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VISHNUthinking about making a slightly stiffer version of the Wet, particularly in the tails, for people that are concerned about stability on jumps but don't want wides. Wet Plus perhaps? We'll see.
any chance you would ever make a non symmetrical ski? If would cop wides for sure if they were shaped more like the blend/soul rider
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I'm confused. I was making a joke about how vishnu and dps use the same factory and are engineered by the same guy? Why did you change the link in the quote to a moment ski?
pinkcamo1000I'm confused. I was making a joke about how vishnu and dps use the same factory and are engineered by the same guy? Why did you change the link in the quote to a moment ski?
Oh I had no idea, I thought you were saying I should get DPS’s. Strictly moments for me.
pinkcamo1000any chance you would ever make a non symmetrical ski? If would cop wides for sure if they were shaped more like the blend/soul rider
It’s definitely been considered, if it were to happen it would be a slightly fat park ski with a progressive flex (stiffer tails softer nose) to cater to more traditional park skiers, something in the same family as the Alpha 1, at least sidecut/shape wise.
For now though we haven’t even really rolled out the Wide fully so we are focused on that for next year. One thing at a time.
Was one of the TGR posters that was pondering ordering a custom non tour 108 Wildcat. Mentioned it on TGR and then there was a discussion on how to tweak construction on that regular layup 108 Wildcat to make it even a little heavier then the current 116/118 Wildcat is so it would charge a bit harder in crud etc.
Was lots of interest and were talks of a buy group.
Moment responded on that thread that they “were going to make some prototypes up” to try some things but haven’t heard anything since.
Hope it becomes a stock item and think it will be a great seller for them.
Greg_KWas one of the TGR posters that was pondering ordering a custom non tour 108 Wildcat. Mentioned it on TGR and then there was a discussion on how to tweak construction on that regular layup 108 Wildcat to make it even a little heavier then the current 116/118 Wildcat is so it would charge a bit harder in crud etc.
Was lots of interest and were talks of a buy group.
Moment responded on that thread that they “were going to make some prototypes up” to try some things but haven’t heard anything since.
Hope it becomes a stock item and think it will be a great seller for them.
Currently building a stock Wildcat 108 for testing.
VISHNUthinking about making a slightly stiffer version of the Wet, particularly in the tails, for people that are concerned about stability on jumps but don't want wides. Wet Plus perhaps? We'll see.
camber in the tails would be dope, might add some stability without needing to stiffen it up too much
Edit: I agree with the homie who said a 188 length. Something in that range would be dope for a bit of added stability for us tall bois while keeping the flexy tip/tails for butters and shit
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RIP Wallet. RE the Wildcat 108, basically just a mini Wildcat 118, with a damper core? Same flex? Sidecut? Any weight numbers floating around? That vs a Comander 108/ Wildcat vs Commander 118? New line looks way too sick, graphics are top notch as always.
Carl_the_LlamaRIP Wallet. RE the Wildcat 108, basically just a mini Wildcat 118, with a damper core? Same flex? Sidecut? Any weight numbers floating around? That vs a Comander 108/ Wildcat vs Commander 118? New line looks way too sick, graphics are top notch as always.
It will have the same shape as the Wildcat Tour 108, so the sidecut gets slightly tighter (25m) when compared to the 118 Wildcat 190 (27m). Flex profile is still in the works, but will be similar to the Wildcat 118. Weight numbers will be (best guess) around 9ish lbs but could change after all the final tweaks are made.
Commander line is also getting slight updates, a second arc in the tip rocker gives just a little more tip splay for blasting through crud and the tail rise gets knocked down ever so slightly. Commander 118 is still being tweaked and tested, but the initial results are looking good. Personally, I finally jumped on the 118 Commander 188 while skiing with Tyler Curle in some slightly slushy Tahoe sun baked snow and had to give them back after two runs, got a little scared with how fast I was able to go.
Additionally, the Commander 98, 108 and 118 all have two sheets of metal per ski, but the 124 does not. It's more playful and kind of it's own ski as we designed it in conjunction with Third Edge Heli to replace the Comi. We will be offering the 108, 118 and 124 Commander in a 194 length as well.
hot.pocketIt will have the same shape as the Wildcat Tour 108, so the sidecut gets slightly tighter (25m) when compared to the 118 Wildcat 190 (27m). Flex profile is still in the works, but will be similar to the Wildcat 118. Weight numbers will be (best guess) around 9ish lbs but could change after all the final tweaks are made.
Commander line is also getting slight updates, a second arc in the tip rocker gives just a little more tip splay for blasting through crud and the tail rise gets knocked down ever so slightly. Commander 118 is still being tweaked and tested, but the initial results are looking good. Personally, I finally jumped on the 118 Commander 188 while skiing with Tyler Curle in some slightly slushy Tahoe sun baked snow and had to give them back after two runs, got a little scared with how fast I was able to go.
Additionally, the Commander 98, 108 and 118 all have two sheets of metal per ski, but the 124 does not. It's more playful and kind of it's own ski as we designed it in conjunction with Third Edge Heli to replace the Comi. We will be offering the 108, 118 and 124 Commander in a 194 length as well.
That all honestly sounds wicked, went up the chair with Tyler in Revy and he was on the 118s, looked super sick. Gonna be a hard decision for next season I think.
hot.pocketIt will have the same shape as the Wildcat Tour 108, so the sidecut gets slightly tighter (25m) when compared to the 118 Wildcat 190 (27m). Flex profile is still in the works, but will be similar to the Wildcat 118. Weight numbers will be (best guess) around 9ish lbs but could change after all the final tweaks are made.
Commander line is also getting slight updates, a second arc in the tip rocker gives just a little more tip splay for blasting through crud and the tail rise gets knocked down ever so slightly. Commander 118 is still being tweaked and tested, but the initial results are looking good. Personally, I finally jumped on the 118 Commander 188 while skiing with Tyler Curle in some slightly slushy Tahoe sun baked snow and had to give them back after two runs, got a little scared with how fast I was able to go.
Additionally, the Commander 98, 108 and 118 all have two sheets of metal per ski, but the 124 does not. It's more playful and kind of it's own ski as we designed it in conjunction with Third Edge Heli to replace the Comi. We will be offering the 108, 118 and 124 Commander in a 194 length as well.
Go as heavy as you can on the 108s!!! 2100-2200g/ski in the 184 would be killer!
VISHNUIt’s definitely been considered, if it were to happen it would be a slightly fat park ski with a progressive flex (stiffer tails softer nose) to cater to more traditional park skiers, something in the same family as the Alpha 1, at least sidecut/shape wise.
For now though we haven’t even really rolled out the Wide fully so we are focused on that for next year. One thing at a time.
Very excited about this (-4 cm mount!), and the Black Crows Ferox Freebird and Moment Wildcat Tour 108. Companies seem to finally be taking note of more playful skiers who still want to do some bigger tours.
patagonialukeVery excited about this (-4 cm mount!), and the Black Crows Ferox Freebird and Moment Wildcat Tour 108. Companies seem to finally be taking note of more playful skiers who still want to do some bigger tours.
Do you think you'll get to try the Vision and Ferox soon?
