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Whats dumber, buying rossignol for 560 mil and selling it for 147 mil, or buying rossignol skis?

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dolanslebensraum
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Im trying to find the video of the rossi team rider landing backseat and one of his skis literally exploding into pieces but i cant find it.

is rossi going to go out of business?

i think when kids watch how much more polished evan mceachran and colby stevensons skiing is (riding attack2s) compared to a hall (riding pivots), look(rossi) arent going to have as good a grip on the market as they have now.

Evan and colbys runs are the first 2 in this video.

spark notes: its only a matter of time before a french ski company succumbs to competition from superior german companies.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QXLqxSL8pZ8&persist_app=1&app=m


Mar 14 2020 3:25AM
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MilkPlanet
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I think I had an aneurysm understanding this post. I've never liked Rossi, but their skis along with volkls are popular mostly among racers. I don't think they'll go out of business anytime soon, but they're definitely not dominanting locally here.
Edit: to answer your question, if you buy Rossi skis, you might lose brain cells,, but at least you're not losing 300+ mil.

**This post was edited on Mar 14th 2020 at 4:38:24am
Mar 14 2020 4:36AM
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dolanslebensraum
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elliotfitzgeraldI think I had an aneurysm understanding this post. I've never liked Rossi, but their skis along with volkls are popular mostly among racers. I don't think they'll go out of business anytime soon, but they're definitely not dominanting locally here.
Edit: to answer your question, if you buy Rossi skis, you might lose brain cells,, but at least you're not losing 300+ mil.

**This post was edited on Mar 14th 2020 at 4:38:24am


Haha. Do you know the video im talking about? Some rossi pro digs the back of his ski into the snow on a jumps landing, and the whole ski implodes into like 10 pieces. Im guessing that rossi is paying people off trying to get this video deleted from the internet so they dont go out of business like the french bitches they are.

Candide i still love you.
Mar 14 2020 5:09AM
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clindblomskier
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Evan and Colby being “smoother” than A hall because of their bindings is the dumbest thing I’ve heard. Everyone without a binding sponsor uses Pivots for a reason so quit trashing on look
Mar 14 2020 8:34AM
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tae_asling_
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Is this it?
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/958331/trim-96D81F83-FC89-486F-8EFD-4FCDF5F72A13-MOV
Mar 14 2020 9:17AM
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Julius_Steezer
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tae_asling_Is this it?
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/958331/trim-96D81F83-FC89-486F-8EFD-4FCDF5F72A13-MOV


Firstly those are faction skis I think and secondly those bindings seem ok so not sure that’s the video

thirdly and far more importantly, hoooooly shit that shifty was greasy af
Mar 14 2020 10:14AM
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plugs
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Julius_SteezerFirstly those are faction skis I think and secondly those bindings seem ok so not sure that’s the video

thirdly and far more importantly, hoooooly shit that shifty was greasy af


Those are 110% 2019 rossignol scratches and I know a guy who did the exact same thing to his
Mar 14 2020 1:26PM
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rubberpantaloons
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Stop hating on pivots tryna justify your shitty binding choice lmao, theres a reason anyone without a binding sponsor rides pivots lmfao
Mar 14 2020 6:12PM
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sindreplassen
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pwhite and c-lo ride rossignols
Mar 14 2020 7:37PM
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CatdickBojangles
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air.bubbleStop hating on pivots tryna justify your shitty binding choice lmao, theres a reason anyone without a binding sponsor rides pivots lmfao


That’s the exact thing I was thinking. Someone’s got buyers remorse from buying attacks and has to hate on pivots. Rossi is part of the explosion of free skiing. They used to sponsor so many guys in the park. And they used to make super dope skis and still do. They just went the way of salmon and moved to where the money is.
Mar 14 2020 9:01PM
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dolanslebensraum
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clindblomskierEvan and Colby being “smoother” than A hall because of their bindings is the dumbest thing I’ve heard. Everyone without a binding sponsor uses Pivots for a reason so quit trashing on look


I just noticed that they look like they are just standing on their skis compared to other competitors riding bindings with a higher heel stack height than toe stack height. Maybe its the boots or something idk. But it looked to me like evan and colby had the most effortless looking style that day and the common denominator was their attack2 bindings. Idk.

