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Minority Report Loophole

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Harvey
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I meant to post this a while ago, but hopefully more people have seen it now so they'll know what I'm saying. If you haven't seen the movie yet, don't read this! It might give something away.

So I found this loophole (I think) in the logic of the movie. Maybe I missed something.. anyways, here it is:

The only reason he went to the apartment was because he saw it in the precogs. But the precogs wouldn't have seen it unless he knew about the apartment and wanted to go there. So the precogs would've had to have been programmed to see that so that HE could see it so that he could do it.

So there's no way he could've killed that guy. They wouldn't have foreseen it if he didn't know the guy, and he couldn't know the guy if they didnt' forsee it.

Matt
Sep 23 2002 1:04AM
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roswel
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interesting....keeping in mind this is just a movie. it's like any other time travel/precognition. it's like the grandfather paradox in time travel. if you went back and killed your grandfather then you wouldn't be born and couldn't go back, but if you didn't go back then he would be alive and you would be born.....and on and on we go....



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Sep 23 2002 1:08AM
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Harvey
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I agree, but it's sort of annoying that a pretty clever movie like that would have such a large paradox in it.

No one would make a movie where someone goes back in time and kills their grandfather. I bet someone has and I'm going to get burned on this one. haha..

As for the time paradox, someone has a theory that at every moment of time, everything is split into an infinite number of new dimensions, so if you went back and killed your grandfather, it would only affect the one dimension that you did it in, but you would keep living in all the other ones.

Sounds crazy, but it's no crazier than going back in time.

Matt
Sep 23 2002 1:23AM
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roswel
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you're right, i was going to mention that. i believe the theory is that whenever there is a choice, every choice is made. it certainly makes for a large scale web of dimensions. there is also a theory that what has happened, happened, and even if you went back in time and changed it, it wouldn't really change your present..know what i mean? here's sort of an analogy. think of a video game. once you've finished that game you can go back and do everything over again but differently. however it wouldn't change the fact that you finished the game......

i love this time travel stuff. i could talk about it all night.



'i hope nothing like that ever calls my name'

ya had to be there!
Sep 23 2002 1:32AM
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mammothpunks
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have any of you guys read Timeline? that would make a sick ass movie. you should read it if you havent


'I probably sound like a rambaling dork on the blunt commentary track. there use that or I'll fucking kill you fucking guy' -Jibtech

Sep 23 2002 12:52PM
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Gdawg3
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If you love time travel, and could talk about it forever, read a 'brief history of time'. I could only get about 3 chapters in it is so damn confusing. Maybe you would have the interest and patience to actually finish it.


We have an old saying down on the bayou....Blehhhhh!!!
Sep 24 2002 10:14PM
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