1990
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actully, a good amount of people who did lose loved ones in 9-11 want peace. its 50% or around there. i saw it on CNN.

we need PEACE!!!!!!! War sucks. everyone hates america cause we spend so much on military.

1/2 the world is illiterate and 1/2 is suffering from hunger.....we should be spending money on helping those people......not spending twice as much on mititary defense as any other country.>>>!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHH










theres a natural mystic flowing through the air if you listen carefully now you will hear. its the first trumpet calling. might as well be the last. many more will have to suffer many more will have to die dont ask me why. things are not the way they used to be.
Oct 8 2002 7:25PM
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skibum1080
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true dat aspen and SUpilot.

Sugarloafer--the president is in now way promoting death and destruction, in no way at all. If anyone is promoting death and destruction it is Saddam Hussein. He is a copmplete mad man that has no feelings for his 'country' or family.

This is all about weapons. This is in no way about Bush being selfish, nor is it about the economy. It is purely about a mad man in Iraq that has biological and nuclear weapons, and he will not hesitate to use them. The U.S. must step in and rid Suddam of his weapons.
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Oct 8 2002 7:33PM
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Diabhal
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Bush isn't doing for the economy, a war would create even more uncertainty in the markets and could also cause an oil crisis. I don't presume to guesse Bush's methods, he might be doing it cause he genuinely believes the states are in danger, or he's trying to find something to campaign on. But what i do know is that military analysts are predicting the new gulf war to be VERY bloody, estimates on casualties is 1,000 dead... on the u.s. side alone. not to mention mass civilian casualties. This war is going to be mainly urban battles, sadam's 80,000 strong elite fighting force and 35,000 strong security force have been training for entirely urban battles, which means the iraqi army will bunker down in cities, which the U.S. can't bomb with out risking widing the conflict. Not to mention the Iraqi's could conscript 300,000 soldiers. These would be young, untrained men, who have to choice but to fight. Also saddam will most likely try to escalate the conflict be sending scud missiles into Israel, in an attempt to force israel to attack and cause arab fundamentalist states to join in. The U.S. and britain constantly making a diplomatic solution immpossible. Now sadam might be an evil bastard, and even possibly a war criminal for the ethnic cleansing of the kurds, but their aren't to many other leaders out their that would be any better. Also Bush seems to exagerate the threats, a CIA report said that Sadam could have nuclear capabilities in 10 years. Not in one year like bush constantly says. We should keep on trying to find a diplomatic solution and not unleash a bloodshed.
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Oct 8 2002 7:54PM
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jibs
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Is it a good thing when your heart feels like it's being stabbed?

Mine sorta feels that way right now..

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Oct 8 2002 7:57PM
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lagwagon
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yeah i don't think many people like your president, he ain't mine, and i don't like war either so yeah, fuck man he sucks, government sucks! is one person really smarter than 6 billion?
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Oct 8 2002 8:26PM
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PhattTim
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Fuck some of you guys are retards! Bloody hell, Some of you have decent ideas to push across but the rest of you just shut your freakin' pie holes. For fucks sake, if you've got no idea what you're on about then click the 'return to message board' link.

If the only reason Bush was going to war (the SOLE reason, none other - like a lot of you said) was to boost the economy then he would be absolutley jumped on by the rest of the world. Sure, wars do boost an economy but you don't just say, oh, let's have a war, it doesn't work like that.

Yeti is right, Saddam is a bad mofo. His people hate him, his family hate him, the world pretty much hates him. The USA shoulda killed him back in 1990-1991 when they had the chance.

And is kinda strange that he's going against the majority of the population (who a lot of you said, do actually want peace). And also against the wishes of the UN. Saddam agreed to let weapons inspectors back in, problem solved, but no, Bush says it's not happening and that he's gonna kick his ass anyway. Right. Bush's little personal war, he's a cock. Time for a revolution.