**This post was edited on Mar 15th 2020 at 12:03:30am
Mar 14 2020 11:36PM
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dolanslebensraum
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tae_asling_Is this it?
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/958331/trim-96D81F83-FC89-486F-8EFD-4FCDF5F72A13-MOV

Yeah thank you. Pretty unbelievable for a ski to fail that catastrophically just from too much tail pressure. Thats horrible even by french engineering standards.
Mar 14 2020 11:38PM
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dolanslebensraum
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MortbrokemyskisThose are 110% 2019 rossignol scratches and I know a guy who did the exact same thing to his

Haha damn thats hilarious. Ive been trying to find an instrument to short rossignol, because to me this video is a millstone around their necks.
Mar 14 2020 11:43PM
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dolanslebensraum
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CatdickBojanglesThat’s the exact thing I was thinking. Someone’s got buyers remorse from buying attacks and has to hate on pivots. Rossi is part of the explosion of free skiing. They used to sponsor so many guys in the park. And they used to make super dope skis and still do. They just went the way of salmon and moved to where the money is.

Haha you got it man. Im so upset i didnt buy a binding that wiggles around all the time from minor torques put on it. Also i wish i had a heel piece that was as secure and robust as the pivot has. The pivot heel is obviously so bulletproof engineered that it would never have any sort of problem or safety issue!

oh wait, what is this...







You go ahead and keep having fun swimming around in your mushy look pivots.

trusting french engineers and being a fucking tool are basically the same thing.
Mar 14 2020 11:55PM
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rubberpantaloons
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DolanReloadedHaha you got it man. Im so upset i didnt buy a binding that wiggles around all the time from minor torques put on it. Also i wish i had a heel piece that was as secure and robust as the pivot has. The pivot heel is obviously so bulletproof engineered that it would never have any sort of problem or safety issue!

oh wait, what is this...







You go ahead and keep having fun swimming around in your mushy look pivots.

trusting french engineers and being a fucking tool are basically the same thing.

Have fun tearing your acl when your tyrolias half ejects on a slightly backseat landing. Look pivots ski the same as tyrolias, ive had both, better idea to spend an extra 50$ for reliable bindings that wont shit themselves tryna land switch. Also the stack height difference between attacks and pivots is 1mm lmfao, there isnt even a higher heel piece on pivots.
Mar 15 2020 1:12AM
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dolanslebensraum
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air.bubbleHave fun tearing your acl when your tyrolias half ejects on a slightly backseat landing. Look pivots ski the same as tyrolias, ive had both, better idea to spend an extra 50$ for reliable bindings that wont shit themselves tryna land switch. Also the stack height difference between attacks and pivots is 1mm lmfao, there isnt even a higher heel piece on pivots.


Meh. Alex hall seems to pussyfoot his way through the park because he has to coax the wobbly heel pivot to move the way he wants it to, while people like evan mceachran and colby stevenson look like they have a much more solid connection with the snow because the stack height is short and flat and the toe and heel are rock solid secure.

Idk maybe i overanalyze things...
Mar 15 2020 10:47PM
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DominatorJacques
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Love me some old Rossi's! Made in France!
I work these puppies and still do!


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/866745/Dominator-Jacques-Skis-April-22nd-2017
Mar 15 2020 11:05PM
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rubberpantaloons
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DolanReloadedMeh. Alex hall seems to pussyfoot his way through the park because he has to coax the wobbly heel pivot to move the way he wants it to, while people like evan mceachran and colby stevenson look like they have a much more solid connection with the snow because the stack height is short and flat and the toe and heel are rock solid secure.

Idk maybe i overanalyze things...


????? alex hall and henrik harlaut are some of the best skiers in the world and they both ride pivots, if you actually skied you would see at your local hill that the locals ripping the hardest are most likely on pivots if they arent sponsored by a binding company. ask anyone who has skied both pivots and attacks, if you think that a 1/32 of a millimeter of play in a heel piece will change the way you ski then you seriously have something wrong in your head
Mar 15 2020 11:06PM
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DominatorJacques
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Then again, any ski can be broken. Rossi's


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/808384/-quot-Taylor-The-Barbarian-quot--Destroys-Another-Ski-at-Bachelor-Parks--Jan-20th-2013
Mar 15 2020 11:08PM
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evaroni
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THIS is the type of thread NS was founded on. Loving it fellas!
Mar 15 2020 11:11PM
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DominatorJacques
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That ski was already damaged. This was just the last straw.
tae_asling_Is this it?
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/958331/trim-96D81F83-FC89-486F-8EFD-4FCDF5F72A13-MOV
Mar 15 2020 11:11PM
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animator
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DolanReloadedIm trying to find the video of the rossi team rider landing backseat and one of his skis literally exploding into pieces but i cant find it.

is rossi going to go out of business?

i think when kids watch how much more polished evan mceachran and colby stevensons skiing is (riding attack2s) compared to a hall (riding pivots), look(rossi) arent going to have as good a grip on the market as they have now.

