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Comercializing Twin boarding

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***Frost***
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As you all know, skateboarding was basically taken over and then comercialized/sold out, by the 'GREAT' tony hawk.. Now we stand at the threshhold of popluarization of OUR sport. Johnny Moseley, as we all know is a total sell out and is popularity oriented. If we allow him to take our sport and sell it to the world because of his greed for money and fame, we will become more like the skateboarders than I believe anyone could want to be. Popularized untill everyon ein the world thinks, they too, are skiers. Luckily the twin boot/board industries are still the 'un-popular' thing to do. In-line skating, twin tipping.. Borad sports still rule the extreme sports world. I just want everyone to think about where our sport would go if we started WANTING our sport to be THAT acknowledged...

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Sep 15 2002 1:47AM
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jibs
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ah, nonsensicle gibberish. I hope you are drunk.

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Sep 15 2002 1:55AM
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sim
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... in the right direction maybe?
Sep 15 2002 2:01AM
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Big_Willy
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Thats not moselys angle, where do you get your news from? Mosely got paid pretty well after his win at the olympics, and he admitted that he craved the attention, but he never intended to sell out our sport. Look at the boarder who won olympic pipe gold, hes getting paid damn well, hell merely competing in the olympics was called selling out 4yrs ago. What Im trying to say is thats part of winning in the olympics, you get money, lots of money. Mosely is just trying to get more ppl to ski, hes not trying to make incredible amounts of money at the price of our sport. After the olympics he chose to go off and do newschool shit, he does what he loves, he chose to do what he loves, what we all love. I can go on for several pages on this topic but Im tired and I should start studying, but mosely is definitely NOT selling out our sport.



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Sep 15 2002 3:04AM
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toe
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i really dont want skiing to end up like skateboarding. having every 10 year old in the world trying to do what we do just isnt my cup of cheese.
Sep 15 2002 9:28AM
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***Frost***
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Yeah toe, that's exactly what I'm talking about. And I know that if you OTHER guys ever saw Johnny Moseley you'd asl him if you could lick his toes and eat his crap....
Sep 15 2002 1:42PM
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1080enemy
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just by going by the title 'Comercializing Twin boarding', I would say that it has already happened. you see adds in the mags you read. therefore it has become comercialized. All of the movies and skiers are sponsered. It is commercialized, its just not popular to the masses.
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Sep 15 2002 1:55PM
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***Frost***
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I know what you mean 1080.. That's a good thing.. The problem with people like Moseley is. HE want's the whole world to believe that he is the inventor ((for lack of a better word)) of twin tip skiing, the lord of freestyle, and because he sets himself up and mr. awesome, and already having exposer to the whole world.. Our sport with a little help from him..Could be poularized to the masses.. Luckily I am only venting about this because I thought it would be a good topic for discussion.. Luckily 'board-sports' at least single board sports will always be the main stream and have 100 billion 10 year old posers running around the country poisoning their sport.. We aint gotta worry
Sep 15 2002 2:04PM
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Ds91260
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I agree with toe and frost. i hate when i see little kids in the park talkin big because theyre on the 'freestyle' team. ive known alotta ppl on the 'freestyle' team. u can get on it as long as u have the $. so then u see little kids go hit tables and slowly screw up the whole terrain park 'going huge'. if skiing becomes like skateboarding im gonna b an asshole to every kid who thinks he/she is the next moseley or hall or whatever.
Sep 15 2002 2:25PM
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*Neil
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whats so bad about kids skiing, evan if there in it for the wrong reasons.. they will figure it out, why dont we worry about are selfs and do what we love to do SKI...





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Sep 15 2002 2:37PM
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Prins
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WE NEED to sell out as a sport. We are running out of money to keep things going as they are. The athlets are doing alright but they are a small part of who needs that money. The ski companies (esp line, Being the only true Freestyle company), video companies (PBP, L1P, not MSP and TGR as there market is much greater). Everyone gets streched year after year to make ends meet.

