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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this is the mountain's fault. A lot of mountains' faults. I know those Park Smart/PEEPS signs are posted, but they are generally too small and too infrequent to be effective. People aren't going to stop and read fine print, especially if they are a jerry and already know they aren't hitting the big scary features. Mountains need bigger diagrams and more signs placed around that explain park etiquette and safety to people. People should be over exposed to these diagrams at the points of purchasing tickets and getting on lifts that service parks, not just at the entrance to parks. For example, the lift line for Woodward Express should look like a highway full of billboards that depict park etiquette, not just say it in small text on one single sign.
Like this image is great, but it's a tiny part of this sign when it should be blown up and get it's own whole sign. People won't read all that text, but if it's impossible to miss a big sign with just that image, they will get the gist.
ReturnToMonkeyI'm gonna go out on a limb and say this is the mountain's fault. A lot of mountains' faults. I know those Park Smart/PEEPS signs are posted, but they are generally too small and too infrequent to be effective. People aren't going to stop and read fine print, especially if they are a jerry and already know they aren't hitting the big scary features. Mountains need bigger diagrams and more signs placed around that explain park etiquette and safety to people. People should be over exposed to these diagrams at the points of purchasing tickets and getting on lifts that service parks, not just at the entrance to parks. For example, the lift line for Woodward Express should look like a highway full of billboards that depict park etiquette, not just say it in small text on one single sign.
my local park when I was younger used to have a person at the entrance to the park to make sure everyone knew the rules of the park before they went in. It made a lot of sense with higher consequence features and keeping jerries out. I also remember there used to be resorts (although I don't remember which ones exactly) with park passes where you had to demonstrate you knew the rules prior to entering. It seemed like overkill at the time especially for a small resort and I understand how improbable it would be in todays age but it makes sense looking back at it
WittyCongmy local park when I was younger used to have a person at the entrance to the park to make sure everyone knew the rules of the park before they went in. It made a lot of sense with higher consequence features and keeping jerries out. I also remember there used to be resorts (although I don't remember which ones exactly) with park passes where you had to demonstrate you knew the rules prior to entering. It seemed like overkill at the time especially for a small resort and I understand how improbable it would be in todays age but it makes sense looking back at it
Yeah when I was getting into park skiing, Winter Park had a similar thing. You'd have to watch a video and take a little quiz to get your Dark Territory pass, letting you into the bigger park. Probably took an extra 30 minutes at most, once a season. Very worth it
ReturnToMonkeyYeah when I was getting into park skiing, Winter Park had a similar thing. You'd have to watch a video and take a little quiz to get your Dark Territory pass, letting you into the bigger park. Probably took an extra 30 minutes at most, once a season. Very worth it
i hear you guys but those used to be kind of common and they were annoying imo
i'm the best skier in the world, i don't want to piss away 30 minutes watching your stupid video every time i want to take a park lap at a new mtn
ikr but if there's one thing i've learned, it's that half of all people are below average intelligence and it's never more obvious than on the ski slope
eheathYou'd think it'd be pretty straight foward, heres a huge jump and a weird mound, probably shouldn't ski over it.
ReturnToMonkeyikr but if there's one thing i've learned, it's that half of all people are below average intelligence and it's never more obvious than on the ski slope
oh yeah, there are so many dumbass people out there. ive seen this kinda thing happen so much and seen soo many close calls. PC used to be bad when the park was on the main mountain, but since its been on its own lift, it happens way less often.
eheathYou'd think it'd be pretty straight foward, heres a huge jump and a weird mound, probably shouldn't ski over it.
Ski resorts & public highways are the two places you’ll see Ivy League graduates both extremely clueless to what’s going on around them and have no idea how to properly act and behave.
ReturnToMonkeyVery true. I don't think it's the best solution. I think plastering more awareness signs everywhere is
plastering signs everywhere isn't going to do shit for people who don't want to read them or know how to read. At some point you need some sort of checkpoint to keep people out who don't belong. it's one thing to be new to the park and learning the features, then there's being a complete space cadet who is only putting themselves and the riders at risk. There's so many videos aside from just this one of people skiing through landings and getting smoked. I don't want to have to assume someone in the park knows the rules, especially when I'm hucking myself off a 30 foot jump
ReturnToMonkeyikr but if there's one thing i've learned, it's that half of all people are below average intelligence and it's never more obvious than on the ski slope
I can tell you've never drove through Jersey City or taken a gender studies class in Vermont
ReturnToMonkeyThat's what I'm saying though, people don't read, so they need big simple pictures that catch the eye and effectively get the point across.
I get your point. I guess what I'm saying is even if you have simple colorful signs, what's stopping that person that wouldn't read them before from not reading them this time? And to that point what about the hoards of toddlers that don't know what those signs mean that think it's fine to roll over lips or congregate in the landings? I get a lot of it falls on the parents but think of how stubborn we were as kids. There needs to be some sort of "checkpoint" or something to hold people accountable for improperly skiing in parks because it is a serious risk for everyone involved. I don't want to have to live with hurting someone on my conscience even if I wasn't technically in the wrong
WittyCongI get your point. I guess what I'm saying is even if you have simple colorful signs, what's stopping that person that wouldn't read them before from not reading them this time? And to that point what about the hoards of toddlers that don't know what those signs mean that think it's fine to roll over lips or congregate in the landings? I get a lot of it falls on the parents but think of how stubborn we were as kids. There needs to be some sort of "checkpoint" or something to hold people accountable for improperly skiing in parks because it is a serious risk for everyone involved. I don't want to have to live with hurting someone on my conscience even if I wasn't technically in the wrong
You're right, a checkpoint would be better. I just dont think it's something mountains would be as likely to implement as it would cost them more money in training and paying an employee position. They evidently are trying to get rid of human positions like that, as seen in RFID tickets and magic carpets replacing ticket scanning and chair bumping employees.
I'm not saying a human checkpoint or something. I guess what I want is accountability. Like some way to hold people accountable for their actions in putting others at risk. That boarder in the video was ok after the fact. So what's stopping him from doing it again besides people flaming him online? Idk it's a huge undertaking to come up with a solution to the problem but if you aren't going to hold people accountable for their actions then it's just going to keep happening .
What about this video? This never should have happened in the first place. But a simple sign wouldn't have prevented this from happening. Plain and simple the kid should have been in the park and that's on the parent. Obviously nobody wants to see their kid hurt but what prevents it from happening again? If that was the landing to any substantial sized jump that kid is dead.
Idk I've just had too many close calls over the years and am fed up with nobody holding the oblivious gapers accountable. Sorry for the rant
ReturnToMonkeyYou're right, a checkpoint would be better. I just dont think it's something mountains would be as likely to implement as it would cost them more money in training and paying an employee position. They evidently are trying to get rid of human positions like that, as seen in RFID tickets and magic carpets replacing ticket scanning and chair bumping employees.
ReturnToMonkeyikr but if there's one thing i've learned, it's that half of all people are below average intelligence and it's never more obvious than on the ski slope
oh it’s way more than half but i appreciate your hope
What ever happened to park safety courses? They might've been a pain in the ass but at least the class filtered out some casuals and taught others basic park etiquette.
Slugger66What ever happened to park safety courses? They might've been a pain in the ass but at least the class filtered out some casuals and taught others basic park etiquette.
a lot of states have includes terrain parks as an inherent risk in their state legislation and therefore the need for the additional course is not needed to protect the resort.