Evan and colbys runs are the first 2 in this video.

spark notes: its only a matter of time before a french ski company succumbs to competition from superior german companies.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QXLqxSL8pZ8&persist_app=1&app=m



Dude stop making every single post about fucking Attack 2s, no one gives a shit if more pros ride them or not. You aren’t convincing anyone that attacks are better, everyone has their preference so just keeps yours to yourself

**This post was edited on Mar 16th 2020 at 11:00:57am
Mar 16 2020 10:58AM
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animator
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And the fact that you associate someone’s skiing style to the bindings that they ride is mind numbing to me. Harlaut, AHall, Clayton Vila, Cam Riley, Tatum Monod and countless others ride Pivots. Maybe you’re out of the loop but Clayton and Cam were 2 of the smoothest skiers in the game for years and years, and I don’t think it had anything to do with the bindings they were skiing. How about Candide, Tom Wallisch, Quinn Wolferman who all ride Markers? 3 of the smoothest skiers I know. Again, nothing to do with the bindings that they ride. We get it, you love your attacks. That’s awesome for you, I’m genuinely happy that you love your bindings. Anything that gets people out skiing is cool with me. But stop trying to associate sales and reliability with what professionals ride. They ride what they’re paid to ride. There are a lot of options out there and people should be free to make their choice without anyone shoving other options down their throat.
Mar 16 2020 11:07AM
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Ghost_BLandzV2
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DolanReloadedYou go ahead and keep having fun swimming around in your mushy look pivots.

trusting french engineers and being a fucking tool are basically the same thing.


Ya know what man ur right. Fuck those dumb french engineers. Matter of fact, fuck everybody who is or ever has been french. Their engineers are nowhere near as smart as the german or american ones.

Good call dude, very eye opening
Mar 16 2020 1:59PM
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hoodratz47
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I have loved Rossi's for a long long time. Tough as fuck
Mar 16 2020 2:09PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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BLandzYa know what man ur right. Fuck those dumb french engineers. Matter of fact, fuck everybody who is or ever has been french. Their engineers are nowhere near as smart as the german or american ones.

Good call dude, very eye opening


French Engineers: Le Pivot
Mar 16 2020 2:22PM
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dolanslebensraum
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Good lord the jimmies are getting demolished in this thread.
Mar 16 2020 2:22PM
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dolanslebensraum
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air.bubble????? alex hall and henrik harlaut are some of the best skiers in the world and they both ride pivots, if you actually skied you would see at your local hill that the locals ripping the hardest are most likely on pivots if they arent sponsored by a binding company. ask anyone who has skied both pivots and attacks, if you think that a 1/32 of a millimeter of play in a heel piece will change the way you ski then you seriously have something wrong in your head


I used to ride pivots. I didnt like the mushy/soft feel in the heel assembly. I used to convince myself it was better, but when i got back on non pivot bindings i was like “why tf did i abandon you poor bastards”
Mar 16 2020 2:30PM
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dolanslebensraum
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DominatorJacquesThat ski was already damaged. This was just the last straw.

Damaged by what? Skiing on it?
either way this video is a cataclysm for rossi and i wouldnt be surprised if that whole group went under
Mar 16 2020 2:40PM
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ReturnToMonkey
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FTFY
DolanReloadedGood lord the attacks are getting demolished in this thread.
Mar 16 2020 2:54PM
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DominatorJacques
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DolanReloadedDamaged by what? Skiing on it?
either way this video is a cataclysm for rossi and i wouldnt be surprised if that whole group went under

Yes, the ski was already damaged from skiing, or being run over by a car or whatever.
It did not just come apart from that one jump.
Rossi, ain't going away.
Like I said, any ski can be broken.
Mar 16 2020 3:50PM
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clorox
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I fucking love my pivot 18's. I used two different sets of jester pros and hated them. The high stack height is great if you're racing and care about edge angle for carving, but if you like having edge to edge maneuverability, (swaps on rails/sticking landings/skiing bumps etc) any binding with a lower stack height is the way to go.

I have two pairs of pivots; an orange pair of Rossi FKS 180's that I bought in 2016 with zero issues since, and a pair of black P18's that I bought at the beginning of the season, also with ZERO ISSUES. Never felt safer in a binding than pivots, not to mention that the ski is able to flex naturally under the binding. With markers, the same skis just felt dead.

Can't speak for the skis, as my last and only pair was of Rossis were bump skis from 15 years ago, but those things did in fact rip.
Mar 16 2020 3:52PM
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Idahoe
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Dude even boots have a bigger deal to do with skiing ability than bindings.