I also am going to be stoked the day I see more little skiers picking up some twins and hitting the part then I see snowboarders. To all of you who want our sport to stay 'Hardcore' or whatever you want to call it. I'm sorry but it isn't going to be that way ever again (just look back to 2-3 years ago now).
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Sep 15 2002 3:09PM
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alpentalik
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i had a dream the other night that i went to a restaraunt. i went to the bathroom to take a piss and when i came back jonny moseley was sitting in my spot, he then proceeded to autograph my yellow freeskier magazine down vest, which could have been a life jacket actually.



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Sep 15 2002 3:26PM
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dez22
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yes i know, wtf is this about? skiing is actually cool now, fuck it strait to hell. im going skiboarding, thats still gay!
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Sep 15 2002 3:50PM
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gravteck
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When did Moseley ever say 'I invented newschool.' You can be a Moseley hater, but people just assume so much about him.

Anyway who the hell cares if the sport sells out. I've been skateboarding for a long time, and a bunch of little annoying kids at the park don't keep me from loving it or having a good time, it doesn't piss me off either. You've got issues if you're bothered what 10 year old kids do recreationally.
Sep 15 2002 4:02PM
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Big_Willy
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I dont really like mosely that much, very cocky and egotistical, but I have a lot of respect for him. I never heard him claim that he 'invented newschool,' but he sure as hell helped. Really, how many of you thought newschool was cool after mosely pulled a mute 3 in the olympics? Sure many people, myself included, have been doing 'newschool' stuff before '98, but as a whole the sport got popular because of mosely.



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Sep 15 2002 4:12PM
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Big_Willy
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...as per skiing turning into skateboarding, thats pretty cool because we will get more money/better products/more sponsorships/etc. I dont like to see a train of 30 little 'posers' but they wouldnt think of hitting the terrain I do, and if they do they will either get wrecked or learn something and become better. Look at snowboarding, how many of those kids cant even grab on a 10' table?



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Sep 15 2002 4:17PM
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Jibtech
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Yo, whoever started this thread is a fucking moron.

DO YOU KNOW JOHNNY MOSLEY?

HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW HE WANTS TO TAKE CREDIT FOR ALL THIS STUFF YOU SAY. WHO THE HELL ARE YOU?

PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS, WAKE UP, AND DIE RIGHT.
Sep 15 2002 4:17PM
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newschooler14
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does it matter if the sport becomes popular? Are you going to like it less just because more people are doing it? No matter how many people pick it up you will always be able to tell the difference between posers and people who are doing it cause they like it not cause its the cool thing to do.

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Sep 15 2002 4:25PM
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Capurnicus
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i don't get it
wait i didn't read it

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Sep 15 2002 4:26PM
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Jibtech
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ohh frosty- I figured out your retardedness from your 'Summer Alternative' Thread.

It all makes too much sence now.
Sep 15 2002 4:47PM
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CorkWormTurn
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what the hell is wrong with skateboarding now? i think it's awesome little kids want to learn to skateboard. it's a sport that takes a lot of practice, is difficult, and isn't about beating someone else. it's about trying to get better because you want to. i'd love to see just as many kids skateboarding, BMXing or whatever as playing little league.

If by sold out/commercialized you mean people give respect to skateboarders instead of thinking that all of them are loser highschool dropouts, then i say there's nothing wrong with that.
Sep 15 2002 4:53PM
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TBarnes
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hahahaha. i was about to say that same thing jibtech.
Sep 15 2002 6:10PM
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i_am_retarded
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dude honestly you are retarded... if tony hawk didn't 'sell out' which he didnt, then someone else would have. you say he sold out by taking sponsors, and EARNING money. he worked his ass off to become what he has become, and even if he's not the best skater in the world, he's probably the smartes.. it would be straight up stupid to not take a multimillionaire contract in order to have the sport less popular.it's the same with skiing... think about it, if you ever became a pro (as if that would happen) you would want as many people as possible skiing, no matter young or old, and you would want them buying your ski, and any other product with your name on it so you get money... clearly they want money... you kinda need it to live, so try thinking before you go off being a little biaaaa.

