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Jibster720x
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So i was wondering (being from the least skiable part of Ontario), what are the proper dimensions for a perfect table. What r the angles of landing/takeoff. How long should the landing be in comparison to the length of the table/hit. what about a 1/4 pipe, or a good rail. Whats better for the skis, hard-plastic piping or metal piping. IF YOU DONT KNOW, TELL ME WHERE I MIGHT FIND THIS STUFF ON THE WEB.
Sep 7 2002 11:44AM
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heavymetalwinner
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for sksi plastic is better, but metal is more fun. Plastics for pussies. The perfect table to a nice drop table. Where the landing is like 10 feet lower than the take off. The flats of the table have to at least be 30 feet. And for a QP, you want the whole transition to be really smooth. But you only want like a foot of vert on the end. To much vert sucks.
Sep 7 2002 12:36PM
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Jibster720x
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why I ask is I know the owner of one of the local hills. He's lookin' for suggestions on what kind of jumps, and rails and shit to put in. One of the other local hills, on the other side of town has a pipe and a few tables. As well as a flat,metal, shotgun rail (which was the first rail I learned).

Me and freinds always find shit and rail in our back yard (like my neighbors boat launch, shool benches, and skateboard rails). The problem is my old skis got trashed from railing stuff. The edges popped out and shit. I got new skis in2001 but I dont want to ruin them.
Sep 7 2002 1:38PM
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quebecfreestyler
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make one table top like 20 feets so beginner can hit it without killing themselves.
make a medium one with a drop off
like top off tha take off three feet higher then tha flat opart which would be like 30 feet and make a 40 footer with tha take off like 6-10 feet higher then the flat

for tha quater pipe just make a goo tranni and maybe a feet of vert at the end

For tha rail, just make some small easy rail with two metal tubes and some small but technical shits like a 2 feet high curved rail and a small rainbow.
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Sep 7 2002 2:08PM
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craigcski
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go to mammoth, they have the perfect jumps there.

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Sep 7 2002 2:14PM
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Jibster720x
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I appreciate the input on jumps. I'm planing on making a homemade rail. At first I was thinking plastic, so that I didn't scratch and wear down my edges. Metal hurts your edges, but it doesn't really scratch your base. On the other hand, plastic wont wear down your edges, but it has more friction then the metal rails so it will prob wear down your base, which means you'd have to get your ski edges re-bevelled anyway. So what's the answer?
Sep 7 2002 2:21PM
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woodwardtahoe
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yo Jibster720x,

www.snowturbo.com has web links to the few reputable park/pipe/rail consultants in the industry. Also my Mammoth/June connection told me that some people down there have a rail building bussiness that makes everything from dinky little beginner jibs up to signature jibs designed by top Ski&Board pros. I checked there site but it isnt up yet. railbuilder.com just links back to project-snow from the snowturbo site. I'm certain your local mt can find the info they need from one of those websites.

Sep 7 2002 3:10PM
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TEK.MOB
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unless you like arials their is no measurement for the perfect table top, I comes down to skill of the park rangers constructing them









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Sep 7 2002 4:55PM
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Sean14456
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rails at our local mountain, mt creek are sick, done by kurt heine, http://www.heinetools.com/
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Sep 7 2002 5:22PM
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Whistlermann
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It's all about preference, some people like steeper takeoffs so they fly higher but only like 30-40 feet while others like more gradual takeoffs so they fly 50-60 feet, and then there are the people who hit the steep takeoffs on huge tables, for that you also need steep landings so you don't wreck yourself

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Sep 7 2002 5:58PM
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JATS101
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like the guy above said, its all preferance, just make sure you have a landing that is steep enough for the jump, dont want a jump that launches you up with a flat landing
Sep 8 2002 5:00PM
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SwitchMisty540
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Make sure you have a lot of variety. People like to be able to hit small table every once in a while. I know I do. Also, have him build two tables about the same size right next to each other so people can transfer from the lip of one to the landing of the other. Thats something that not enough parks have.
Sep 8 2002 10:48PM
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JayDC7
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flow is also very important in a park, dont make the jumps/rails to close or too far from each other. nice landings are always a plus also.. landing flat sucks
Sep 8 2002 10:54PM
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mmm4twintips
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i like the jumps at mammoth and to me it seems like they have steeper more vert takeoffs than other places but they get you high and pop you.

the landings on the other hand are perfect thats what makes there park so nice the landings match the takeoffs.

that is real important.
you have to take a lot into consideration when building a jump.
how much speed u will have which is based on the steep of the hill the vert of the jump and how far the person will go.

Mammoth seems to have long landings that are mellow and long while still being steep.

A lot of that has to do with how much snow u have.
It seems to me the higher up the jump is built up the better you can mak the landing.
If you lack snow i would use the natural slope of the hill to help with the landing.

Thats just what i have noticed skiing about 7 different places with different conditions and different parks.
Sep 9 2002 12:03AM
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Jibster720x
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I can understand what u mean by having long landings. Last year me and the boys built what was a hand bmade table by building a jump right before a major roll in the run. just like a table it had a flat top, and a nice landing, but it was too short. occasionally we would over shoot it and that hurts like a bitch.
Sep 15 2002 12:29AM
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