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Oct 9 2002 3:07AM
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Ski_Instructor_Mike
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It Needs to be done.

it's really odd... most of the time the intellegent people or people that know alot about a situation advocate non-violence but here you've got all of the people that actually know the history of Iraq and Saddam saying that he should be attacked and the people that really don't know saying, 'Lets just make peace, I don't want anything like 9/11 to happen again' that's living out of fear and not intellegence. So really Timmy MAtt and others are completely right. He gasses his OWN PEOPLE! why wouldn't he do it to another country? he sets fire to 700 oil wells and causes millions of tonnes of oil to be sent into the atmosphere, do you think he cares if some neuclear waste is sent into that atmoshpere when he pushes a button on the weapons he's developing?
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Oct 9 2002 11:42AM
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Lord_Piot
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i have one question for you all

do you want sadam having access to nuclear, chemical or biological weopens?

if your answer is no then you have absolutely no right to comment on bush's policys concerning iraq.

if your answer is yes then you dont matter anymore because noone wants someone like bush having access to these things.
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Oct 9 2002 12:14PM
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gravteck
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How about all the homeless people join the army, they need jobs don't they, I always get into arguments w/ liberals (go read a sociology textbook ya republican) yea I have, put them to work in the military, the military has good benefits, helps you get very VERY affordable housing, and really, it's not that tough.
Oct 9 2002 2:14PM
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Ghost
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I'm sorry you guys but peace is not an option.
Even if we made compromises with sinical terrorists like saddam, it would only be temporary.

Bush is doing something about it, and my respect goes out to him.
Oct 9 2002 2:17PM
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SUpilot
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exactly...dragon is right on the dot.
Oct 9 2002 2:21PM
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jibs
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The way i look at it, if we do nothing, then eventually saddam will do something devastating to people somewhere. More likely israel over the USA, but innocent people nontheless. If we do something, and get rid of saddam, there'll be some pissed off muslim countries and one pissed off osama bin laden who is already (supposedly, assuming it was his voice on that tape)threatening 2 major attacks on the civilians and economy of america if the US doesn't back off of iraq.

So basically, there's not much choice....somethings gotta be done, and either way a lot of people are going to be hurt or killed. Catch 22 i guess.

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Oct 9 2002 5:02PM
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lagwagon
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get rid of religion.
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Oct 9 2002 5:04PM
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PhattTim
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1) You will never be able to

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2) How is that going to help in the slightest?

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Oct 9 2002 7:08PM
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Line1260
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people will always fall to the radical side of the political spectrum, it is human nature.

i feel that a total war on iraq is wrong. i also feel that his weapons of mass destruction and chem/bio weapons should be stopped. he should hang for gassing the kurds as well. the us is not taking much of a side on the Kurds issue, because he supported the genocide with money supplied by who? the usa


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Oct 9 2002 7:26PM
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Mayze29
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if we do go to war, and we lose, that will teach bush a lesson.



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Oct 9 2002 8:42PM
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Schwags
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Saddam obviously poses a threat to the US and our security, we wouldnt risk 1,000's of mens lives to boost the fucken economy. Wars happen for a reason, and this one is to protect our asses...
Oct 9 2002 8:58PM
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Diabhal
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Saddam may be an evil bastard, but who's going to replace him? A fundamentalist? We all now how well that worked. Remember Bush, Blair, and Serhak have all been called war criminals by a geneva convention council(you never heard of it because it was boycotted). No we don't want saddam to have nuclear weapons. But does anyone remember another famous historical pre-emptive strike? oh ya thats right, PEARL HARBOR! Many of you aren't think of the possible side effects of attacking Sadam. Civilian casualties(or colateral damage) is unavoidable. But civilian deaths will only create more hate and more terrorism. Also if saddam is attacked he will try to widen the scope of the war by fireing scud missiles(possibly with bio and chem weapons). If isreal sent in troops to Iraq, you'd have all muslim countries forced to withdraw support from the U.S. and possibly even pledge troops and support to Iraq. Saddam may be evil, but he's no idiot. He knows he can't win in a straight out war, he also knows that the other arab nation leaders hate him, but if he can goad isreal into attacking the other nations may have no choice but to join him(public dissent can dictate foreign policy, even in an undemocratic state). Sadam knows his only chance is to hide in cities(where civilian casualties are more likely to occur, and civilian casualties create more support for his cause in arab nations, and internationaly) and try to get as much support for him as possible. The only military option for the U.S. that minimizes civilian casualties is considered insane(that is do a massive parachute drop of special forces into baghdad with heavy air support and try to get them to take the city.) We have to do something with saddam, but military action IS NOT the answer, it only ends in more death.
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Oct 9 2002 9:14PM
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SUpilot
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i hate people that think they are smart when they really arent. especially when they try to talk about politics...
Oct 9 2002 11:22PM
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schlonginator
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I really hate people who cant spel corectley.

But Seriously: WAR SUCKS!!! Theres not much us aussies can do cause bush won't listen to us, its like 'follow us or be blown up'. Its up to the american newschool population to make the message of anti war heard - start riots, loot, burn yourselfs !!! Do what you have to do!!!





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