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Sep 15 2002 6:29PM
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Dkr
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Frost omeslice, do you like this sport...well if you want it around for a while. Unfortunately it needs to go mainstreem, thus money will be put into freeskiing. I always get annoyed when people say that someone has sold out yada yada yada, unfortunately you aren't them. I kno alot of people that feel this same way as I, about sports you just named. So unless its going to be you and and your cult posse of super core riders that 'Didnt' sell out having a good time by yourselvles with a sport with no money, then hey by all means do it. And especially if you want really anything todo with this industry in the future you better bet your bottom buck that alot of money needs to be put in to it so that money will be made. Yah something like that.
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Sep 15 2002 6:53PM
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dspin7x
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yea frost youre a total fucking moron you really have no idea what you are talking about. Listen to some people that actually know what they are talking about
Sep 15 2002 7:44PM
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JTAus
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I'm with Big Willy on this one.

I can't see a problem with an increase in the skiing population. From what I can gather from alot of the other responses being posted on this site, we should be skiing for ourselves. Who cares if 10,000 more 10 year olds take up 'new school' skiing. Those that like it will stick with it, and hopefully, as it grows more popular, there will be more events and greater prizemoney allocated for them. At worst it would provide a higher level of competition. How could this possibly be a bad thing. Those kids that took up newschool skiing because everyone else did, will grow tired of it and go back to playing Mad Trix on PS2 because they couldn't be bothered putting in the time to learn.

Let Mosely do what he wants without criticising him for 'selling out' . He put in the work to get where he is, now he should be able to reap the benifits.
Sep 15 2002 8:21PM
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MadTrixter
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it's gonna be great when it becomes 'comercialized', cause then when you tell people that you ski they won't be like 'faggot, why don't you snowboard', and shit like that. it's just gonna make people who actually ski, not say they do, look cooler
Sep 15 2002 8:51PM
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aggro_sk8
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the part about mosely was off target, but last year there was a commerdial for 'gelly's super smooth crayons' on TV, and in it they had animated bears riding crayons like snowboards. or wait a minute!, what about 'Nickleodeon's rocket power'. i think this is the kind of 'selling-out' and 'comerciallizing' frost wants skiing to stay away from.

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Sep 15 2002 9:46PM
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jibs
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well...i sure was hoping he was just drunk. I guess not. Levin said it so i won't.

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Sep 15 2002 10:28PM
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StriderMG
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i'm w/ jibtech on the stupid thread sby frosty department, just let the sport evolve, we're doing fine, gt off moselys back, i don't know him, so i won't trash him

-If people don't want 'Posers' in their sport they should quit skiing and take up knitting. I highly doubt that anyone 'Poses' as a knitter. -Jibtech
Sep 15 2002 11:31PM
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Nine_Milla_Killa
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I didnt bother reading what everyone else put, but it doenst matter if skiing sells out really. I eman it would be kinda cool if it didnt, but i know that soon it WILL. All that amtetrs is that the originals, us, or at least most of us, still keep the heart and spirit alive within oursleves and on our hills. WE are the ones the kids look up to, almost as much as the pros. Keep it real, and it will stay real.














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Sep 15 2002 11:37PM
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grommit
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madd trix - agree with you that it's OK if it gets commercialized, but not because it would be cool in the eyes of others specifically snowboarders and what not. I have never seen a border worth thier wieght or anybody else not give props to somebody who was clearly pushing it. The external stuff has nothing to do with how we choose to ride.
Sep 15 2002 11:40PM
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Mahre
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man, skiing selling out? right...and skating selling out? uh ok man. skating is probably the 1 most tecnical sport there is, period. who cares if little kids are out skating...shit, you have to start somewhere. more littles kids on skis is good. do you think that everyone will be like turpin? just start at an older age, and be good? probably not. we all have to start somewhere, and progress from there...ok, so you can have your opinion, but i would have to disagree with it. because in my opinion, it sucks