Also what? personal style and ability has so much more to do with how solid u look than any equipment u use
Mar 16 2020 5:26PM
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DominatorJacques
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Look boys, it's like this. Pivot's need to be adjusted to BSL perfectly and not too many know how to do that.
If not, and they are a tiny bit too loose, you will feel the heel move around too easily.

Also, just the other day I saw a pair where the steel ring had broken! So I think some may have some issues.
I have not looked into that issue, but it may be a recall. Anyone know?
Mar 16 2020 6:43PM
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ReturnToMonkey
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DominatorJacquesLook boys, it's like this. Pivot's need to be adjusted to BSL perfectly and not too many know how to do that.
If not, and they are a tiny bit too loose, you will feel the heel move around too easily.

Also, just the other day I saw a pair where the steel ring had broken! So I think some may have some issues.
I have not looked into that issue, but it may be a recall. Anyone know?


This. Nothing is perfect
Mar 16 2020 7:22PM
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DominatorJacques
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ConesForBreakfastThis. Nothing is perfect

Exactly! There are no indestructible skis! Some bindings get recalled. Some don't, but fail anyway.
Mar 16 2020 8:18PM
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CalumSKI
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What's more dumb?
This thread or dolans english capability?
Mar 16 2020 8:37PM
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Deepskier
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Ive skied rossis and pivots for years, sure I break them but I break on3ps and even other brand ive used too. I love rossis graphics, shapes, sizes, dampness and everything about thier stuff. at the end of the day it deffinetly isnt going anywhere so ill ride on them and you can ridde something else.... cool
Mar 17 2020 4:35PM
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ReturnToMonkey
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My boots are Rossis and I love them. Comfortable in the park, stable in the steeps
Mar 17 2020 5:08PM
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lip2sRscary
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I lost braincells reading this.
Mar 17 2020 5:43PM
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dolanslebensraum
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Fair enough guys. Maybe i put too much emphasis on bindings but i always seem to be able to feel a significant difference when i switch from one binding to another.
Mar 17 2020 6:02PM
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lip2sRscary
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DolanReloadedFair enough guys. Maybe i put too much emphasis on bindings but i always seem to be able to feel a significant difference when i switch from one binding to another.


quit skiing, start rollerblading
Mar 17 2020 6:36PM
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dolanslebensraum
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lip2sRscaryquit skiing, start rollerblading

I used to blade at the skatepark pretty often but nowadays i just hop around the street on my skateboard.

**This post was edited on Mar 17th 2020 at 7:16:44pm
Mar 17 2020 6:57PM
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ReturnToMonkey
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DolanReloadedFair enough guys. Maybe i put too much emphasis on bindings but i always seem to be able to feel a significant difference when i switch from one binding to another.

Its gotta be how they mount them with your boot
Mar 17 2020 7:54PM
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skiguy04
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lip2sRscaryquit skiing, start rollerblading


Both of you start rollerblading
Mar 17 2020 9:29PM
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dolanslebensraum
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evaroniTHIS is the type of thread NS was founded on. Loving it fellas!

Tanks goobi
Mar 18 2020 12:22AM
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Young_patty
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Ok but Blops and Pivots smack???
Mar 19 2020 1:31PM
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dolanslebensraum
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Jesus if ski brands were publicly traded companies id be ready to retire after like 5 years of doing what i do anyways...
Apr 6 2020 3:27AM
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little1337
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DolanReloadedHaha you got it man. Im so upset i didnt buy a binding that wiggles around all the time from minor torques put on it. Also i wish i had a heel piece that was as secure and robust as the pivot has. The pivot heel is obviously so bulletproof engineered that it would never have any sort of problem or safety issue!

oh wait, what is this...







You go ahead and keep having fun swimming around in your mushy look pivots.

trusting french engineers and being a fucking tool are basically the same thing.


I've had the same pivots for like 5 years and I've never had an issue with them loosening or me coming out of them prematurely. Maybe my pair are bulletproof but I've only heard good things about them and never heard of someone having a problem with them
Apr 6 2020 8:46AM
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dolanslebensraum
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little1337I've had the same pivots for like 5 years and I've never had an issue with them loosening or me coming out of them prematurely. Maybe my pair are bulletproof but I've only heard good things about them and never heard of someone having a problem with them

All good man. Its just my theory that too much flexibility in the heel might not be optimal for every skier.



im probably a little biased about the rear support links on pivots because they look flimsy and frail. I dont know why they didnt at least make them look sleek. Other than that looks look pretty cool.
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