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Sep 16 2002 12:40AM
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dez22
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frost is officially the biggest dumbass on ns right now... sry alpintalk
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Sep 16 2002 8:41AM
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Cheech
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hahaha!
Sep 16 2002 11:25AM
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MadTrixter
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i didn't mean just in the eyes of snowboarders. i mean just people in general who think that skiing is all about racing ans shit like that. one freeskiing becomes commercialized, all of us will recieve more the respect that we deserve.
Sep 16 2002 12:49PM
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dspin7x
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yea i dont get why all you people would get so mad if alot of 10 year olds got into skiing. Thats cool for them the more people the better, i didnt start skiing really till i was 14 so what. and once again frost is an idiot
Sep 16 2002 1:10PM
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dspin7x
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and twin boarding what the hell is that?
Sep 16 2002 1:13PM
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Jibtech
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some gay french shit, thats what it says on the dynastar concepts or somthing... concept of twin-board
Sep 16 2002 2:25PM
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MadTrixter
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yeah frost is a fuckin moron, i can't wait till i see the majority of kids in tha park on skis instead of snowboards
Sep 16 2002 3:04PM
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MadTrixter
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the bottom line is that we all love skiing, fuck everybody else
Sep 16 2002 3:13PM
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gravteck
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Yea a note on tony hawk. There are plenty of other skaters out there who you probably think are more on the hardcore side than Hawk, but they're livin it up in money as well, Thomas, Koston, even getz owns a pimped out beamer, a lexus, and some other fancy car. Pros in skating are paid very well, but if we are going to pay football players exorbitant amounts of money, the skill it takes to become a pro skateboarder takes just as much effort, and hard work, and love if not more in some respects. I think they deserve the money... fuck people calling them sellouts.
Sep 16 2002 3:20PM
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Capt.Flannel
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Well i dont think Jonny Moseley is like that, but anyways, i dont give a fuck whether or not skiin turns into a fad or anythin, cause fuck, i do it cause i love it. I think everybody that skis should do so, because they love it, not cause its sumthin different. Those people are the ones that are ruinin the ski scene, not people like moseley, who is just tryin to open up this kick ass scene to others. -Sam
Sep 16 2002 4:08PM
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alpentalik
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Here, hold on a second...let me go kill myself and then I'll be right back.

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Sep 16 2002 4:19PM
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MadTrixter
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for some reason that picture is hilarious
Sep 16 2002 5:09PM
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Jibtech
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The fucking juice man.... That guy is agg.
Sep 16 2002 7:48PM
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MadTrixter
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i wish i had that much fruit sitting by my juicer.
Sep 16 2002 8:01PM
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dez22
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look at the way he holds that carrot... wow


'It's ok, I am on my way, let the sun no longer scorch you, and the sun no longer nurn your skin.. I am coming, I am coming.'... ***Frost***

'pro - peagna? What the fuck is that?' - my friend looking at my Propaganda DVD (he's not to bright)
Sep 16 2002 8:40PM
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MadTrixter
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seems pretty damn gay to me, but hey, at least he's got a shitload of fruit to eat
Sep 16 2002 8:43PM
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ColoradoFlats
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'for some reason that picture is hilarious'

i agree...
Sep 16 2002 9:57PM
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***Frost***
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yeah Jib Tech and and d-spin7x, I'm sorry I just have to excuse you guys,, You guys are just the type of idiots who figure, if you stay in the norm of pop culture, you will only look gay to people who have an imagination.. You guys probably dropped out of school in the third grade cause your daddies offered to give you a house and private jet in Switserland so him and his 16 year old girlfriend can just sit around and screw all day freakin long while you and your male friends lick eachothers nipples. So d-spiner you can think anything you want about me and you can think that just because you listened to Britany Spears when she was 'cool' and started skate boarding when tony hawk for PS1 came out, that you are cool.... Go ahead, you'll still be an idiot.. And just because you started skiing before me, ((or so you think)) WHAT THE HECK ABOU THAT MAKES YOU DOWN??????? Every message you send me says ask ^$^$^&$ or ask ^%$^%$^%$ or someone else on here if you are down, or you have been skiing forever and are all bad and stuff. Why cause you can't back up your own @$$??? Get a life and get off the crack dude it killS.....
Sep 16 2002 11:41PM
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